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Pope Corky the IX posted:It was about as nudge-nudge as getting hit with a sledgehammer. Yes, which is how Cody does everything. But that kind of thing he can hide behind being the gimmick. I definitely recall him being very diplomatic outside of literal promos and such.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:It was about as nudge-nudge as getting hit with a sledgehammer. no no it was a subtle sledgehammer
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TV Zombie posted:So everything is back to the way it was, in wwe Then Now Forever
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Gaz-L posted:Yes, which is how Cody does everything. But that kind of thing he can hide behind being the gimmick. I definitely recall him being very diplomatic outside of literal promos and such. I know wrestlers who use subtext, and they’re all cowards.
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Gaz-L posted:The first part is... not true, though? He was always very careful not to poo poo-talk WWE outside of nudge-nudge stuff like the throne entrance. The Bucks mentioned in their book that in AEW he'd poo poo-talk WWE and talk about going to war with them constantly backstage and way more than any of them/while they and Kenny wouldn't really go out of their way to check in on how they were doing in the first place outside of seeing stuff on Twitter. Which was funny because he'd seemed more unsure than even they were of what to do before AEW started; WWE talked with the Bucks and Kenny separately and each were debating between whether to do WWE or try starting AEW. By their own admission Cody changed his mind on "stay with ROH, or start AEW, or crawl back to WWE" almost daily and didn't commit till a month or so before the announcement was made
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like even before the throne Cody was giving shoot interviews about creative was jerking him around constantly and treated him like poo poo. dude very clearly outlined that he thought wwe was run by assholes and he hated working there by the end and then he went back, lmao
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Gaz-L posted:The first part is... not true, though? He was always very careful not to poo poo-talk WWE outside of nudge-nudge stuff like the throne entrance. Throne entrance, golden shovel, that time he attacked Jericho in the private box and was like "we don't have invisible walls here", the times during his now retroactive heel run where he kept teasing a Pedigree. Plus on BTE wasn't he always the one doing the voices that were supposed to be parodies of HHH and Vince or whatever? Where they'd come up with dumb gimmicks for everybody and laugh at how smart they were. If I was still a WWE fan I'd probably twist my brain around trying to say this is all part of a carefully scripted plan to make Cody an underdog. But nah, it's just really funny and dumb like 99.9% of things from WWE. I'm also growing more confident that Cody will be back in AEW before his career's over at this rate.
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Don't feel one bit sorry for Cody, he's making a lot of money to get humiliated by Vince. It'd be like feeling sorry for HHH.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Interesting that there were no debuts at all over WM weekend. Hopefully this means that Jay White has dodged a bullet. Well yeah Jay White's gonna have to put in 2 years in NXT baby
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The most frustrating thing about WWE is when you get moments like KO and Sami vs the Usos or Daniel Bryan at WM30 and you see what the company is really capable of with its insane roster + huge budget + wide reach, and then they just deliberately choose to not do that 98% of the time.
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is pepsi ok posted:The most frustrating thing about WWE is when you get moments like KO and Sami vs the Usos or Daniel Bryan at WM30 and you see what the company is really capable of with its insane roster + huge budget + wide reach, and then they just deliberately choose to not do that 98% of the time. I mean KOSZ vs the Usos was very deliberately an example of part of that 98%.
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Its fun to think about what Cody was thinking. Like was the idea in his tattoo ink frazzled brain "oh, hunter and vince saw my anthony ogogo program, they'll accept me as their equal"
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is pepsi ok posted:The most frustrating thing about WWE is when you get moments like KO and Sami vs the Usos or Daniel Bryan at WM30 and you see what the company is really capable of with its insane roster + huge budget + wide reach, and then they just deliberately choose to not do that 98% of the time. HHH wasn't perfect as the head guy and Sami should've beaten Roman, but yeah, that's an example of them doing a storyline that people liked with a payoff that made folks happy and allowed a bunch of talented guys time to shine. The product wasn't the best but under HHH it was a lot better than before. And that's super clear when you see Vince coming back and making that episode which is one of the worst episodes of the show ever. Vince is the biggest issue the company has and it will never get better while he's around, and it looks like he's gonna be around until he dies.
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projecthalaxy posted:Its fun to think about what Cody was thinking. Like was the idea in his tattoo ink frazzled brain "oh, hunter and vince saw my anthony ogogo program, they'll accept me as their equal" It's almost certainly as simple as he really did think working through the tit tear would endear himself to/win over at least one of them, and it absolutely did not because why would it
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The Zayn and Owens/Usos match was so good. Probably the last good thing wwe will do for a long time.
