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Mylan posted:Either mind powers are the ultimate force in the Star Trek universe, or they're living in a simulated reality. Please don't pull the Star Ocean 3 twist in Star Trek, I will flip this table
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Yeah I don't personally buy the simulated reality theory myself, but it does kinda fit. I could see Q not as an avatar for an outside entity, but rather more like an NPC who realized the nature of the universe and got access to the source code. They can manipulate their own realty as they please, but can't access the outer, true reality without outside help. Like if Skynet existed on a single PC in a locked room with no internet access, it's free to rage against humans all it wants but powerless to do anything on it's own.
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In Star Trek: For Children, does the main character have some sort of future skateboard
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zoux posted:In Star Trek: For Children, does the main character have some sort of future skateboard No, he has a growing understanding of the ideals that starfleet is supposed to represent.
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Delsaber posted:Please don't pull the Star Ocean 3 twist in Star Trek, I will flip this table I remember liking that game. Then again, I smoked a ton of weed in college so my memory of it might not be perfect.
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So I’m watching Wrath of Khan yesterday, and when he says, ”Let them eat static,” I thought, is there any — say, 18-year-old — that would understand the reference to static?
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bull3964 posted:I mean, brainwaves are a measurable, electrical, phenomenon. So, I don't really find any cognitive dissonance in that. Sure, it's a leap to say some other species is able to not only defect those waves at a distance AND interpret a completely alien mind, but we don't have to look at it as magic. You can come up with anything you want, really. Because take it from someone so enamored with Star Trek and other sci-fi that they took it upon themselves to actually learn deeply how it all works - Star Trek is not science. We will never have transporters, we cannot travel faster than the speed of light, and you can't travel through wormholes. So you might as well just do what makes for the best stories, and justify it with space magic, because that's what it is. And that's fine, because it does indeed make for some great stories. And let's be honest, tons of BIJ as well.
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This is some good Star Trek poo poo posting https://twitter.com/NoContextTrek/status/1160186486219771904?t=LaXi2MtHhDyyPW9Qjt7pjw&s=19
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If we're being honest, it's mostly BIJ yes. we are ugly bags of mostly BIJ
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mllaneza posted:Twenty four Federation member species right here,
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CainFortea posted:Because they're bigots fam. They think "solids" are inferior life forms and so when they have to be in some humanoid shape they prefer to be in one that doesn't look like the others. It also serves to drive the point home to Odo, with no subtlety whatsoever, that they are his true people and the solids will never be, no matter how he tries to fit in.
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Mylan posted:There seems to be a running theme in TNG that the mind is more closely related to time and space than we realize. The first time the Traveler shows up, he takes them to a part of the universe where everyone's thoughts start to manifest themselves into reality. Then later when Beverly is trapped in the warp bubble the Traveler explains to Wesley that his calculations arent the impprtant part, they just help him focus his power. The real kicker is in "All Good Things" when Q's whole lesson to Picard was to get him to briefly realize the paradox and in that moment his mind was open to new possibilities and that THAT was the real final frontier. This is coming from a God like being who can alter reality on a whim. It was a really, really popular idea back in the day that psychic powers were just around the corner and there was some kind of infinite potential in the mind. I guess it was also part of how there was a lot more hopefulness in general over the infinite potential of what the near future would hold that has since bottomed out. I think the idea died out (or at least greatly reduced in prominence) from a combination of the public losing attention and from the fact that so much of the former interest was driven by a number of fraudulent sources that have since been disgraced and debunked. So there's a lot of awkwardness about old IPs from back in the day that invested big into psychic powers and have to figure out what to do with them in the present day. It's a lot harder with X-Men. Star Trek can much more easily just...choose not to deal with the weirder aspects of Vulcans. Nobody's gonna make them write in plots about mind melds and Vulcan souls if they don't want to. Everybody seems perfectly willing to forget about Sybok and everything else from The Final Frontier.
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thotsky posted:Was there ever a joke or something in DS9 about a Vedek checking the Pagh of a Ferengi? Walk with the profits.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This is what peak performance looks like He does okay and means well.
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zoux posted:In Star Trek: For Children, does the main character have some sort of future skateboard He sure does act and talk like he does a lot of the time.
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zoux posted:In Star Trek: For Children, does the main character have some sort of future skateboard That's more of a star wars rebels thing
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The Pegasus was good. "I made you, Will Riker, and I can break you just as easily!"
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Sash! posted:Also I dare you to say anything on TV other than "pinkskin." Shran: "You pinkskins are all the same!' Travis:  Lincoln posted:So I’m watching Wrath of Khan yesterday, and when he says, ”Let them eat static,” I thought, is there any — say, 18-year-old — that would understand the reference to static? It works on a meta level too, since presumably any of Khan's 20th century followers would get it, but since they are all dead and his current gang are their kids raised on Ceti Alpha V, the people who hear him wouldn't get the reference, and neither would Kirk or any of the 23rd century folks. In fact, living with Khan would be confusing as hell, as he would just be constantly spewing 70s-90s pop culture references and ancient literary allusions and the kids would have zero clue what he was talking about. If Harve Bennett's Khan series gets off the ground maybe they will explore this.
