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So hypothetically, if Putin were to travel abroad to non-curbstombed vassal state or likeminded dictatorship, would he be wanted criminal or head of state with diplomatic immunity? Russia isn't ICC member so they won't be giving a gently caress even after Putin retires or "retires" to live in the farm upstate.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:07
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CommieGIR posted:No they really don't have to be that close at the height they fly to peek into Crimea. They have some good optics and many of them carry Synthetic Aperture Radar with crazy ranges. On one of the forte flights a Russian plane pointed toward its flight path. They steered forte away long before the plane got anywhere close. It seems like they're much more protective of those than their reapers. (This isn't really a response to your post, you're correct about its crazy range)
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Mar 17, 2023 18:08
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Der Kyhe posted:So hypothetically, if Putin were to travel abroad to non-curbstombed vassal state or likeminded dictatorship, would he be wanted criminal or head of state with diplomatic immunity? In theory he would have diplomatic immunity.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:10
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Butterfly Valley posted:??? It's supremely defensible, given the only route in is the 5km narrow Perekop isthmus, unless they want to make an extremely risky attempt at crossing the Syvash marshlands. Every assault has resulted in disproportionately high casualties for the attacking force. It would be reverse Bakhmut. Makes much more sense to get to the post-2014 border and blow the poo poo out of the Kerch bridge and just wait, although if/when that happens it's going to result in some extremely distressing humanitarian consequences. Didn't stop anyone in WW2. The whole area is poorly defensible, except the southern part with the mountains.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:12
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This may be controversial, I don't know. But personally I think kidnapping children is bad.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:14
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beer_war posted:This may be controversial, I don't know. But personally I think kidnapping children is bad. the "war bad" people would disagree
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Mar 17, 2023 18:20
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Telsa Cola posted:In theory he would have diplomatic immunity. Not for acts in violation of jus cogens. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Bow_Street_Metropolitan_Stipendiary_Magistrate,_ex_parte_Pinochet Certain crimes are considered a violation of peremptory norms, including crimes against humanity, slavery, piracy, etc and it is quite possible if put in the dock at the Hague he would be found not to have head of state immunity
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Mar 17, 2023 18:30
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Cthulu Carl posted:Which brigade do you think with have the most Weedlord Bonerhitlers signed up? Probably the 420th brigade of the 69th division.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:31
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Cthulu Carl posted:Which brigade do you think with have the most Weedlord Bonerhitlers signed up? 
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Mar 17, 2023 18:32
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Behold! The teef of the dargon https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1636773866042277905
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Mar 17, 2023 18:37
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1636774014038294545
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Mar 17, 2023 18:38
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I should point out that violations of such peremptory norms of international law are crimes of *universal* jurisdiction. And that any treaty clause in violation of jus cogens is invalid.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:52
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Rust Martialis posted:I should point out that violations of such peremptory norms of international law are crimes of *universal* jurisdiction. And that any treaty clause in violation of jus cogens is invalid. I have absolutely zero idea, it may be yesterday, so this isnt a gotcha, but whens the last time we actually applied/arrested someone like that.
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Mar 17, 2023 18:54
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Der Kyhe posted:So hypothetically, if Putin were to travel abroad to non-curbstombed vassal state or likeminded dictatorship, would he be wanted criminal or head of state with diplomatic immunity? I could be wrong here but any state signed up to ICC has an obligation to hand people over. Russia (as are China and India) is not part of the ICC so doesn't have to but if he landed in Brazil, he can be nabbed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court#/media/File:ICC_member_states.svg Green - ICC Yellow - Waiting to join Orange and Red - Not in ICC
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Mar 17, 2023 18:58
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Tai posted:I could be wrong here but any state signed up to ICC has an obligation to hand people over. Russia (as are China and India) is not part of the ICC so doesn't have to but if he landed in Brazil, he can be nabbed. Why is America...oh...
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Mar 17, 2023 18:59
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Telsa Cola posted:I have absolutely zero idea, it may be yesterday, so this isnt a gotcha, but whens the last time we actually applied/arrested someone like that. Hence, my question.  If Putin shows up uninvited for an event in ICC country, or for any reason has to land on one, is he going to take off next time on a prison transport, or his Blyat Horse 1?
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Mar 17, 2023 19:00
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Telsa Cola posted:I have absolutely zero idea, it may be yesterday, so this isnt a gotcha, but whens the last time we actually applied/arrested someone like that. Seriously though I do like that they chose that for the indictment because, well, all their war crimes are indefensible obviously, but since that is the most overtly genocidal it is a good place to start, especially as they are following the Republican approach of openly admitting the crimes and just saying it is no big deal Also like, Finland going from somewhat tolerating Russia to becoming NATO's longest border with Russia by far is going to be pretty intense huh
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Mar 17, 2023 19:01
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Send Dog the Bounty Hunter after Putin it's the only way
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Mar 17, 2023 19:05
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Lmao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court#Jurisdiction_and_admissibility Scroll down to the various criteria needed for genocide, war crimes or crimes against humanity. putin and friends are ticking off gently caress loads
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Mar 17, 2023 19:07
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Dr. Quarex posted:Also like, Finland going from somewhat tolerating Russia to becoming NATO's longest border with Russia by far is going to be pretty intense huh It cannot be emphasized how much everyone in Finland wanted Russia to just stop acting like a pill-popping maniac of a neighbor and become normal country with normal relations. And then all that went to shitcan when Putin decided to go full lunatic with his wars of imperial expansion and all hope for small development here and there towards normal relations from the last 30 years just died overnight. You can see in the NATO support polls where the Finns collectively gave up and bitterly decided to stop internally excusing the Russia's hostile foreign politics that always were there, we just didn't want to see them.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:10
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Roblo posted:Why is America...oh... I think its the same reason the USA abides by a lot of treaties but hasn't ratified them: a bunch of dipshit senators/congressmen refuse to agree to any international cooperation and AMERICA FIRST idiots agree.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:10
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if ghaddafi was ghaddafied what's it gonna be called for putin
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Mar 17, 2023 19:13
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Pekinduck posted:I think its the same reason the USA abides by a lot of treaties but hasn't ratified them: a bunch of dipshit senators/congressmen refuse to agree to any international cooperation and AMERICA FIRST idiots agree. It's mainly cuz the US would be sending a bunch of 'MURICAN military officers to stand trial at the Hague and that doesn't sit well with the military for obvious reasons
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Mar 17, 2023 19:13
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alcatraz gently caress boy posted:if ghaddafi was ghaddafied what's it gonna be called for putin all the gas released would kill everyone in the room
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Mar 17, 2023 19:15
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free hubcaps posted:It's mainly cuz the US would be sending a bunch of 'MURICAN military officers to stand trial at the Hague and that doesn't sit well with the military for obvious reasons They'd have to actually investigate and dish out real sentences to their troops that do hosed up stuff overseas, instead for example finding that it was in fact the Italian ski-lift's cable that attacked that airplane which was totally cruising on the correct heading and altitude all the time. And definitely not the meathead hooraah Marine aviation idiots playing around while on patrol flight.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:18
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free hubcaps posted:It's mainly cuz the US would be sending a bunch of 'MURICAN military officers to stand trial at the Hague and that doesn't sit well with the military for obvious reasons Ah, yeah. The pentagon is refusing to turn over evidence of Russian war crimes for the same reason. FFS we can stand to lose a few Iraq warcrimes special forces.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:19
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1636768534058663936
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Mar 17, 2023 19:22
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Blair and co didn't get yoinked so I think the Pentagon doesn't need to worry that much.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:22
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No, literally, there is no one else
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Mar 17, 2023 19:22
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alcatraz gently caress boy posted:if ghaddafi was ghaddafied what's it gonna be called for putin If he was the captain of a ship, it could be called a putiny! 
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Mar 17, 2023 19:23
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lol'n that part of modern war is literal shitposting about your enemy and making fun of their defenses on twitter if only in WW2 you had individual soldiers all talking over shared radio bands calling each other 'dumb bitches' ect.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:27
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Strategic Tea posted:No, literally, there is no one else Well they gotta hurry up if they're gonna send any of em, given that Crybar said last September half the VDV were already out of the fight. Probably closer to 75% as on date. zone fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 17, 2023 |
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Mar 17, 2023 19:29
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Captain Beans posted:lol'n that part of modern war is literal shitposting about your enemy and making fun of their defenses on twitter Back in the day they had to hire a guy with a loudspeaker to make fun of the other side's defenses from within earshot, now we live in much more civilised times
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Mar 17, 2023 19:30
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"This is outrageous but also it doesn't matter" sums up so much of Russia's attitudes towards foreign relations
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Mar 17, 2023 19:31
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Captain Beans posted:lol'n that part of modern war is literal shitposting about your enemy and making fun of their defenses on twitter i know not what cyberwar 1.0 will be fought with but i know that cyberwar 2.0 will be fought with racial slurs and pictures of gaping anuses
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Mar 17, 2023 19:32
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Captain Beans posted:lol'n that part of modern war is literal shitposting about your enemy and making fun of their defenses on twitter Well the guys making fun of the defenses in Zaporizhzhia were Rusich (neonazi mercenary group working for Russia) so it's more the guys nominally on Russia's side criticizing how the "defenses" were built.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:35
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alcatraz gently caress boy posted:if ghaddafi was ghaddafied what's it gonna be called for putin Packt like sardines in a putin box.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:35
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One year in, I didn't expect to see news of Russia poorly fortifying Crimea against a Ukrainian counter-assault. Also, a year ago, "cope Toblerone" wouldn't have registered in my brain, but now I can't stop thinking about it.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:36
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LordoftheScheisse posted:One year in, I didn't expect to see news of Russia poorly fortifying Crimea against a Ukrainian counter-assault. Also, a year ago, "cope Toblerone" wouldn't have registered in my brain, but now I can't stop thinking about it. Yeah, at this point its probably telling, they think Ukraine might actually have a chance to push back or they wouldn't even bother. Maybe not to Crimea itself, but its a good sign they are not sure of their defenses on the mainland.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:37
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1636796841898708992 Putler's throwing a tantrum about being given the status of a common criminal.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:39
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