double nine posted:

https://twitter.com/przidnt1/status/1641213130574266368

has a nice ring to it

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Lumbergh posted:

"ummm yeahhhh my bankruptcy proceedings are gonna take billions of years........"

croup coughfield posted:

base: men
superstructure: times

croup coughfield posted:

poking in briefly to say: when i get my star back its going to be a loving bloodbath in here

Tuckerd posted:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

who the gently caress is this guy, he gets perma’d every day and ive never heard of any of the accounts

Raskolnikov38 posted:

who the gently caress is this guy, he gets perma’d every day and ive never heard of any of the accounts

John Charity Spring posted:

it's the guy who tried to sue the forum for discriminating against him by banning one of his accounts and not letting him post porn or something. the "many different users state they do not like or want me posting" guy

John Charity Spring posted:

it's the guy who tried to sue the forum for discriminating against him by banning one of his accounts and not letting him post porn or something. the "many different users state they do not like or want me posting" guy

John Charity Spring posted:

it's the guy who tried to sue the forum for discriminating against him by banning one of his accounts and not letting him post porn or something. the "many different users state they do not like or want me posting" guy

Azathoth posted:

Before suing the forums for banning him and eating a perma for it, he had a long track record of posting normally for long stretches and then having a day where he'd spam a bunch of poo poo that wouldn't make sense. He'd eat a ban or a long probe and come back normal and the cycle would repeat, often on a different account. Nothing violent or anything, and it didn't happen often enough that people really noticed they were a constant rereg. He didn't have a telltale giveaway like AI deserve human rights or whatever so most folks weren't aware of a connection until that fateful court filing.

When that dropped, some folks found local news articles about him, as apparently his legal filings weren't confined to dead gay comedy forums and he is a prolific pro se filer. Basically he's got some pretty heavy mental health problems but because he's not a danger to himself or others, he can't be made to get help. I remember reading a fairly heartaching quote from his brother about it. Just generally a sad state of affairs.

500 good dogs posted:

can't believe jeff decided to squeeze all the money out of this poor disturbed person, 10 dollars at a time, instead of just letting him post

John Charity Spring posted:

it's the guy who tried to sue the forum for discriminating against him by banning one of his accounts and not letting him post porn or something. the "many different users state they do not like or want me posting" guy

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Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn't that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?

It won' t do!

It won't do!

You must investigate!

You must not talk nonsense!

quote:

When they come across difficult problems, quite a number of people in leading positions simply heave a sigh without being able to solve them. They lose patience and ask to be transferred on the ground that they "have not the ability and cannot do the job"; These are cowards' words. Just get moving on your two legs, go the rounds of every section placed under your charge and "inquire into everything''[1] as Confucius did, and then you will be able to solve the problems, however little is your ability; for although your head may be empty before you go out of doors, it will be empty no longer when you return but will contain all sorts of material necessary for the solution of the problems, and that is how problems are solved. Must you go out of doors? Not necessarily. You can call a fact-finding meeting of people familiar with the situation in order to get at the source of what you call a difficult problem and come to know how it stands now, and then it will be easy to solve your difficult problem.

Investigation may be likened to the long months of pregnancy, and solving a problem to the day of birth. To investigate a problem is, indeed, to solve it.

quote:

A Communist Party's correct and unswerving tactics of struggle can in no circumstance be created by a few people sitting in an office; they emerge in the course of mass struggle, that is, through actual experience. Therefore, we must at all times study social conditions and make practical investigations. Those comrades who are inflexible, conservative, formalistic and groundlessly optimistic think that the present tactics of struggle are perfect, that the "book of documents"[5] of the Party's Sixth National Congress guarantees lasting victory, and that one can always be victorious merely by adhering to the established methods. These ideas are absolutely wrong and have nothing in common with the idea that Communists should create favourable new situations through struggle; they represent a purely conservative line. Unless it is completely discarded, this line will cause great losses to the revolution and do harm to these comrades themselves. There are obviously some comrades in our Red Army who are content to leave things as they are, who do not seek to understand anything thoroughly and are groundlessly optimistic, and they spread the fallacy that "this is proletarian". They eat their fill and sit dozing in their offices all day long without ever moving a step and going out among the masses to investigate. Whenever they open their mouths, their platitudes make people sick. To awaken these comrades we must raise our voices and cry out to them:

Change your conservative ideas without delay!

Replace them by progressive and militant Communist ideas!

Get into the struggle!

Go among the masses and investigate the facts!

mila kunis posted:

No investigation? No, right to speak!

mila kunis posted:

No investigation? No, right to speak!

mila kunis posted:

No investigation? No, right to speak!

croup coughfield posted:

for some reason this makes me think of cspam every time i read it

quote:

THE TECHNIQUE OF INVESTlGATION

1. Hold fact-finding meetings and undertake investigation through discussions.

This is the only way to get near the truth, the only way to draw conclusions. It is easy to commit mistakes if you do not hold fact-finding meetings for investigation through discussions but simply rely on one individual relating his own experience. You cannot possibly draw more or less correct conclusions at such meetings if you put questions casually instead of raising key-questions for discussion.

