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unl33t posted:Surprisingly little chatter in the thread about such a major organizational shift in Chicago I didn't read the article, but I don't think it's really news that the Bears, at least in the short term, are gonna live and die on Justin Fields, not their defense. It is a huge shift, but, it's one that's been known for a bit. Their number one priority is to find out if Justin Fields is the guy.
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unl33t posted:Surprisingly little chatter in the thread about such a major organizational shift in Chicago tbh I still don't feel like I know enough about how Poles wants to run a football team yet. I THINK I believe him when he says poo poo like he intends to build through the draft, that he's in no hurry to be good now, and that as an organization they seem much more interested in maximizing value and not overspending at all. Most coaches would rather draft and develop "their guys" anyway. Sounds good to me, I hope it works out and we win a Super Bowl soon, that'd be pretty cool e - ope GNU Order fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Mar 26, 2023 |
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I was commenting on Coach Poles
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unl33t posted:Surprisingly little chatter in the thread about such a major organizational shift in Chicago All the offseason talk about how good he's doing has gone to his head
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I like what Ryan Poles has done so far, but I also liked what Ryan Pace did when he arrived and I liked what Phil Emery did when he started so I'm just a big dumb homer, but I never liked a thing Jerry Angelo ever did
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MJeff posted:I didn't read the article, but I don't think it's really news that the Bears, at least in the short term, are gonna live and die on Justin Fields, not their defense. It is a huge shift, but, it's one that's been known for a bit. Their number one priority is to find out if Justin Fields is the guy. The Bears are in year one of what is likely to be a three-year rebuild.
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I keep seeing dumb articles about the bears being the right spot for derrik henry. I just wanna strangle some of these clickbait writers.
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i think the bears will be v potent in 2-3 years but there keeps being this idea that they're make or break in 2023 and it's strange. why are brains so broken
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The Bears are in year 2 of a rebuild the year after this one they should be good. The NFL is not a league where rebuilding takes long Also if Fields takes a step, they will be good. So much is just dependent on the QB
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The only thing make or break is determining if Fields is the guy or if he regresses from the progress he made in the second half last year. If he's not the guy by December-January, you'll know and have an offseason to decide what now before the last year on his contract (they still haven't picked up the 5th year option yet) starts
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Yeah they gotta find out NOW because if they're gonna trade up to go get a QB, next year is the year they have A) the ammo and B) A pretty good target.
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Sinbad's Sex Tape posted:I like what Ryan Poles has done so far, but I also liked what Ryan Pace did when he arrived and I liked what Phil Emery did when he started so I'm just a big dumb homer, but I never liked a thing Jerry Angelo ever did I never liked anything Emery did. I didn't mind Pace at first, but his constant need to trade up for guys infuriated me and was his eventual demise. Poles is the first GM we've ever had where I don't need to rationalize what he's doing.
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Pace getting mack ended up being good but then he hosed it all up going for trubs at 2. He wanted to win now and almost got away with it but then he doubled down instead of blowing up the team
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HootTheOwl posted:Pace getting mack ended up being good but then he hosed it all up going for trubs at 2. If he'd gone Mahomes or Watson, we probably would've had a Super Bowl with that defense. Crazy to think about.
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Sataere posted:If he'd gone Mahomes or Watson, we probably would've had a Super Bowl with that defense. Crazy to think about. i don't think pat mahomes playing for john fox would have worked out as well as him with andy reid, just my 2 cents
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R.D. Mangles posted:i don't think pat mahomes playing for john fox would have worked out as well as him with andy reid, just my 2 cents I meant that first year with Nagy
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Sataere posted:If he'd gone Mahomes or Watson, we probably would've had a Super Bowl with that defense. Crazy to think about. i was thinking this was an exaggeration, but any qb better than trubs gets you past philly, new orleans, the Rams (who the bears had already destroyed) and then that lovely new england team that beat the rams 13-3
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poo poo dude, if they just re-sign Gould, that might be enough to get them through those teams anyway.
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I'm very worried that signing Robbie will just have him retire in a few years(because he's 40) and the kicker they bench for him will be so broken that he'll be infested with the spirit of Cody parky
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mastershakeman posted:i was thinking this was an exaggeration, but any qb better than trubs gets you past philly, new orleans, the Rams (who the bears had already destroyed) and then that lovely new england team that beat the rams 13-3 They wouldn’t have even played Philly. They were lone win in the regular season from getting a bye. They lost to GB by 1, and Miami and the NYG in OT. They would’ve won at least one of those games with Mahomes, possibly all three and gotten the 1 seed. That whole season was a series of just missed wins.
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that mack trade was so much fun because the very first game reminded everyone that defense doesn't win championships and even if your new star player gets a forced fumble, and INT he returns for a td, and knocks the other qb out of the game for a half, that other qb can just come back and beat you when your offense is total dogshit
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HootTheOwl posted:I'm very worried that signing Robbie will just have him retire in a few years(because he's 40) and the kicker they bench for him will be so broken that he'll be infested with the spirit of Cody parky I just looked it up and Robbie Gould is exactly 2 weeks younger than me
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https://twitter.com/TheVikingsWire/status/1640096494656077824?s=20 Impressed they are saying no to buying more years with Kirk.
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Wow, feels like that's a pretty rare outcome. Either a team is ride-or-die or they just trade/cut their QB, it's got to be really rare for a team to outright go "We're moving on from you in the future, but for now you're our starter." Even the Packers went with Rodgers right until it was beyond clear they couldn't manage it anymore, and then they immediately moved to trade him instead of leaving him as a lame duck.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Wow, feels like that's a pretty rare outcome. Either a team is ride-or-die or they just trade/cut their QB, it's got to be really rare for a team to outright go "We're moving on from you in the future, but for now you're our starter." I dont think the way the packers have handled rodgers is the better situation here. Sign a qb to a crippling contract, watch a lovely year unfold, then "trade" him for an unknown compensation. Deal isnt even done yet. Jets can still backout and then the pack are on the hook for 75 mil...40 if they cut post june 1? I might be slightly wrong on the money, but whatever. At least the vikings arent gonna be in cap hell and it gives cousins a chance at one last big contract somwhere.
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Kirk Cousins is going to be banished to the desert with the Fremen. He will undergo the Spice Agony, his eyes will start glowing blue, and come back with fantastical powers. He will then throw 3 picks in the final 6 minutes of the NFC Divisional Round.
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Kirk is getting older, so I can understand the Vikings not wanting to guarantee his 2025 salary when the dude will be 37. But at the same time, it does seem like a significant gamble for the Vikes to roll into 2023 without their QB for 2024 on the roster, unless they're prepared to pay a king's ransom to get a top draft pick this year.
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They have to make sure they're ready contract wise for Aaron's eventual move from the Jets. This is the way.
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SirPablo posted:https://twitter.com/TheVikingsWire/status/1640096494656077824?s=20 Lol there are just a few people in the replies saying "this is a bad idea!" and their timelines are full of right wing bullshit. Fundies love Kirk
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He was unvaxxed right and had to have a screen and seperation? Unlike Rogers who was unvaxxed but ate the clay.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I just looked it up and Robbie Gould is exactly 2 weeks younger than me To be fair, the last time I said this about Robbie, he went to San Francisco and Beat the Packers. I'm sure your legs are good too.
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More like Robbie Old gotem
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HootTheOwl posted:He was unvaxxed right and had to have a screen and seperation?
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Yes he was a lot more upfront about his moral repulsiveness than Rodgers. It made chuds love him even more https://twitter.com/NBCSCommanders/status/875842484735283200?s=20
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I mean they are both idiots, but do you respect Kirk more for being open about it vs shady rear end A-A-Ron?
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two qbs stand in front of your path to the NFC championship. one always tells the truth, the other always tells lies. You are only allowed to ask one question. What do you ask them to ruin their team chemistry?
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mastershakeman posted:two qbs stand in front of your path to the NFC championship. one always tells the truth, the other always tells lies. You are only allowed to ask one question. What do you ask them to ruin their team chemistry? What's your vaccination status?
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Comfortador posted:I mean they are both idiots, but do you respect Kirk more for being open about it vs shady rear end A-A-Ron? I generally respect Kirk more, like man, at least be secure enough in your lovely beliefs that you aren't willing to hide them, and as such face the consequences without getting mad. Rather than Rodgers lying because he doesn't want to be hated.
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Comfortador posted:I mean they are both idiots, but do you respect Kirk more for being open about it vs shady rear end A-A-Ron? Yeah. I don’t “respect” Kirk for his reactionary regressive views, but I disrespect Rodgers more for lying about it. It’s funny, because in Oct/Nov 2021 when Rodgers not being vax’d was news, nobody had given a poo poo about anti-vaxers like Kirk, Dak, and Cole Beasley being unvax’d since the summer. Rodgers simultaneously dragged it out longer and got more poo poo about it by being an evasive little weasel.
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Overall I assume Kirk's views are far more odious than Rodgers.
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