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So it turns out the Star Citizen grift isn't unique but it seems to be the very first branch of the metaverse scam to get started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZhdpLXZ8Q
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Apr 4, 2023 06:04
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https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeavyInconsequentialAcaciarat-mobile.mp4
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Apr 4, 2023 06:31
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 reading this thread and making that afterwards are absolutely preferable to me convincing myself to start work for the day. Cutedge posted:I'm not sure how anyone is going to get through to them. The rest of them are just burning out because after the third or fourth time you hear that the world is going to end, and it doesn't end, you just say gently caress it. One of the most important things that will come out of monocle cat guy (and one of the reasons I'm unironically glad that mirificus reports on his wordwalls) is because whether or not monocle cat guy realizes it, he's all set to be a case study on what happens when prophecy fails — what actually happens to people's minds? What do they do to themselves? How do they act out? At a certain level of obsession or complete concomitant life structuring around stuff like religion, cryptocurrency, twitch egirls, or the upcoming dream game days of lording over an idris full of player character pawns, you build up walls of cognitive dissonance that are genuinely physically painful to endure the breaking of, so you do anything you can to ward off the (again literal) pain. My own guess involving monocle cat boy is that he will respond similar to how fans of celebrities or makers of creative works (book series, etc) act when they end up feeling jilted by that individual or by the product they make. It's similar to BPD 'splitting' — right now, mr. monocle cat is an obsessive diehard who will vehemently defend and cheerlead his obsession at length. When they reach a certain burnout point, a threshold where the dream obviously isn't happening? They split hard on the former subject of their adoration and become extremely obsessive and bombastic detractors. They absolutely flip their poo poo.
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Apr 4, 2023 11:36
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Cutedge posted:Ah yes, the infamous "secret patch that will fix the game" like I've heard from every jank mmo. Definitely coming true here. Guys they have 20 times as much content, but they have to keep it a secret because spoilers. Also, how does one follow SQ42 E1 "closely"? They literally haven't said anything substantive about Squadron 42 in like 4 years.
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Apr 4, 2023 13:32
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Fidelitious posted:Also, how does one follow SQ42 E1 "closely"? They literally haven't said anything substantive about Squadron 42 in like 4 years. In their imagination lol
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Apr 4, 2023 13:33
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Fidelitious posted:Also, how does one follow SQ42 E1 "closely"? They literally haven't said anything substantive about Squadron 42 in like 4 years. By carefully reading between the lines, after long eons of learning to read what was unwritten, hear what was unspoken, see that which is unseen, and carefully archiving every scrap of information uttered by the prophet Chris of the Roberts, or his most loyal of disciples. Taking those scraps of wisdom, and placing them onto a board, and using string to show how each utterance is linked to others, how screenshots or videos showing that which is not visible to the players is actually all tied together. IT'S ALL TIED TOGETHER! 
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Apr 4, 2023 13:50
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Fidelitious posted:Also, how does one follow SQ42 E1 "closely"? They literally haven't said anything substantive about Squadron 42 in like 4 years. Look, I'm not saying you're not even trying, but if you actually had made an effort to read between the lines for the past 500 years you would know that the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards. Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will. Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect. However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps. Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection. All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever. Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed. Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable. Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average. Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule. Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed. The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire
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Apr 4, 2023 14:21
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:So it turns out the Star Citizen grift isn't unique but it seems to be the very first branch of the metaverse scam to get started: Star Citizen is weird because it’s the last holdover from the original video game Kickstarter gold rush that predates the crypto-bro metaverse grift. It comes more from the perennial dream of a life simulator MMO that goes back to the 90’s. But of course there is a lot of crossover in both communities of rubes (see Montoya’s space bucks scheme). So you get Citizens begging CIG to become some even worse play to earn grift complete with Crobbler-coin and NFT spaceships, all so CIG can just milk them even more. It’s beautiful. But unfortunately CIG has stayed completely silent on the topic. I doubt Chris can wrap his bulbous head around what crypto even is, and he may even be just smart enough to want to avoid the torrent of negative headlines that would follow. In any case trying to graft crypto onto their pile of spaghetti code would probably never work. But I still secretly hope that CIG tries to get into crypto, just for the hilarity that would ensue.
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Apr 4, 2023 15:45
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colonelwest posted:Star Citizen is weird because it’s the last holdover from the original video game Kickstarter gold rush that predates the crypto-bro metaverse grift. It comes more from the perennial dream of a life simulator MMO that goes back to the 90’s. But of course there is a lot of crossover in both communities of rubes (see Montoya’s space bucks scheme). So you get Citizens begging CIG to become some even worse play to earn grift complete with Crobbler-coin and NFT spaceships, all so CIG can just milk them even more. It’s beautiful. Crypto and NFTs weren't around in the late 80s, and they didn't feature in the movies Chris steals from, so I think SC is safe enough from them as long as he's in charge. Which is a kind of twisted irony.
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Apr 4, 2023 17:08
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pisshead posted:It's about immersion rather than convenience. One of the best aspects of WoW compared to MMOs that came before (and after) is that you could walk or fly from one end of a continent to the other with no loading screen. Makes little difference to gameplay but is huge for worldbuilding. Physicalised elevators in SC would be really impressive, if you could look out the window and see the world outside, and if SC's planets and cities didn't look like poo poo. The tram would be cool if you were passing actual city rather than dead space, and if the city didn't look like poo poo. Asheron's Call did that even better because the different zones didn't have hard demarcations like WoW. RIP old-rear end game that had other design flaws and released six months after EQ.
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Apr 4, 2023 17:13
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 I think I know somewhere else 'the spirit of Freelancer' lives on (though not in a good way). 
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Apr 4, 2023 17:24
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Randalor posted:... I smell burnt toast after reading that. Guys guys! You remember MoMA? Rumor has it he is Toast. Feel free to quote the poo poo out of this.
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Apr 4, 2023 17:34
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MedicineHut posted:Guys guys! You remember MoMA? Rumor has it he is Toast. Feel free to quote the poo poo out of this. hosed up if true
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Apr 4, 2023 17:35
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Kibner posted:Asheron's Call did that even better because the different zones didn't have hard demarcations like WoW. RIP old-rear end game that had other design flaws and released six months after EQ.  * they destroyed a major town in the first year of the game, just blew it entirely off the map.
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Apr 4, 2023 18:10
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the server's been going out repeatedly; apparently Object Persistence still doesn't play nice in april
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Apr 4, 2023 18:13
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Zero_Grade posted:Man I loved that game. If you wanted, you could just gently caress off and start running across the world, which people did just to see what was out there (this was back in the day before everything got discovered and spoiled ten seconds after a release). The monthly patches that advanced the story while changing the world*, the complex and constantly changing politics of pvp, even the janky combat was fun because of how you could use the glitchiness to your advantage. RIP indeed to a real one. R.I.P. Yanshi. Man that brings back memories of years that I didn't know at the time would never come again. Went to the 1998 E3 in Atlanta, I somehow got in with a developer pass and waltzed right past all the entrance queues, and got special access to the developers and their private rooms. I saw so many things that would become history. I saw the early release of Thief: The Dark Project. Got a private viewing of a game called Armorgeddon, a tank battler that would release as Tanarus. It used an engine that they were repurposing to make a fantasy game of some kind. They let us play some demos in an arena, you could make a High Elf, human, and a few other things, and run around in this shared space and see each other in first person, and do basic combat. Both of these games were made by a little company called Verant, which would move the engine forward shortly later with an obscure title called Everquest. Got to meet many developers and talk to them. Richard Garriott, John Smedley, but the one that stands out to me most is Roberta Williams. Just so nice and just a happy, talented person who was far smaller than I thought. There were tons of companies all pushing the envelope in different ways. Some of them were hawking terrain generators - look at our dynamic water, vegetation, etc. and here's how you can put this in your games. Other companies were working on getting voice talk up and running in a time where many people were still stuck on dial-up connections, and even broadband wasn't much. The gold standard for the truly connected or the big companies was the T1, running at a whopping 1.5 Mbps, about 100 times slower than the average household connection today. So much more than I can type here. I feel like I witnessed the incubation and early birth of so many of the most pivotal moments for PC gaming, an age that would inform the following decades. And I had no idea. I thought all of the E3 shows were the same. Now E3 is a memory, but if what it degenerated into is all I've heard, I think I prefer the memory of the one I had the incredible luck to attend. One filled with tons of developers having fun, sharing ideas, and looking to the horizon that felt so open, and that anything was possible. Also for some reason the members of KISS were walking around looking bored. Scruffpuff fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Apr 4, 2023 |
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Apr 4, 2023 18:53
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Sardonik posted:
It's almost here! I bought this in EA played a few hours of it, really enjoyed it and decided to wait for full release.
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Apr 4, 2023 18:55
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I like how ES2 kept the silly temporary robot voice overs.
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Apr 4, 2023 19:09
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https://twitter.com/real_lethality/status/1643334612104491008 At least we still have Lethality being Lethality
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Apr 4, 2023 22:37
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And still trying to kill Pax Dei
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Monocle Cat posted:We are very fortunate to have someone of Tony Zurovec's vision and experience. Ah yes, someone who last made a game when you had configure conventional memory to free up space for a mouse driver is the goto guy on a giant life simulation. One of the funnier things to think about something like this massive world full of NPCs and quanta, is thinking what happens when things go wrong. Bethesda has talked about in Oblivion having the Radiant AI go wrong and having a town turn into a massive brawl because a character got hungry and then robbed someone of an apple. Imagine the entire port of Hurston or whatever just clearing out because every AI decided that it would be best if they walked into the wilderness.
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Apr 4, 2023 23:57
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Apr 5, 2023 00:02
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CitizenKain posted:Ah yes, someone who last made a game when you had configure conventional memory to free up space for a mouse driver is the goto guy on a giant life simulation. No but you see tony z is a visionary and can make big promises ! He is promising all this cool poo poo and it takes a man of genius to promise No wonder Chris likes him so much he seems himself in the poor guy , they both can promise the moon forget about delivering it here’s a small rock I found down by the shore. Close enough right , after a solid patch cycle it’ll be almost like a moon.
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Kavros posted:
Yeah, nope. Dude will die clutching his Pico plushie while whispering about the Martian opera.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:So it turns out the Star Citizen grift isn't unique but it seems to be the very first branch of the metaverse scam to get started: StarCit never comes up in this video, but every excuse from the Decentraland boosters is deeply familiar. This is just an alpha! This is already more fun than anything on earth! Once VR is enabled this thing will take off, and you'll be sorry if you haven't invested by now! Property you buy today will be worth a thousand times more in the future! The developers of both StarCit and Decentraland do not have VR support on their timelines whatsoever
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Apr 5, 2023 07:42
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RearmingStrafbomber posted:StarCit never comes up in this video, but every excuse from the Decentraland boosters is deeply familiar. This is just an alpha! This is already more fun than anything on earth! Once VR is enabled this thing will take off, and you'll be sorry if you haven't invested by now! Property you buy today will be worth a thousand times more in the future! The glowing praise and "potential" of the sub-Duke Nukem 3D quality movie theatre felt very familiar.
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Apr 5, 2023 09:12
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RearmingStrafbomber posted:StarCit never comes up in this video, but every excuse from the Decentraland boosters is deeply familiar. This is just an alpha! This is already more fun than anything on earth! Once VR is enabled this thing will take off, and you'll be sorry if you haven't invested by now! Property you buy today will be worth a thousand times more in the future! The bigger paralell for me here was that the idea of Decentraland cannot fail, it can only be failed. The developers were too incompetent to realize it's grand scope. Exactly like Star Citizen.
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Blue On Blue posted:No but you see tony z is a visionary and can make big promises ! He is promising all this cool poo poo and it takes a man of genius to promise There was also a bit about journalists not really understanding the origins of the meta-verse scam, and pulling their punches even when they have a lovely experience because they think they’re just missing something. It describes almost every journalist who touches Star Citizen, even the guys from Linus Tech Tips who at least tried to dig into the whole sordid history of the project.
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colonelwest posted:There was also a bit about journalists not really understanding the origins of the meta-verse scam, and pulling their punches even when they have a lovely experience because they think they’re just missing something. It describes almost every journalist who touches Star Citizen, even the guys from Linus Tech Tips who at least tried to dig into the whole sordid history of the project. They didn't really, though. One of the non-linus people in those videos was bought in. they gave it a ton of leeway
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So Everspace 2 is probably going to be released today if it hasn't been yet. I've been trying out its early access and the development process was enthusiastically competent and transparent in the ways in which CIG could only have wished, and the end product is Good Space Fun https://www.pcgamer.com/everspace-2-review/ So, if you like the idea of Freelancer Diablo, get in on that
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Kavros posted:So Everspace 2 is probably going to be released today if it hasn't been yet. I've been trying out its early access and the development process was enthusiastically competent and transparent in the ways in which CIG could only have wished, and the end product is Good Space Fun I think it's also part of Gamepass, so if you have that, you don't have to fork out the ridiculous new AAA price of 70€.
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Kavros posted:So Everspace 2 is probably going to be released today if it hasn't been yet. I've been trying out its early access and the development process was enthusiastically competent and transparent in the ways in which CIG could only have wished, and the end product is Good Space Fun Bought and installed it last night, haven't played yet, looking forward to it later. I will of course be comparing it to the infinite-A CIG magnum opus Star Citizen at all times. Chris set the bar, we'll see if Everspace 2 can dig deep enough to reach it.
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colonelwest posted:There was also a bit about journalists not really understanding the origins of the meta-verse scam, and pulling their punches even when they have a lovely experience because they think they’re just missing something. It's a genius grift. The psychology around it is astounding. I have a friend who still gets fooled by this on occasion, and it's always the screenshots or some carefully edited YouTube video he gets snared by, and my friends and I have to take 15 minutes to drag him back off the edge of the cliff. One of the most impressive things about the CIG grift is how early it started, and how it's still going, and nobody else yet has even come close to imitating it. There have been attempts, but nobody has even come close. You'd think by now someone would have perfected the formula, but no, it was CIG that got all of it right first try out of the gate. That's some lightning in a bottle.
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Blue On Blue posted:it has been said in interviews before with Chris that if a server is needed, it will just SPIN UP like they have an entire server farm sitting idle waiting eagerly for the command to instantly activate for Star Citizen If they're running in AWS or something (so, Amazon's server farm) this is actually possible, large websites do it all the time.
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feedmegin posted:If they're running in AWS or something (so, Amazon's server farm) this is actually possible, large websites do it all the time. Yeah, and that's the thing. Chris thinks that being able to spin up additional instances of static served content behind load balancers or whatever is an absolute 1:1 match for spinning up, well, you have to be insane to follow the reasoning. Star Citizen isn't just about spinning up servers like you'd spin up a new realm in World of Warcraft. No, each of these servers, due to the magic of server meshing, once combined will act as one giant server that is dynamically expanding and contracting with the load. Did two more people enter your dogfight and resources are getting tight? Worry not, another server will "spin up" and that server will be dedicated to handling the new arrivals, but be able to communicate with the action on the first server so quickly and seamlessly it will be like both servers are just one giant super fast server. It can grow like that forever! The more servers spin up, the bigger and faster the universe gets! For additional information, please refer to the Power in the Machines.
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Kavros posted:So Everspace 2 is probably going to be released today if it hasn't been yet. I've been trying out its early access and the development process was enthusiastically competent and transparent in the ways in which CIG could only have wished, and the end product is Good Space Fun Was looking forward to it, liking ES1 a lot, but ugh, Diablo style loot might be enough to get me to skip it. I managed to overcome it in Nioh, but just by the skin of my teeth.
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I found Diablo's loot system way more tolerable than Nioh's. Maybe 'cause ARPGs always have crap loot systems while soulslikes usually don't.
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Scruffpuff posted:Bought and installed it last night, haven't played yet, looking forward to it later. I will of course be comparing it to the infinite-A CIG magnum opus Star Citizen at all times. Chris set the bar, we'll see if Everspace 2 can dig deep enough to reach it. It's built competently around a modern graphics engine that is entirely suitable to making a graphically impressive, high-stability environment for the full scope of intended gameplay, so it's got that working against it. With just a few unworkable goals it could never release and suck the entire time, but instead they decided to finish it and release it. Sad!
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