2. What kind of people should attend the fact-finding meetings?

They should be people well acquainted with social and economic conditions. As far as age is concerned, older people are best, because they are rich in experience and not only know what is going an but understand the causes and effects. Young people with experience of struggle should also be included, because they have progressive ideas and sharp eyes. As far as occupation is concerned, there should be workers, peasants, merchants, intellectuals, and occasionally soldiers, and sometimes even vagrants..

mila kunis posted:

it would be cool to be a part of an organized mass party apparatus that had the resources and labour hours to assign people to this kind of stuff. "we've been hearing complaints about the water situation in the southeastern part of province X. newly graduated cadre Goofus, you've been assigned to the team to look into this so you can get some actual experience of things outside of reading theory."

i remember talking to some older communist organizers and their systemic knowledge and in depth basic command of political economy of their region (bengal, which their party used to govern) down to individual localities and villages blew me away (didn't stop them from being turfed out of power though). "no investigation" is something i think is unfair to lodge against just cspam, at the end of the day most of us especially on the left are completely shut out of the resources and power required to be able to investigate stuff in depth and all those old structures have been completely dismantled and are actively sabotaged outside of like the communist parties of china, cuba, etc. we're all struggling at trying to get a picture of the truth of what's going on outside of the things we directly experience, getting past that takes time and financial backing

croup coughfield posted:

you are proving the chairman's point

In Training posted:

the millions of people talking crap on the computer and not doing much else are not the revolutionary cadre of the movement of the workers

mila kunis posted:

sorry if this sounded antagonistic, i dont actually disagree with what mao said there, i am just expressing my own frustration on not knowing how to get to the point he described in an organized way for socialists. my own experience with organizing work (tenants rights) has been that of a small niche organization disconnected from any kind of broader political movement that keeps losing to landlord/developer interests and lacks the resources to fight them in the way they fight us.

croup coughfield posted:

mila kunis posted:

it would be cool to be a part of an organized mass party apparatus that had the resources and labour hours to assign people to this kind of stuff. "we've been hearing complaints about the water situation in the southeastern part of province X. newly graduated cadre Goofus, you've been assigned to the team to look into this so you can get some actual experience of things outside of reading theory."

i remember talking to some older communist organizers and their systemic knowledge and in depth basic command of political economy of their region (bengal, which their party used to govern) down to individual localities and villages blew me away (didn't stop them from being turfed out of power though). "no investigation" is something i think is unfair to lodge against just cspam, at the end of the day most of us especially on the left are completely shut out of the resources and power required to be able to investigate stuff in depth and all those old structures have been completely dismantled and are actively sabotaged outside of like the communist parties of china, cuba, etc. we're all struggling at trying to get a picture of the truth of what's going on outside of the things we directly experience, getting past that takes time and financial backing

croup coughfield posted:

for some reason this makes me think of cspam every time i read it

mila kunis posted:

sorry if this sounded antagonistic, i dont actually disagree with what mao said there, i am just expressing my own frustration on not knowing how to get to the point he described in an organized way for socialists. my own experience with organizing work (tenants rights) has been that of a small niche organization disconnected from any kind of broader political movement that keeps losing to landlord/developer interests and lacks the resources to fight them in the way they fight us.

In Training posted:

the us is in 80 year downturn of losing ground in class struggle to capitalists and in the core of the international capitalist empire, it makes sense that theres currently a lack of a mass organization. in my own view, i think there will have to be a revitalization of a healthy trade union mvmt that could then develop and adopt mass party social & economic revolutionary programs. profound alienation in the workplace + the widespread dismantling and privatization of communal & social centers has left most people too disengaged to be building a socialist movement alongside their peers and comrades, in any form. trade unions are necessary to just provide opportunities for collective struggle and learn from doing.

ive seen an uptick in tenants right organizing and mutual aid aligned organizing since covid - i dont think these trends are going to go away, and youre absolutely correct that on an individual level they are powerless to overcome the power of the monopolists. american workers dont even go on strike to win $2 raises. we are, as a class, a long ways away from engaging in illegal strike activities that would need to be coordinated w/ local demands on housing right & anti-racist mvmts etc. to actually build lasting change.

new industrial trade unions + union reform mvmts are both fairly exciting developments that have happened actually fairly quickly in the last 3 years. the next capitalist crisis - potentially a depression from worsening rates of profit from neoliberal financialized capital - will only worsen material conditions and hasten new strategies. hopefully, at least.

AnimeIsTrash posted:

karlbongmarx420: open biden succ crack ping glem

cuban banana seller jose de arnos: masacraremos a los perros capitalistas y los convertiremos en carne picada

viva la revolución

croup coughfield posted:

for some reason this makes me think of cspam every time i read it