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I move to immediately nominate harold krell for chair of the inaugural mafia player's council
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CCKeane posted:I very strongly agree with Sandwolf here. I think we should focus on discussing if/what can and should be done to make the community safer and more comfortable for people, posts that are infighting/personal don't accomplish this goal. I think communication in an open forum should occur. Like uh
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Sandwolf posted:It’s also kinda messed up when we’ve been having community wide conversations about people being comfortable in this community, only to have the members of the community come in and attack someone because they basically don’t recognize them? It just didn't look like it was about not recognizing them and felt a lot more like an attempt to make their opinions irrelevant and invalidate them. But re reg has since said that it wasn't intended as an attack so. "shrug" I guess we're done.
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Sandwolf posted:Here’s something on point: more than one member of the current-mafia playing community has reached out to me to complain about what y’all just did. Taste resurrected this thread and it's his responsibility to kill it again
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Mar 23, 2023 21:54
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krell's non-mafia creative work was very interesting, and i think he should be interpreted as a performance artist
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I wish I could read all these exciting new posts but I’m about to get on a plane
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CapitalistPig posted:It just didn't look like it was about not recognizing them and felt a lot more like an attempt to make their opinions irrelevant and invalidate them. But re reg has since said that it wasn't intended as an attack so. "shrug" I guess we're done. another game room ik success story
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Mar 23, 2023 21:54
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i think laughing at a bad post is ok and the fact that this has to turn into a big hubadub about whether or not this was cliquey from both sides is more unwelcoming to people than anything honestly, lol
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Mar 23, 2023 21:55
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My Second Re-Reg posted:I am well noted for being a loudly opinionated cockbite, so for what it's worth I agree with this and mean zero ill posting will toward anybody. Well apologies for reading your post and getting a bit put off by the tone.
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Sandwolf posted:Here’s something on point: more than one member of the current-mafia playing community has reached out to me to complain about what y’all just did. A major item here, and an important one, is that very often people don't think they're in the wrong or making somebody uncomfortable, or that they'll think that they're in the right and defending their standing or some other concept - but it doesn't matter if you don't think you're in the wrong, if somebody's uncomfortable and doesn't feel welcome, they don't feel comfortable and welcome. I'm really disappointed that we can't discuss this.
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Hal Insandenza posted:I wish I could read all these exciting new posts but I’m about to get on a plane I move to nominate Hal immediately after my Krell nomination is roundly rejected
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Mar 23, 2023 21:55
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Hal Insandenza posted:I wish I could read all these exciting new posts but I’m about to get on a plane I see nothing has changed with your mafia play
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Mar 23, 2023 21:56
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DGK2000 posted:I see nothing has changed with your mafia play lmao
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CapitalistPig posted:It just didn't look like it was about not recognizing them and felt a lot more like an attempt to make their opinions irrelevant and invalidate them. But re reg has since said that it wasn't intended as an attack so. "shrug" I guess we're done. Notice how many current players are posting? Notice how many veterans are digging in? This was the first proper chance at reacting better as a community and it was totally hosed.
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Mar 23, 2023 21:56
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CCKeane posted:A major item here, and an important one, is that very often people don't think they're in the wrong or making somebody uncomfortable, or that they'll think that they're in the right and defending their standing or some other concept - but it doesn't matter if you don't think you're in the wrong, if somebody's uncomfortable and doesn't feel welcome, they don't feel comfortable and welcome. If I make anyone uncomfortable or unwelcome please tell me as it really isn't my intent. I'd rather everyone be happy. Except ConorT
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Mar 23, 2023 21:57
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CapitalistPig posted:I'm not slamming him , It's just kinda messed up to tell a bunch of people that they are no longer relevant and don;t have a say in anything. I don't think this is reasonable, no, at all. And this is not aimed at you, mind, but I also don't think it's reasonable to tell people who regularly or semi-regularly play right now that they need to have been there for longer to have an opinion. I've been here for a bit and modded for a bit, too, you know it, and I only know like half of the people posting right now, and most of them I know from seeing them around because I do hang out in both Discords. It's not an issue of them vs us, it's a "we are going to play together so let's try to have a community, not two halves of one" If we absolutely need an IK I agree with whoever said Grandicap would be a great one. Bif too, but I don't think she wants to be? If we're going to do the list of trusted people, we should start nominating before we run the mods out of there, I think.
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Snooze Cruise posted:i think laughing at a bad post is ok and the fact that this has to turn into a big hubadub about whether or not this was cliquey from both sides is more unwelcoming to people than anything honestly, lol hi, newbie here, and I agree with snooze on this one, taking the discussion away from what was said in the posts to whether it was an attack on old players or new players or whatever hasn't really cast anyone involved or the community in a great light, especially since the actual substantive discussion was mostly being resolved and cleared up in the meantime
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Sandwolf posted:Notice how many current players are posting? Notice how many veterans are digging in? This was the first proper chance at reacting better as a community and it was totally hosed. Shellception posted:I don't think this is reasonable, no, at all. And this is not aimed at you, mind, but I also don't think it's reasonable to tell people who regularly or semi-regularly play right now that they need to have been there for longer to have an opinion. I've been here for a bit and modded for a bit, too, you know it, and I only know like half of the people posting right now, and most of them I know from seeing them around because I do hang out in both Discords. It's not an issue of them vs us, it's a "we are going to play together so let's try to have a community, not two halves of one" yeah okay , as I said re reg clarified what seemed like kind of a crappy thing to say was not intended as an attack. I get it. LET'S MOVE ON
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Mar 23, 2023 21:59
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CCKeane posted:A major item here, and an important one, is that very often people don't think they're in the wrong or making somebody uncomfortable, or that they'll think that they're in the right and defending their standing or some other concept - but it doesn't matter if you don't think you're in the wrong, if somebody's uncomfortable and doesn't feel welcome, they don't feel comfortable and welcome. i was at first annoyed and made uncomfortable by what I percieved as a poster saying my opinion and presence didn't matter, but then I thought about it and realized that it wasn't that big a deal what that person meant, if indeed they really meant it, and that I should get out of my own head about it. this is a wonderful cure for so many minor disagreements in life
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Mar 23, 2023 21:59
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I think when you’re having conversations about the future of a community you owe it to everyone to post in a manner whereby someone doesn’t come away from that posting feeling othered.
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Mar 23, 2023 22:00
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Shellception posted:If we absolutely need an IK I agree with whoever said Grandicap would be a great one. Bif too, but I don't think she wants to be? In all seriousness, if there is anything actually useful that could be done in the role of IK, there's a decent chance I might be too busy with kid or work or whatever at the rare time it needs doing, and it would just put more stress in my life to feel bad about failing at such a low-workload job.
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Mar 23, 2023 22:00
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Can we set up pager duty or some other type of notification app so that the future IK is always accessible? I think that’s going to be very important especially when things happen late at night sometimes.
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Mar 23, 2023 22:01
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I volunteer
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Mar 23, 2023 22:02
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IDK about you guys but I think this thread is pretty fun
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Mar 23, 2023 22:02
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Bifauxnen posted:In all seriousness, if there is anything actually useful that could be done in the role of IK, there's a decent chance I might be too busy with kid or work or whatever at the rare time it needs doing, and it would just put more stress in my life to feel bad about failing at such a low-workload job. we need to resurrect mr steak and have him do it as he's young enough to not have any responsibilities that might interfere with important IK duties given the tension in the thread right now I should note that this is a joke about mr steak and not a dig at your extremely reasonable hesitance to take on a role that might have time demands you'd have trouble meeting without sacrificing other important parts of your life
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Mar 23, 2023 22:02
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Oh my god
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Mar 23, 2023 22:02
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I was thinking about ways we could monetize the community, maybe we can mint our own currency that people have to use to play in games? And mods get currency for running games - and the currency can be used in a shop that only takes that currency. Just spitballing here
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Mar 23, 2023 22:03
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Jen X posted:we need to resurrect mr steak and have him do it as he's young enough to not have any responsibilities that might interfere with important IK duties I think you mean permabanned poster mr steak
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Jen X posted:we need to resurrect mr steak and have him do it as he's young enough to not have any responsibilities that might interfere with important IK duties Better hurry, school's almost out and I hear he goes to summer camp
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Jen X posted:we need to resurrect mr steak and have him do it as he's young enough to not have any responsibilities that might interfere with important IK duties My one* true posting enemy…. *I hope the only one although sometimes I wonder
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Mar 23, 2023 22:04
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The problem we have right now is that we need some mafia games to open up so this energy can go into the games instead
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Jump King posted:The problem we have right now is that we need some mafia games to open up so this energy can go into the games Lmao if you think half the people posting are gonna sign up
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Jump King posted:The problem we have right now is that we need some mafia games to open up so this energy can go into the games instead it would be nice to fill this game https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4027694
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this reminds me i have a very dumb idea for a complicated mafia game does anyone want to hear it?
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Snooze Cruise posted:this reminds me i have a very dumb idea for a complicated mafia game does anyone want to hear it? yes
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Shellception posted:I don't think this is reasonable, no, at all. And this is not aimed at you, mind, but I also don't think it's reasonable to tell people who regularly or semi-regularly play right now that they need to have been there for longer to have an opinion. I've been here for a bit and modded for a bit, too, you know it, and I only know like half of the people posting right now, and most of them I know from seeing them around because I do hang out in both Discords. It's not an issue of them vs us, it's a "we are going to play together so let's try to have a community, not two halves of one" quote:The SA Mafia community takes a lot of pride in being a safe, respectful, inclusive and inviting space. If you ever encounter anything or anyone who makes you feel uncomfortable, threatened, abused, angry, or even unsure of how you feel, there are many people here, both within and outside of the SA Mafia community, who are happily willing to listen, provide support, and enact change to make the community better for everyone. Here is a short list of only some of the people that other players have suggested as a resource that you should never hesitate to contact: Leperfish, Antivehicular, Sandwold, Shellception, Grandicap, Hal Insandenza, Wologar, Maerlyn, EccoRaven, CCKeane, Cloacamazing!, Oppopanix (certainly spelled wrong), Bifauxen, [insert one or more people here]. Take it, change it, completely rewrite it, add it to the OP, add it to your games, change the names as you see fit. Edit: to make it clear I don't think we should have an official nominated list. I think everyone should feel free to add or change the names they want to provide as they see fit, as things change, whatever. I just want to let people know there exists a large support network and a desire to keep this place from being an abusive environment (I would say keep it from being a shitshow but then it wouldn't be mafia). Voodoofly fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Mar 23, 2023 |
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I have the best worst idea for a game but I'm only running it if humalong co mods with me
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Squiggly posted:I have the best worst idea for a game but I'm only running it if humalong co mods with me You know I’m always in
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Mar 23, 2023 22:07
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Jump King posted:The problem we have right now is that we need some mafia games to open up so this energy can go into the games instead There was a second one but it looks like Mona's is full up. Go team!
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t a s t e posted:it would be nice to fill this game I want to but I think my head would explode if I joined another mafia game, someone else should join it but pretend to be me
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