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WWE loves having the face lose multiple times against a heel champ to the point that when they finally win the audience doesn't care anymore. That's good poo poo pal!
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Chris James 2 posted:It's almost certainly as simple as he really did think working through the tit tear would endear himself to/win over at least one of them, and it absolutely did not because why would it As with WWE fans, wrestlers are also prone to "... yeah but this time will be different!"
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I am a little curious how Endeavor/TKO is going to change the product going forward. I know they said nothing would change but they said that about UFC too and that was a lie. New branding? Sponsored gear? We're definitely going back to $60 ppvs.
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NienNunb posted:The Zayn and Owens/Usos match was so good. Probably the last good thing wwe will do for a long time. It was great, as were the women’s singles matches and the IC triple threat. The main event was a fantastic match as well, out of context.
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Blooming Brilliant posted:As with WWE fans, wrestlers are also prone to "... yeah but this time will be different!" Minutes before, Shane reenacted Vince's quad blowout to emphasize that getting hurt happens to everyone and is nothing special. The McMahons and God spelled this out as clear as they could for him
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They let Sami and KO win cause it’s the tag titles and they don’t give a gently caress about those. They’ll just wrestle the Usos a million time cause who else is a tag team? Yea.
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kinetic77 posted:https://twitter.com/_kennythoughts/status/1643088011452710914?s=46&t=Fg-yEjTwRcVeueE1WyZjkQ lmao
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last 48 hours have been unbelievable, never would I have seen this big of a fumble after how high everyone was on WM Night 1. From the UFC sale to Vince being confirmed chairman to Cody losing and then getting demolished by Brock to confirming Vince made late Raw changes. Just been a rollercoaster of the most hideous kind lol.
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Invalid Validation posted:They let Sami and KO win cause it’s the tag titles and they don’t give a gently caress about those. They’ll just wrestle the Usos a million time cause who else is a tag team? Yea. The street profits, it seems. The match was fun imo.
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explosivo posted:I would love to see WWE try to sell 13 $60 I don't think they do 13 But they're absolutely doing at least 4 (Rumble, Mania, Survivor Series, Summerslam) and I can easily see them justifying it for the blood money shows too
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I would love to see the conversation between Vince and MBS after the 11 AM on Friday PPV does 7 buys.
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Chris James 2 posted:I don't think they do 13 Charging for the tentpoles and making everything else free on whatever streaming service makes a lot of sense but they’d have to do some real heavy lifting to make survivor series into a tentpole again because who the gently caress cares about that show anymore
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History Comes Inside! posted:Charging for the tentpoles and making everything else free on whatever streaming service makes a lot of sense but they’d have to do some real heavy lifting to make survivor series into a tentpole again because who the gently caress cares about that show anymore B...but it's the one time each year Raw and Smackdown stars compete!
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It’s about Brand Supremacy maggle
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So if Endeavor applies the same pricing model as they do to UFC, itll look something like this UFC on Fox, ESPN UFC ≈ Raw, Smackdown; costs whatever cable or cable substitute does ESPN+ ≈ Peacock, $10 a month or $100 a year, archives and midlevel events UFC Numbered Events ≈ WWE PPVs, 12x$70 per year, must be a ESPN+/Peacock subscriber to even have the privilege to purchase such an event
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Gaz-L posted:The first part is... not true, though? He was always very careful not to poo poo-talk WWE outside of nudge-nudge stuff like the throne entrance. cmon...
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Gaz-L posted:The first part is... not true, though? He was always very careful not to poo poo-talk WWE outside of nudge-nudge stuff like the throne entrance. "He never took shots at WWE, except for the very obvious times when he did" 
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Davros1 posted:https://twitter.com/DMcIntyreWWE/status/1642703010601242626?t=soToSZ6bQhJMD4ujme3ptA&s=19 I would like one Drew Galloway and one Pam, yes, please, thank you.
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projecthalaxy posted:I am a little curious how Endeavor/TKO is going to change the product going forward. I know they said nothing would change but they said that about UFC too and that was a lie. New branding? Sponsored gear? We're definitely going back to $60 ppvs. My guesses are: PPV model is back either in whole or just the big 4 Much more brand synergy like the Cinnamon toast crunch or prime stuff at mania Just more general product placements More superstars cutting ads or just mentioning products in promos. More segments "sponsored by X" Lot more ads throughout the show. Crossovers with UFC (Not just doing ads for the up coming show but having fighters at or even involved in the show to cross promote. It's Vince so probably have like Usman or Izzy hang out with Apollo. Things like that) Idk about new gear but I could see sponsors on gear
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