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16-bit Butt-Head posted:terminator resistance isnt a horror game but its really good and people should play it It is by no means really good. Good atmosphere, yes. But it plays like poo poo.
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Mar 21, 2023 17:53
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New dark descent trailer with gameplay https://youtu.be/YilVs3-B42k
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FastestGunAlive posted:New dark descent trailer with gameplay https://youtu.be/YilVs3-B42k I'm getting a bit of a 'we made Republic Commando into a top-down RPG' vibe. e: okay I have a strong suspicion there isn't much game there. This is going to be a Fireteam style 'play through once for the story and a reasonably fun experience and then never touch again' thing. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Mar 21, 2023 |
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:terminator resistance isnt a horror game but its really good and people should play it I do recall the older Terminator FPS(s? I think there were two good ones) being pretty good and atmospheric, Future Shock I think was the one I liked the most.
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Alchenar posted:I'm getting a bit of a 'we made Republic Commando into a top-down RPG' vibe.
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McGann posted:I do recall the older Terminator FPS(s? I think there were two good ones) being pretty good and atmospheric, Future Shock I think was the one I liked the most. There’s also some more obscure early ones but the games you’re thinking of are Future Shock and its sequel Skynet. I thought Skynet was regarded as being better but I’ve only played the demo of Future Shock and that was close to a quarter century ago.
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Payndz posted:Still, better than loss.xno. I was going to make the exact same joke. MacheteZombie posted:personally I like all the stupid poo poo that makes up the alien verse Space Jam posted:Gauging interest here. I’ve been thinking about hosting an AvP 2 multiplayer night. If you don’t have the game I could provide it… perfectly legally. I should still have both install discs in storage. Yay or Nay? I’d be down, but I think we might have more success with AvPClassic or AvP2010. SPEAKING OF WHICH, since they’re both on sale on Steam I will buy a copy of either game (your choice) for the next five people who speak up and/or PM me. You aren’t even obligated to play it (although I’d really prefer if you did, I’d like to buy the game for people who are going to play it). Hell I’ll buy a copy of Alien Isolation (and the season pass) for one lucky claimant too. That’s 6 games going out, one game per recipient. Speak up soon, the sale ends in like 22 hours. FilthyImp posted:Sorry, the superior Alien based game is clearly 16-bit Butt-Head posted:lol the alien AI in colonial marines is broken because of a single typo in an ini file that you fix yourself There’s a fan mod that fixes (and improves!) the AI for everything, redoes a lot of the textures, and largely brings the game up to a surprisingly playable state. Like we’re still talking a C-grade game here, but it’s not a dumpster fire. Doesn’t fix the plot though lol. It still has one of the best cinematic trailers ever made: https://youtu.be/Z8eE4PvvFtg The trailers for that game’s multiplayer modes were great too. https://youtu.be/Q7UBQouJBns https://youtu.be/VmnU3_hzqsM Timby posted:It is by no means really good. I really liked Resistance, I thought it did a fantastic job of conveying the scavenging hopeless bombed-out wasteland of 2029 and the gradual escalation of your competency is great - you go from absolutely fearing endoskeletons and HKs to being able to reliably take them down. Fights with T-800 infiltrators were great too, and I loved the localized damage where you can blow parts of their flesh off. The final battle was a fantastic capstone when you do the all-out assault on Skynet, too. McGann posted:I do recall the older Terminator FPS(s? I think there were two good ones) being pretty good and atmospheric, Future Shock I think was the one I liked the most. Resistance very much felt like a spiritual successor to Future Shock. Speaking of Terminator, there’s a recent tabletop RPG - it’s published by a different company than the Alien one, but it’s all written by the same guy who wrote the Alien one (Andrew Gaska) and includes some cute nods to “expanded universe” stuff. I don’t remember if it has any Future Shock stuff in it.
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Xenomrph posted:Speaking of Terminator, there’s a recent tabletop RPG - it’s published by a different company than the Alien one, but it’s all written by the same guy who wrote the Alien one (Andrew Gaska) and includes some cute nods to “expanded universe” stuff. I don’t remember if it has any Future Shock stuff in it. I don't think it does just because IIRC it had this very very specific promotional blurb like the official RPG based on the film The Terminator and all Terminator Dark Horse comics or somethibg like that. I think because Marvel still has some weird rights to comics based on Terminator 2 specifically or something like that. I had no idea Alien RPG peeps were involved in the writing, I'll have to get it. Future Shock was sooooo loving good, I loved that game. Kind of clunky today but still worth trying to see what they were attempting back then. Exploring the indoor areas was so cool with thise soundtracks too.
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Neo Rasa posted:I don't think it does just because IIRC it had this very very specific promotional blurb like the official RPG based on the film The Terminator and all Terminator Dark Horse comics or somethibg like that. I think because Marvel still has some weird rights to comics based on Terminator 2 specifically or something like that. I know Gaska is working on expanding the RPG to include T2 stuff eventually. One of my “pet peeves” with the RPG’s art is it uses the endoskeleton design from Terminator Genisys instead of the “classic” design from T1 and 2 (yes they’re slightly different). I’m not sure why they did that.
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CelticPredator posted:colon marines "Wake up private! You're in some serrrious poo poo!" -AvP Gold
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Xenomrph posted:I know Gaska is working on expanding the RPG to include T2 stuff eventually. That rules! Looking forward to checking the game out. I wonder if there's lingering dispute over what can be called/look like a T-800 or whatever like with Terminator 3
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CelticPredator posted:colon marines
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Splicer posted:We have very different opinions of fireteam. I mean I was sure someone in this thread would love it. The problem with Fireteam is that it's perfectly fine to play through once at a middling difficulty level and have fun, but higher difficulties are just an extremely tiresome damage/hp escalator that isn't fun and not worth grinding for.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I think it's kind of funny that through a series of contextual changes and overall cultural drift, the Lovecraftian read on the Alien and the presumably uncaring universe that created it is seen as comforting and signifying potential and wonder, while the (ambiguously sincere) Biblical imagery that Ridley Scott likes to play with, with the Alien as sort of the ultimate slave / leper and the Engineer as something like a man, is upsetting "forbidden knowledge" that threatens the viewer with irreversible contamination just by knowing about it. This is because nerds badly misread Lovecraft’s stories, if they’ve even read them at all. Going back so far as even The Beast In The Cave, Lovecraft insisted that monsters aren’t actually that scary. The protagonist of Beast has gotten himself deeply lost in Mammoth Cave, without a torch, and - concluding that the situation is hopeless - has resigned himself to a slow death by starvation. Obviously this sucks for him, but he’s able to rationalize that there are worse ways to die. This massive cave will make a pretty awesome tomb, I guess. Gradually, though, he becomes aware that he is being approached by something. From the sound of it, it’s likely a puma - but the protagonist is disturbed by the realization that, in the absolute darkness, he’ll never actually know what the creature is. Even as it eats him alive, or even if he manages to kill it with a pointy rock.... Again, though, the protagonist rationalizes that being eaten by a mountain lion is probably better than starving over the course of a couple weeks. It’ll suck, but oh well! Anyways, spoiler alert, the ‘puma’ was actually an old, naked homeless dude who’d been lost in the cave for a several decades. Crawling around in the dark on all fours, subsisting on eyeless cave-fish, his limbs gnarled and his clothes having long since disintegrated, protagonist and the tour guide who miraculously intervenes initially mistake him for a weird new species of ape. This is what finally, truly horrifies the protag. Beast is not a particularly well-written story, but the point is obvious: the horror of being trapped in a cave isn’t the nothingness of the void, or being eaten by some incomprehensible monster. It’s living, surviving - being unable to die even as everything else is stripped away. Obviously protag is only a few bad meals away from becoming a ‘beast’ himself. Protagonist is also implicitly disturbed by the abjection of this neighbour, where any empathy is countered by revulsion. If anything, he’s dodged the ultimate horror of being trapped in the cave together for decades - forced into disgusting, intimate overproximity. So, the meme version of Lovecraft is that the protagonist sees a monster, it’s indescribably awful, beyond his comprehension, and his brain shuts down. The end. In actuality, we know full well what actually happens when people encounter a space-puma in Lovecraft’s stories: they start a cult serving it, and/or try to have sex with it, or whatever. The horror for Lovecraft is not that these cultist losers and their gods exist, but the likelihood that he - and, by extension, you - will become like them. You will be consumed by thirsts, and hungers, and lusts. You will find religion. And of course that’s precisely what perturbs nerds with Prometheus - especially with regards to Shaw. And it’s why the space-puma referred to as “the xenomorph” has to be hyped to incredible levels of absurdity.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This is because nerds badly misread Lovecraft’s stories, if they’ve even read them at all. Lolwut https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovecraftian_horror There are many facets to Lovecraftian horror, one of which is scary weird monsters. Especially considering Prometheus is a retelling of ‘At The Mountains of Madness’ (which contains actual honest to god monsters), with the black goo and its creations standing in for the Shoggoth I wonder, who are these vague, nebulous “nerds”? Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Mar 22, 2023 |
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Does "The Beast in the Cave" even count as Lovecraftian, though? It doesn't seem racist enough.
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That Wikipedia article basically backs up SMG's point in a less interesting way. Lovecraftian horror is about knowledge and what it might do to you, not the monster.
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Alchenar posted:That Wikipedia article basically backs up SMG's point in a less interesting way. Lovecraftian horror is about knowledge and what it might do to you, not the monster. Well I mean, yes that is an important aspect of Lovecraftian horror absolutely, but the Shoggoth article talks about how the creature is “terrible” (to use Lovecraft’s own words) and that the mere possibility that such a monster could exist on earth brings a character indescribable terror. To quote the Wikipedia article on Lovecraftian horror and its themes: quote:[20] “Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality”. I’m not saying monsters are the sole aspect of Lovecraftian horror, it’s not. But to say “Lovecraft didn’t include scary monsters” is bizarre lol Also the xenomorph is cool and good Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Mar 22, 2023 |
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Well. Here we go again. Anyway, I’ll take a avp classic in prep for possible game night, xeno. I should be on your friends list already as I meant to get with you for some fireteam elite but still haven’t yet
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FastestGunAlive posted:Well. Here we go again. Anyway, I’ll take a avp classic in prep for possible game night, xeno. I should be on your friends list already as I meant to get with you for some fireteam elite but still haven’t yet Still 4 AvPs and an Alien Isolation on the table!
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Alchenar posted:I mean I was sure someone in this thread would love it. The problem with Fireteam is that it's perfectly fine to play through once at a middling difficulty level and have fun, but higher difficulties are just an extremely tiresome damage/hp escalator that isn't fun and not worth grinding for. Reminds of that newer Alien Syndrome game Sega did for the Wii. Fun overhead coop shooter, like coop Diablo for with four player online or couch coop but with goopy sci-fi alien poo poo instead of fantasy poo poo on the Wii in 2007 was good stuff, but after awhile the grind and harder areas just weren't fun. Man Alien Syndrome was cool, don't know if I'd call it Giger-esque but it had some cool body horror stuff for an arcade game of that age. That reminds me, SNK a favorite game developer of mine, made a coop overhead run 'n gun (I mean kind of slower paced I guess, more of a strafe 'n roll?) arcade game called SAR: SEARCH AND RESCUE. This game was hard as poo poo because it was an arcade game very much designed to take your money but had some extremely rewarding gore and Alien-esque body horror in it. The aliens themselves are just the xenomorph straight up they didn't even file the serial numbers off. And impressively for a game of that age had some great body exploding gore animation. poo poo like you see a guy in power armor and you blow away the armor bit by bit, blow away the guy, blow away the zombie version of the guy, blow away the alien blob that bursts out of the guy, then blow away the xenomorph that grows out of the blob after you shoot it. Just this occassionally insane amount of overkill for like a regular enemy that you can just run by if you want. Good poo poo imo. SNK also I give a lot of credit of their arcade games having some seriously downer endings throughout that era. This game's premise is you and player 2 are the special company "search and rescue" team, then when you beat the game the ending is that you completed your mission - successfully scuttling what was left of the wrecked ship into a chasm and blowing it up to completely over up that there were aliens on it for your bosses.  Also appreciate the soundtrack hehee. Anyways good Alien-esque video game poo poo imo, gently caress yeah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZ5jGN4KUU
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Alchenar posted:I mean I was sure someone in this thread would love it. The problem with Fireteam is that it's perfectly fine to play through once at a middling difficulty level and have fun, but higher difficulties are just an extremely tiresome damage/hp escalator that isn't fun and not worth grinding for.
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When you said alien “influenced” NeoGeo game I thought you meant xeno crisis: https://youtu.be/alUno2phEjk
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Splicer posted:Oh yeah I don't play higher than the first friendly fire difficulty level, partly because it's just me & Mrs Splicer and an idiot bot. But replaying levels with different loadouts while buying new guns and making the new guns' numbers go up is very much our jam. Some of the cards are fun too, like dropping a Drone into a level with a lot of non-Alien enemies. I went out of my way to make all of my guns in Fireteam look like the Nerf pulse rifle, with gaudy yellow hazard striping everywhere.
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Anyway my prediction is that Dark Descent won't be terrible, but you will play through it and come back to this thread and there won't be a single moment from the game you can recall or want to post about.
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A repeating theme of Lovecraftian horror is specifically discovering unknowable alien awfulness in other people, or in yourself, either as something that's being called down or generated by their behavior or that's secretly been there all along. "Oh poo poo, the Elder Things were people all along" or "Oh poo poo, I was a Deep One all along". Sure, a Shoggoth is just a pitiless force of destruction that's more akin to an environmental hazard than a thinking antagonist... but it's also just something a race of people were making use of that spiraled out of their control, akin to an oil fire or radiation leak.
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I haven't read it in awhile, but aren't the monsters in At the Mountains of Madness giant skinless penguins? I could easily be mistaking it with another Lovecraft book, if that's the case, my apologies
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ruddiger posted:I haven't read it in awhile, but aren't the monsters in At the Mountains of Madness giant skinless penguins? Nah, they're more like big weird sea cucumber things with wings and tentacles and star-shaped faces. Basically a mashup of a bunch of different types of sea life. (And then also the shoggoths, which are just formless shapeshifters.) There is however an extended aside where the protagonist discovers that one of the Elder Things (monsters) has dissected one of his crewmates, and his reaction as an explorer and scientist (once he realizes they did it and it wasn't just human infighting) is "omg they're just like us."
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Xenomrph posted:Shoot me a message on Steam and I’ll hook you up when I get home. What's your Steam ID? Edit: I found the disc immediately and in perfect condition. Edit x2: And of course my drive won't read it  McGann fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Ferrinus posted:A repeating theme of Lovecraftian horror is specifically discovering unknowable alien awfulness in other people, or in yourself, either as something that's being called down or generated by their behavior or that's secretly been there all along. "Oh poo poo, the Elder Things were people all along" or "Oh poo poo, I was a Deep One all along". Sure, a Shoggoth is just a pitiless force of destruction that's more akin to an environmental hazard than a thinking antagonist... but it's also just something a race of people were making use of that spiraled out of their control, akin to an oil fire or radiation leak. I agree with all of this, that is a big part of some Lovecraftian horror. I suppose you could even argue that there are elements of what you’re talking about in ‘Alien’ - Ash is visually like a human, but isn’t one; is his kind going to “replace” the crew in the long run (I’d argue that David hopes for that)? The Company (which is also unclouded by conscience, remorse, and delusions of morality) is ostensibly made up of people who have “become” a nonhuman (inhuman?) entity… or were those people like that all along? I completely agree that major facets of Lovecraftian horror include fear of the unknown/unknowable (and fear of the “other” that may exist within ourselves), but scary monsters do exist in Lovecraftian fiction. The Alien is a weird-looking rape-monster that murders people violently, and getting murdered is scary, but getting murdered isn’t necessarily Lovecraft-scary. Part of the horror in ‘Alien’ includes that we don’t know what the amoral creature is going to do (it reacts to every character differently) or, like a Shoggoth, what physical form it’s even going to take. Hell, the Alien itself is the literal embodiment of “a monster within ourselves”, complete with recognizable-but-warped physical characteristics. ruddiger posted:I haven't read it in awhile, but aren't the monsters in At the Mountains of Madness giant skinless penguins? I think those are in At The Mountains of Madness too or maybe just giant penguins or something, but the Shoggoth (former servants of the elder gods that look like writhing amorphous black tar with myriad eyeballs all over the place) is there too. The Wiki article has a quote from Lovecraft of what they’re supposed to look like. Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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I’m thinking Friday night at 9PM EST would be a good time for most folks for AvP Classic. Please ask thread friend Xenomorph if you want a copy if you want, otherwise it’s still on sale. If he runs out I can give out a few copies as well. PM me or add me Steam https://steamcommunity.com/id/spacejim/
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Space Jam posted:I’m thinking Friday night at 9PM EST would be a good time for most folks for AvP Classic. Please ask thread friend Xenomorph if you want a copy if you want, otherwise it’s still on sale. If he runs out I can give out a few copies as well. Invite sent. I haven't used Steam in forever so I'm either a variation of this user or Redhammer - I'm not sure which of these names is the "display". Treat me like a boomer, I guess Steam FAQ tells me if I get gifted a copy and it won't play, I can still return it with <2 hours playtime? If that's accurate, since my CD drive won't read, I'm humbly requesting a copy. This PC should run it, but if not I will return.
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McGann posted:What's your Steam ID? My steam ID is "Xenomrph" (same icon as I use here), my friend code is 17618088 If you need a copy of AvPClassic, hit me up. FastestGunAlive, shoot me a Steam message or post your Steam ID/friend code, I'm home now. Space Jam posted:I’m thinking Friday night at 9PM EST would be a good time for most folks for AvP Classic. Please ask thread friend Xenomorph if you want a copy if you want, otherwise it’s still on sale. If he runs out I can give out a few copies as well. 
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:And of course that’s precisely what perturbs nerds with Prometheus - especially with regards to Shaw. And it’s why the space-puma referred to as “the xenomorph” has to be hyped to incredible levels of absurdity. SuperMechagodzilla posted:This is because nerds badly misread Lovecraft’s stories, if they’ve even read them at all. Lovecraft's overarching theme is that nothing is scarier than a privileged white man of pure English stock being confronted by the possibility of losing his rightful status as the centre of the universe. In The Beast in the Cave the narrator is confronted by the realisation that external circumstances could cost him his birthright via transformation into one of his lessers. Innsmouth, Arthur Jermyn, and H.P. Lovecraft's horrifying real life experience of finding out he was part Welsh reflect the possibility of a privileged white man of pure English stock discovering they were never of pure English stock at all. But the category you haven't covered is that one could remain a white man of pure English stock, and remain privileged compared to their lessers, but discover that there exists a being or beings more priviliged and more powerful again, able to exert their will upon the narrator as easily as or easier than they exert their will upon The Other. The truly cosmic horror of discovering that being a privileged white man of pure English stock does not actually matter. Splicer fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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Xenomrph posted:My steam ID is "Xenomrph" (same icon as I use here), my friend code is 17618088 I’m not home today but I should be on your friends list as fastestgunalive
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FastestGunAlive posted:I’m not home today but I should be on your friends list as fastestgunalive I have an "FGA" with an icon that looks like a little orange cat in a wizard's cap hopping across a background, is that you?
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Xenomrph posted:Shoot me a message on Steam and I’ll hook you up when I get home. Yo I’d love one AvP pls
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Xenomrph posted:I have an "FGA" with an icon that looks like a little orange cat in a wizard's cap hopping across a background, is that you? Yes sir
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