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TulliusCicero posted:Why archive Lore at all? He's an evil piece of poo poo who has never done one redeeming action in his life: it's why he's a great campy villain, but reactivate him?! Well, according to the son of Soong who was never mentioned before until the end of Picard season one, it was important to put all of those personalities together to let Data become a human. Because humanity has a fundamental capacity for evil inside every one of us that we have to grapple with. I guess?
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Lister posted:Well, according to the son of Soong who was never mentioned before until the end of Picard season one, it was important to put all of those personalities together to let Data become a human. Because humanity has a fundamental capacity for evil inside every one of us that we have to grapple with. I guess? Yeah, we already learned that in the transporter accident episode of TOS where Kirk gets split into good and evil.
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Apr 3, 2023 16:37
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TheCenturion posted:Yeah, we already learned that in the transporter accident episode of TOS where Kirk gets split into good and evil. Remember that wierd episode where Kirk switched bodies with his ex girlfriend who is also crazy and evil because she can't be a captain I guess because she is a FEMALE? ...that was really loving wierd.
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Apr 3, 2023 16:39
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Alright, I have to vent about what I found to be the dumbest, most obnoxious scene so far. Flashback: Picard is sitting down for a quiet fish and chips dinner when an entire squad of dipshit ensigns barge up to his table and start asking him inane questions about trivial details from one of his books. Picard initially just stares at them dumbfounded, and I was positive this was going to become a thinly-veiled riff on annoying Trekkies with Picard telling them to gently caress off and let him enjoy his meal in peace. Like, it's so obviously over-the-top stupid and rude to roll up on a retired admiral with this poo poo, it has to be a parody. But then... he just answers their questions and launches into an impromptu leadership lecture which Just So Happens to relate to the current crisis. And then when he tells Jack that he doesn't need any family other than Starfleet, the dipshit ensign brigade bursts into applause, instead of saying "wow, that's actually kind of hosed up". IDK, maybe I'm overthinking it as a bitter Navy guy, but that entire sequence just came across as wrong in every possible way.
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Apr 3, 2023 17:15
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I figured out how to fix Picard S3: put DataLore in Jurati's red dress from S2.
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Apr 3, 2023 17:32
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I'm gonna disagree with the idea that "the flashback relates to the current crisis" is a bad thing. The flashback itself has issues, but being relevant to the present situation isn't one of them. Jack trying to be cool by not introducing himself is my least favorite part, personally. That said, when Picard tells the cadets that he doesn't need any family other than Starfleet, I viewed that as him coping with the loss of his family back in Generations. "There will be no more Picards", remember? The flashback here also serves as a follow-up to that plot point, which the TNG movies and Picard S1-2 never adequately addressed.
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Lister posted:Well, according to the son of Soong who was never mentioned before until the end of Picard season one, it was important to put all of those personalities together to let Data become a human. Because humanity has a fundamental capacity for evil inside every one of us that we have to grapple with. I guess?  What? Is that really the reason? Please no, dear God no
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Apr 3, 2023 18:20
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TulliusCicero posted:Remember that wierd episode where Kirk switched bodies with his ex girlfriend who is also crazy and evil because she can't be a captain I guess because she is a FEMALE? And this is why it's weird when people nostalgia wank over TOS. TOS was full of 'hard men making hard choices' and 'grimdark' and plot holes and stupidity and all that other stuff. And I say that as somebody that grew up watching it, and still thinks it's the best Star Trek series.
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Apr 3, 2023 18:35
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As the saying goes, "79 episodes, about 30 good ones."
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Apr 3, 2023 18:40
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That's the solution! We Tuvix Jack and Datalore together into Jackalore! Jack and Data together can overpower the Lore inside!
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Apr 3, 2023 19:38
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Jackalore is way too close to inviting a Dave Coulier cameo
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Apr 3, 2023 19:52
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TulliusCicero posted:It's that hot wierd lady who impersonated Satan to a planet and wanted to make Picard her love slave Ardra. I loved the trope of “evil beautiful sorceress in a sequin gown for no good reason” that existed in the eighties. She and the evil lady from the Never Ending Story 2 are prime examples.
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angerbeet posted:Ardra. I loved the trope of “evil beautiful sorceress in a sequin gown for no good reason” that existed in the eighties. She and the evil lady from the Never Ending Story 2 are prime examples. I weirdly love that episode because of how goofy it is. It feels like a throwback TOS good episode.
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Apr 3, 2023 20:09
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TulliusCicero posted:I weirdly love that episode because of how goofy it is. It feels like a throwback TOS good episode. There's a few TNG episodes that really nail that vibe. There's a handful of episodes where they find some sort of space assholes that they deal with for 43 minutes and the conclusion is "well we'd better put up a warning beacon telling people to stay away from these assholes," and they all especially feel like that. "Where Silence Has Lease" springs immediately to mind.
