Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

an actual dog posted:

I thought The Batman Who Laughs sucked until I learned that he goes around killing parents in front of their kids because he wants to turn them into Batmans and that rules

It's such a stupid concept of a character (what if the batman was the joker and also had every plot armor bullshit available to him unless the editorial mandate is for him to lose) it warps back to being endearing.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I think it's saying that there's a sort of archetypal "avatar of contagious madness" that recurs again and again in Gotham, of which the Joker is one expression, but it almost literally couldn't have been presented in a less coherent fashion if you tried.

More or less this, which in turn ties into another common theory(that has some canon backing) that Gotham City is a metaphysical "factory" and that the intended end product is Batman, with all the other horrors and madness of the city unwanted byproducts of the process

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world
The Batman Who Games

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



drrockso20 posted:

More or less this, which in turn ties into another common theory(that has some canon backing) that Gotham City is a metaphysical "factory" and that the intended end product is Batman, with all the other horrors and madness of the city unwanted byproducts of the process
To what end?

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
The Batman who Posts

And also shat himself outside a chick-fil-a outside GothCon.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Nessus posted:

To what end?
Providing a steady stream of marketable intellectual property for Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. It's kind of a meta explanation.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG
I saw the D&D movie last night, and I have to say the thread sold it short - I know y'all were mostly favorable on it as a fantasy heist (which it's great at) and more critical of it as a reflection of Dungeons and Dragons, but I disagree. Let me break it down:

Good: As a standalone movie, this was drat good - the fantasy heist and action was great, and it was legit piss-your-pants funny in several sections. If you know D&D (especially Forgotten Realms), it's even better - I was consistently exactly one step ahead of the plot, which is right where you want to be for a heist. Minor spoiler examples: whether it's mechanical things, like "Time Stop? That's 9th level, what is she doing with these jagoffs-OH" or lore things like "Ooh I think that's Szass Tam, he...oh, it is, they're introducing him in this scene" I know the thread was discussing the game-ability of the scenes, and to that I say "D&D has never done that, recognize the pattern." Early 3e was being purpose-built to have Fighters and Rangers do the exact cool stunts Legolas did in the Lord of the Rings movies, and it sucked poo poo at emulating any of them, let alone all of them in a single character.

Mixed/Neutral: This was a very Dungeons & Dragons™ movie, and I'm putting this squarely into the "mixed" category. When you compare this to past D&D movies (or even most media tie-ins), this is great! That's not a generic evil wizard, it's a Red Wizard of Thay. Our party doesn't have a warrior, it has an Elk Tribe Barbarian. As a moviegoing experience, I love that - it's just the sort of thing I reflect on afterwards, tied in with the history of WotC and IP, and go "hmm" on.

Another point I feel is important to note, I think this did capture what it feels like to play D&D. Mostly. There were so many moments in the movie that made me think "yep, that's what playing a game is like" - we had the Session Zero character introduction (including the IC equivalent of the guy playing the Barbarian looking up from Smash Bros to say "yeah, all that sounds good, nothing to add"), we saw the group beeline straight past the plot to focus on a random NPC (forcing the DM to ad-lib a sidequest), and the party was a rolling farce disaster troupe like every group I've played with. Which leads directly into..

Bad: THIS WAS THE STRAIGHTEST D&D I'VE EVER SEEN.

In a time when gaming is an increasingly queer activity (thank gently caress), this film managed to surgically remove the "gay" part of the now-standard "disaster gay party" that is a D&D group. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that behind-the-scenes they used the Blizzard Diversity Calculator™; "Okay, we'll give the male lead a black wife (don't worry though we won't give her any lines) and have the female lead stan a short king, that should hit quota without us needing to include any scary gays that could hurt sales in China & Russia." gently caress, throw me a bone at least, if nothing else at the end the sorcerer hitting on the druid could have ended in a lean, whisper, "..ohhhhh" and I would have been happy (and probably laughed).

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Straighter than Conan the Destroyer?

