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happyhippy posted:Because there was a head on a table in Alien and a medical scan scene too! I prefer Prometheus too, but the original film is certainly no kindergarten play. Like, sure, Ash slices open the highly toxic alien - without explicitly double-scanning it first - and nearly blows up the ship. But, however unsatisfying that may be, it’s an excusable plot hole.
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 you can see the hands barely touch the head of cabbage before it gets thrown across the room, why would pinback bring the alien onboard when he knew the ship was not equipped to feed and take care of it
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I originally had Darkstar on my double feature playlist paired up with Alien but thought it was too on the nose. ruddiger posted:Alien/Alien 2: On Earth (1980) Kinda rethinking the Prometheus/Martian pairing since I kinda already did that with my Ridley Scott Alien Universe watch order, Frankenstein would work really well considering the surtitle of the book. ruddiger posted:Preferred Alien universe watching order ruddiger fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Another Day in the Corps is getting a reprint. Any have insight if it’s worth grabbing? https://www.gf9games.com/aliens/215/su-100/
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I think it's kind of funny that through a series of contextual changes and overall cultural drift, the Lovecraftian read on the Alien and the presumably uncaring universe that created it is seen as comforting and signifying potential and wonder, while the (ambiguously sincere) Biblical imagery that Ridley Scott likes to play with, with the Alien as sort of the ultimate slave / leper and the Engineer as something like a man, is upsetting "forbidden knowledge" that threatens the viewer with irreversible contamination just by knowing about it. 
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ruddiger posted:I originally had Darkstar on my double feature playlist paired up with Alien but thought it was too on the nose. How about Outland? Similar vibes to the Alien series in a lot of ways: blue collar workers in space exploited by The Company, and some body horror with freaky drug effects.
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mllaneza posted:How about Outland? Similar vibes to the Alien series in a lot of ways: blue collar workers in space exploited by The Company, and some body horror with freaky drug effects. Fun fact: I can’t quite remember the specifics, but the new Alien RPG fit in an Outland reference just for laughs
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https://i.imgur.com/42sQk1y.gifv As a sidenote, the supposed Alien universe of Ridley Scott films made me curious and I just learned that before Ridley made The Counselor he was heavily involved in adapting Blood Meridian with Bill Monahan as screenwriter. Shame no studios were willing to pick it up, but it seems we might be entering an era where an adaptation could possibly do the story justice given the length of the Avatar sequel and Scorsese's new flick being nearly 4 hours long. Not an ideal cinema experience but I like that big directors are starting to push against the status quo of movie length. Ridley was still talking about his next Alien movie in late 2020, which I don't think has been officially canceled? I know he initially planned four films (as well as claiming that he could make up to six) and of course, Ridley says a lot of things, but his developing thought process has been interesting. He seems adamant on concluding with the Croissant on LV426 and answering why it was carrying a cargo of eggs (his words, not mine) but also intends to pivot away from the alien (with its evolution being nearly over) and transcend to another story which would be taken over by A.I.s. He also wanted Sigourney to return because "Well, we're heading toward the back end of the first Alien so [using CGI] may be feasible. Ripley's going to be somebody's daughter, obviously. We're coming in from the back end. The time constraints of what's the time between this film, where we leave David going off heading for that colony, I think you're probably two films out from even considering her." It looks like Ridley is confirmed to be co-producing Hawley's Alien TV show, so maybe he's counting on that to be successful to get the green light for Alien: Awakening? James Cameron has apparently been trying to revive Blomkamp's canceled Alien project as well, though. You get a Ripley! And you get a Ripley!
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SUNKOS posted:He also wanted Sigourney to return because "Well, we're heading toward the back end of the first Alien so [using CGI] may be feasible. Ripley's going to be somebody's daughter, obviously.
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FilthyImp posted:Holy poo poo that is the most hackneyed bullshit ever. This belongs on toilet paper. truly a garbage idea
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Xenomrph posted:Fun fact: I can’t quite remember the specifics, but the new Alien RPG fit in an Outland reference just for laughs IIRC tge mainbook mentions the station and the drugs imo are very Outland adjacent, and in Destroyer of Worlds the marshals building there is basically the office from Outland and the officers there are named Hyams/etc.
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SUNKOS posted:https://i.imgur.com/42sQk1y.gifv OMG Ridley you idiot genius, I love you I remember him talking about Blood Meridian not happening and the reason was because he was basically like they'd need to invent a new rating for it for how much violence he'd want on screen so no one wanted to do it lol
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SUNKOS posted:https://i.imgur.com/42sQk1y.gifv We're also getting the Fede Alvarez Alien movie, also produced by Scott. If those two projects go well... I think Disney would likely continue following those new threads. