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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1643333875790118913?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw What's a protection order for discovery?
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given that trump has a rally scheduled tomorrow, it seems like limiting his posting on social media isn't going to stop his vocal complaints about someone ridding him of this turbulent judge
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Apr 4, 2023 20:34
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Maybe having your underlings post pics of the judge's kids isn't a good thing.
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Apr 4, 2023 20:39
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cr0y posted:What's a protection order for discovery? Some of the discovered materials could be available to review by Trump but under circumstances controlled by the state. Seems the defense is at least a little amenable to that.
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And here we go : https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf
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All 34 are the standard thing, but to aid and conceal a crime. There's the rub, aye
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mdemone posted:All 34 are the standard thing, but to aid and conceal a crime. Ugh now the cliffhanger is that we won't get to find out what crimes he was aiding or concealing until next season
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mdemone posted:All 34 are the standard thing, but to aid and conceal a crime. Yeah I just did a quick but thorough skim : all 34 are falsifying business records in the first degree and point to an invoice, a ledger entry or some combination of checks/stubs. Seems like a pretty comprehensive map of a bunch of money changing hands illegally, with it all in the furtherance of an unspecified crime. I'm assuming anything spicy is gonna be part of aforementioned ??? crime, but I was skimming pretty hard so I wasn't looking at anything besides what I already wrote about.
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Good god this poo poo moves SO loving SLOW
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Apr 4, 2023 20:51
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SPOILER: He did not refrain from social media posts
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mdemone posted:All 34 are the standard thing, but to aid and conceal a crime. They didn't charge him with whatever underlying crimes are being aided and concealed, so I assume the underlying crimes must be federal and not something the state can charge him on?
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cr0y posted:Good god this poo poo moves SO loving SLOW My take is that Manhattan got slotted first because it can develop discovery of crimes in furtherance of election fraud, which can still be shown despite the late date
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cr0y posted:What's a protection order for discovery? It means that Trump can't disclose information in public or harass/name witnesses involved in the case who he learns of from discovery in the case.
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and the claw won! posted:They didn't charge him with whatever underlying crimes are being aided and concealed, so I assume the underlying crimes must be federal and not something the state can charge him on? Somebody get me Jack Smith's special order
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Apr 4, 2023 20:57
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Trump should thank the DA because they determined in their investigation that the doorman at Trump tower who was paid $30,000 to not talk to anyone about a child Trump had out of wedlock was not true. Also, he apparently mailed the checks for the hush money. It would be very funny if he used USPS.
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Apr 4, 2023 21:01
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plenty of time for trump to violate "don't post badly on the internet"
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Failed Imagineer posted:SPOILER: He did not refrain from social media posts What did he post?
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At this rate, people will be voting while the trial is going on.
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Zotix posted:What did he post? Bethamphetamine posted:TROOF
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Here's a video of Taylor Greene leaving https://twitter.com/MichaelRapaport/status/1643288461657493505
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Zotix posted:What did he post? 
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Ither posted:Here's a video of Taylor Greene leaving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq0n8dplrsw
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Who in the world and why in the world was someone recording this?!?quote:In a conversation captured in an audio recording in approximately September lol at Trump trying to cheap out on payment even on hush money: quote:Trump told Cohen "if they could delay the payment until after the election, they could avoid paying altogether, because at that point it would not matter if the story became public. " quote:"The Defendant thanked the AMI CEO for handling the stories of the Doorman and Woman 1, and If they have any physical evidence of this, then that could be bad for Trump. Not sure if this is based on testimony or not, though. quote:"In the months that followed, the Defendant and others engaged in a public
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Judge is scraeming "LOG OFF" at my arraignment. show yourself, coward. i will never log off
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Ither posted:Here's a video of Taylor Greene leaving This is the best thing I have ever seen.
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Madkal posted:Maybe having your underlings post pics of the judge's kids isn't a good thing. Having a good laugh thinking about Trump referring to his own children as underlings.
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InsertPotPun posted:well that doesn't make any sense, trump's spent years in new york why would they hate him??? and he's best friends with NY's favorite mayor, Rudy Giuliani!
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Who in the world and why in the world was someone recording this?!? Lol So... if Trump had actually Trumped fully and not paid... he would be... scott free on this? Because no money fraudulently changed hands if he never paid her? Might have been sued for breach of contract if there was any paper trail for that but like he said the story could have gone full public in 2017 and Trump would have been fine ie: He's going to jail for actually paying money for once.
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mdemone posted:My take is that Manhattan got slotted first because it can develop discovery of crimes in furtherance of election fraud, which can still be shown despite the late date I don't think there's any discovery at this point.
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V-Men posted:I don't think there's any discovery at this point. There's been an investigation by the DA and the Manhattan police in relation to the grand jury. But the discovery has been more limited than it will be in the lead up to the trial.
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December 4th is unfortunately very, very far from now. Perhaps other indictments will drop in the meantime.
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and the claw won! posted:They didn't charge him with whatever underlying crimes are being aided and concealed, so I assume the underlying crimes must be federal and not something the state can charge him on? My understanding is that the statute of limitations has already passed for the campaign finance violations so they couldn't charge him for those.
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Ynglaur posted:December 4th is unfortunately very, very far from now. Perhaps other indictments will drop in the meantime. Maybe not the special counsel investigation, but one would think there would be movement on the GA case.
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Ynglaur posted:December 4th is unfortunately very, very far from now. Perhaps other indictments will drop in the meantime. I don't think there's any real chance a later indictment will go to trial before this one does. Simplex posted:My understanding is that the statute of limitations has already passed for the campaign finance violations so they couldn't charge him for those. I'm not sure. Yes, those seem to be typically 5 years, but taking any action to further them restarts the clock.
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FWIW Evan Perez on CNN saying the DoJ investigation is gaining momentum and the feeling is that soon, the DoJ will need to make a decision. Well before he's next to appear in court for the NY charges that the DoJ will announce on the classified documents probe.
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Zotix posted:FWIW Evan Perez on CNN saying the DoJ investigation is gaining momentum and the feeling is that soon, the DoJ will need to make a decision. Well before he's next to appear in court for the NY charges that the DoJ will announce on the classified documents probe. Considering he stated in an interview this week that "Yeah I took those classified documents with the intent to sell them back to the government later" I can believe it lol.
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Zotix posted:FWIW Evan Perez on CNN saying the DoJ investigation is gaining momentum and the feeling is that soon, the DoJ will need to make a decision. Well before he's next to appear in court for the NY charges that the DoJ will announce on the classified documents probe. They could charge him in 7.5 months and it would still be before he’s due to appear in court again for NY.
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