Well, probably.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Halloween Jack posted:

Providing a steady stream of marketable intellectual property for Warner Bros. Discovery, Inc. It's kind of a meta explanation.

And now I'm reminded of Whatever Happened To The Caped Crusader establish that when Batman dies, he is reincarnated... as another world's Bruce Wayne, who inevitably becomes Batman.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
Oh God I'm so loving conflicted on how excited I am for the DnD movie. WotC has been poo poo lately, and I hate how much DnD dominates this market, but man, if I think about it, DnD and DnD novels are 100% what got me into this hobby.
It's like Star Wars; something that's been hosed over a lot recently by corporate bullshit, but the prospect of good stuff from it brings a childlike glee I have to accept.

Ominous Jazz
Jun 15, 2011

Big D is chillin' over here
Wasteland style
See it or don't

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Take no preconceptions into the film, it is just a film. Critique after the experience.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Just :filez: if you don't want to give money to Hasbro, no need for that kind of moral quandary.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
I am presently at the opening matinee for the movie, which starts in 25 minutes.

It's a work day, and a matinee, but my younger son and I are at this point the only people in the theater.

I believe I will decline the $35 commemorative d20 popcorn thingy.

EDIT - Two more people arrived. They did, in fact, get the popcorn d20.

Edit 2 - five more people, no more d20's

Final update - plenty of people now, who are better at estimating good arrival times lol

dwarf74 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 31, 2023

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
Sorry for the double post - fun movie overall, kinda long in a few points, and not all the gags hit, but the characters are reasonably fun overall and my kid and I had a drat good time.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
All of the Americans I play elfgames with are going this weekend. Hopefully there's enough titterpig nerds these days to keep the movie afloat.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Megazver posted:

titterpig

Why did you put this in my mind?

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Nuns with Guns posted:

Why did you put this in my mind?

I am pretty sure I've been implanted with this word here on SA.

But either way, you're welcome.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Better a titterpig than a quitterpig.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Hiro Protagonist posted:

Oh God I'm so loving conflicted on how excited I am for the DnD movie.

It's a good movie, both critics and fans agree.


Go see it and learn that now you're thinking with portals.

John Romero
Jul 6, 2003

John Romero got made a bitch
i bought final girl the other day and finally got a game in and it is good as hell might start a thread

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1642346485072429057?s=20

You know what I might actually watch this loving thing

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

I guess I never really thought about it before but because the western fantasy aesthetic and tropes are so divergent between the west and japan, even D&D and especially generic Forgotten Realms is probably reasonably fresh over there.

Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.
I am setting up an IRL game. I bit the bullet and decided to run 5e to get people. I plan to use Eberron. I got Rising from the Last War, Exploring Eberron, and Chronicles of Eberron. I got the PHB, DMG, and MM. What other must haves are there for 5e?

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

BattleMaster posted:

I guess I never really thought about it before but because the western fantasy aesthetic and tropes are so divergent between the west and japan, even D&D and especially generic Forgotten Realms is probably reasonably fresh over there.
Hell, if we’re on this subject, Monty Oum’s final project RWBY had a bigger audience in Japan than in its native US at one point,* because for as amateurish as it looks to us it is a least different from Extruded Isekai Show 40123-b or I Can’t Believe It’s Not Pedophilia: 3nd Season: Part Two.

*big enough to get an anime adaptation which brought together literally every big name I like in the industry and produced three good episodes, that were then followed up by nine insults to the very idea of television

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

AmiYumi posted:

Hell, if we’re on this subject, Monty Oum’s final project RWBY had a bigger audience in Japan than in its native US at one point,* because for as amateurish as it looks to us it is a least different from Extruded Isekai Show 40123-b or I Can’t Believe It’s Not Pedophilia: 3nd Season: Part Two.

*big enough to get an anime adaptation which brought together literally every big name I like in the industry and produced three good episodes, that were then followed up by nine insults to the very idea of television

As someone who fell off the RWBY train pretty hard, I'm curious. What went right with the first three that then went so, so wrong with the next nine?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Covok posted:

I am setting up an IRL game. I bit the bullet and decided to run 5e to get people. I plan to use Eberron. I got Rising from the Last War, Exploring Eberron, and Chronicles of Eberron. I got the PHB, DMG, and MM. What other must haves are there for 5e?