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Astroman posted:If Harve Bennett's Khan series gets off the ground maybe they will explore this. I, uh, have some bad news about Harve Bennett.
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Brawnfire posted:I want to see some future hybrid race where all the Trek aliens came together as one species with a massive crenellated forehead, gigantic coralesque ears, a nose like a folded towel, and some kind of hellish pink-blue-green vitiligo Not exactly that but I did like in Enterprise when they asked Daniels if he was Human was like 'uhhh, mostly'. mllaneza posted:Twenty four Federation member species right here, JANEWAY: "Is he genetically engineered? Yes. Was he enhanced in every way? Look at him. Of course not." Harsh but true, Kathy. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Apr 5, 2023 |
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Astroman posted:Shran: "You pinkskins are all the same!' Enterprise writer's room: Sorry, who?
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Lincoln posted:So I’m watching Wrath of Khan yesterday, and when he says, ”Let them eat static,” I thought, is there any — say, 18-year-old — that would understand the reference to static? Static still exists and is a factor in any kind of radio telecommunication. Maybe a lot of kids these days wouldn't necessarily be exposed to broadcast television or radio but they still exist and some people will be exposed to them instead of solely experiencing internet content distribution. Walkie-talkies and CB radio also exist, and there's a lot of places that use them. Most relevant is in schoolbusses.
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SlothfulCobra posted:It was a really, really popular idea back in the day that psychic powers were just around the corner and there was some kind of infinite potential in the mind. I guess it was also part of how there was a lot more hopefulness in general over the infinite potential of what the near future would hold that has since bottomed out. An excellent, well-written point, punctuated at the very end by a hilariously wrong example. 
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Enterprise writer's room: Sorry, who? “Ah, gently caress it just make him die via a console explosion in the first 15 seconds of the episode.” Twilight is a good episode, but goddamn was that a hilarious cop out for not having to write in Travis. Lol
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Lincoln posted:So I’m watching Wrath of Khan yesterday, and when he says, ”Let them eat static,” I thought, is there any — say, 18-year-old — that would understand the reference to static? More concerning, do today's youth not get Steely Dan's "FM"?
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HD DAD posted:“Ah, gently caress it just make him die via a console explosion in the first 15 seconds of the episode.” And not even remark on it! Watching that ep, I was like "Wait, was that Travis?" There's a part of me that wants to say Anthony Montgomery was the weakest link of the main cast of ENT, but was that because he was, or because he was never given a chance? 
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No he was truly a terrible actor, probably the worst main cast member in any trek in terms of acting ability
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Powered Descent posted:An excellent, well-written point, punctuated at the very end by a hilariously wrong example. What, did Sybok come back in Picard to turn some water into wine?
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SlothfulCobra posted:What, did Sybok come back in Picard to turn some water into wine? Wrong show.
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SlothfulCobra posted:What, did Sybok come back in Picard to turn some water into wine? You'd have explore strange new worlds to find him. Go boldly.
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zoux posted:No he was truly a terrible actor, probably the worst main cast member in any trek in terms of acting ability He was underused from the beginning, but you can tell they cut his material way further back after his one leading episode with his space boomer family. It was high school theatre production bad, and the guest stars were just running circles around him. Any further Travis material usually involved him being greased up and shirtless with minimal lines. Or dead.
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HD DAD posted:He was underused from the beginning, but you can tell they cut his material way further back after his one leading episode with his space boomer family. It was high school theatre production bad, and the guest stars were just running circles around him.
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So my conspiracy theory about that is that Archer's supposed to be this Important Historical Figure, but Trip's cooler by every metric, so they killed Trip off to preserve Archer supremacy. Personally I'm okay with the idea that Jonathan Archer, Important Historical Figure, was actually kind of a doofus nepo-baby, because that's how history frequently *is*, but Berman and Braga were not that smart.
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Creating an Excel spreadsheet of every character death in TOS to see if they really do wear red shirts more often than not.
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Oh wow Reboot. Drop a game cube over a planet and an entire civilisation will be destroyed if Picard can't win 3D chess against Moriarty.
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Prurient Squid posted:Creating an Excel spreadsheet of every character death in TOS to see if they really do wear red shirts more often than not. Unsurprisingly, it's been done. https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/database/redshirt_deaths.htm (If clicking directly through doesn't work, just copy-paste the address to a new tab. I think EAS is still blocking Something Awful as a referrer.)
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Not all redshirt deaths stick, though; Leslie and Galloway both came back (Galloway after being vaporised!). Unexplained resurrection isn't just for senior officers.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Everybody seems perfectly willing to forget about Sybok and everything else from The Final Frontier. Strange New Worlds is an actually good show that you should consider watching!
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If SNW follows the traditional path of Star Trek Series quality growth, Pike is gonna grow a beard in season 3 and it's going to be the best season of television in history
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Kesper North posted:Strange New Worlds is an actually good show that you should consider watching! It is very good, especially for a first season
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