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Apr 3, 2023 20:13
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Professor Beetus posted:There's a few TNG episodes that really nail that vibe. There's a handful of episodes where they find some sort of space assholes that they deal with for 43 minutes and the conclusion is "well we'd better put up a warning beacon telling people to stay away from these assholes," and they all especially feel like that. God, what if mysterious hand-head guy is actually Nagilum
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Apr 3, 2023 20:24
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Does Austin Powers exist in the Trek universe? They should really have Halloween episodes so we can get glimpses of the culture
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Apr 3, 2023 20:43
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Someone needs to drop a space rear end in a top hat beacon at Paramount+
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Apr 3, 2023 20:47
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Khanstant posted:Does Austin Powers exist in the Trek universe? They should really have Halloween episodes so we can get glimpses of the culture Lower Decks needs a seasonal Treehouse of Horror episode.
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Apr 3, 2023 21:01
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SCheeseman posted:Someone needs to drop a space rear end in a top hat beacon at Paramount+ That ship from Booby Trap, but instead of a power drain you have to listen to Terry's hot takes on Section 31
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Apr 3, 2023 21:14
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Technowolf posted:God, what if mysterious hand-head guy is actually Nagilum Maybe Nagilum is behind the creation of the show 'Picard.' His whole deal was wanting to slowly kill people in order to see what the pain process was like.
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Apr 3, 2023 21:26
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That would be the most logical explanation.
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Apr 3, 2023 21:28
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Remember the plot thread from four episodes ago where they were like "Why would a changeling impersonate the transporter chief of all people?" And then from three episodes ago where Ro was taking the shuttle because she didn't trust the transporters for some reason? And then was never mentioned or referenced again?
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Apr 3, 2023 22:01
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vadic also didn't want to use the transporters. i don't remember why specifically but there's probably still something going on there
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Yep, they mentioned it in the most recent episode. Of course, they still haven't said exactly why - another "mystery", I guess.
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I wonder what changelings think of Species 8472. They live in fluidic space! That's gotta be cool if you are a fluid.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Remember the plot thread from four episodes ago where they were like "Why would a changeling impersonate the transporter chief of all people?" And then from three episodes ago where Ro was taking the shuttle because she didn't trust the transporters for some reason? And then was never mentioned or referenced again? Thats how they were doing switcharoonies but IDK why vadic wouldn't want to take one.
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Beeftweeter posted:vadic also didn't want to use the transporters. i don't remember why specifically but there's probably still something going on there Which is so loving weird because the theory was that the Changelings were replacing people via transporter fuckery. But it's like, okay, if Vadic is also paranoid about the transporters and refuses to use them, then what the gently caress is going on here with them? Why are both sides of the secret war absolutely terrified of beaming technology all of the sudden?  It makes no goddamn sense.
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Apr 3, 2023 22:35
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 if this is Terry Matalas just playing with the old theory/joke that the transporter kills you so that's why everyone's suddenly so afraid of it
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nine-gear crow posted:Which is so loving weird because the theory was that the Changelings were replacing people via transporter fuckery. But it's like, okay, if Vadic is also paranoid about the transporters and refuses to use them, then what the gently caress is going on here with them? Why are both sides of the secret war absolutely terrified of beaming technology all of the sudden? it is pretty weird. it kinda feels like they might have had separate reasons to not want to use the transporters (i.e. humans might get replaced by changelings and meatbag changelings might get unstable, or something, idk). i'd love to know how much footage was cut off of this season or if it was really shot this way
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What even are the clues to the mystery of who the real bad guy is.
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Maybe the transporter is able to demeat the meatlings and it all gets very messy Anyway the big bad is the Ionians and that’s why no one trusts teleportation.
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Actual Satan posted:What even are the clues to the mystery of who the real bad guy is. - probably isn’t a changeling - hides identity from - hates Starfleet - some Collider reporter’s mom will be happy with the reveal, according to Terry These aren’t breadcrumbs, they’re more like bread… molecules.
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Actual Satan posted:What even are the clues to the mystery of who the real bad guy is. The clues in order so far are: Look, Terry really sucks at foreshadowing poo poo, okay...
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gently caress, SNW season 2 can't come soon enough. If only so I can look at Anson Mount some more 
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Bloody Pom posted:gently caress, SNW season 2 can't come soon enough. If only so I can look at Anson Mount some more Just three more weeks and then No More Bad Star Trek  Until Discovery shits out its final season, but after that, for real, No More Bad Star Trek Don't talk to me about Section 31, Starfleet Academy or Star Trek: Legacy, you hear me. No. More. Bad. Star. Trek 
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nine-gear crow posted:
Episodes 9 and 10 are under lock and key, so my sources have been incredibly vague, but ... while the reveal(s) are impressively stupid, it's not that.
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Man, what is up with the somehow-still-continuing trend of Trek actors’ twitters getting hacked? First it was bogus laptop giveaways, now Brent Spiner’s is dropping racial slurs. https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1642976103584378880?s=46&t=UMXTLv82i4yRGmbyk34alA
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Hijacking/redirecting transporter beams with a changeling clone and stuffing the victims in a perpetual buffer would conveniently allow everyone bodyswapped to survive so as to not threaten the show's franchise potential.
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lol that a show this relentless about cost-cutting with bottle episodes would want to avoid a plot device invented specifically because of budget restrictions
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Man, what is up with the somehow-still-continuing trend of Trek actors’ twitters getting hacked? First it was bogus laptop giveaways, now Brent Spiner’s is dropping racial slurs. "Hacked" is code for "fell for a phishing scam."
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