Monsters of the Multiverse gives a bunch of Monsters and Character Race options. Tasha's and Xanathar's are the primary player facing books that expand options. But for the most part you have more than enough material to run a good Eberron game.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Covok posted:

I am setting up an IRL game. I bit the bullet and decided to run 5e to get people. I plan to use Eberron. I got Rising from the Last War, Exploring Eberron, and Chronicles of Eberron. I got the PHB, DMG, and MM. What other must haves are there for 5e?

The 3.5 sourcebooks have a lot of cool setting and lore poo poo that's still usable in 5e. Might want to check out the Sharn book, at least?

neonchameleon
Nov 14, 2012



The Bee posted:

As someone who fell off the RWBY train pretty hard, I'm curious. What went right with the first three that then went so, so wrong with the next nine?

Monty Oum, the creator and director (and possibly most importantly the animation director), died in February 2015 part way through writing season 3.

neonchameleon
Nov 14, 2012



MonsterEnvy posted:

Monsters of the Multiverse gives a bunch of Monsters and Character Race options. Tasha's and Xanathar's are the primary player facing books that expand options. But for the most part you have more than enough material to run a good Eberron game.

The only things I'll add to this are that for the players Tasha's Cauldron of Everything gives some vastly needed upgrades to the ranger and the sorcerer, to use if your players are new. But that's all player side; if someone wants to play a ranger suggest they use the Tasha's upgrades (especially if they want a Beastmaster; the PHB version is an escort mission in a can) and if they want to play a sorcerer suggest Clockwork Soul, Aberrant Mind, Lunar (from Dragonlance) - or just give them an extra spell known per character level for free; it makes all the difference.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

neonchameleon posted:

Monty Oum, the creator and director (and possibly most importantly the animation director), died in February 2015 part way through writing season 3.

I think The Bee means "Why were the first 3 episodes of the anime good while the rest sucked?"

RWBY as a show is just bad across the board, albeit in different ways pre and post Monty.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

The Bee posted:

As someone who fell off the RWBY train pretty hard, I'm curious. What went right with the first three that then went so, so wrong with the next nine?
Urobochi Gen directed the first three, which were a streamlined adaptation of the first season of the original show. Someone else directed the rest, which was an original script - a way-too-deep dive into a single character’s dream/nightmare.

Demonstrating that you can make a snappy fast-paced action show, and you chose to make a dragged-out filler arc on purpose, is a helluva choice for your first season as a full-budget anime.

neonchameleon posted:

Monty Oum, the creator and director (and possibly most importantly the animation director), died in February 2015 part way through writing season 3.
That’s why the original had three good* seasons, not quite the same song but the melody’s familiar.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

AmiYumi posted:

Hell, if we’re on this subject, Monty Oum’s final project RWBY had a bigger audience in Japan than in its native US at one point,* because for as amateurish as it looks to us it is a least different from Extruded Isekai Show 40123-b or I Can’t Believe It’s Not Pedophilia: 3nd Season: Part Two.

This is a hosed up thing to say lol

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Countblanc posted:

This is a hosed up thing to say lol

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Yeah I don’t watch much anime but RWBY looked like Western team makes an anime to me

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
That's not really what I meant, but yes part of it is that rwby was really just shonen told by a western studio. It wasn't really original or novel in that way at all

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Can anyone identify this game?

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

feedmyleg posted:

Can anyone identify this game?


Tapestry

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Thank you! I'm making a board game for a couple friend's wedding and I wanted to figure out what they currently like playing without asking them.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

"...for you, it is all over...!"
3/6 of my Monster of the Week players had to bail last night, so we took the opportunity to try something different and one of the players tried his hand at the GM role for the first time. He did great and I had a great time playing Spirit of '77, I haven't actually been a player (IRL) in over a decade.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply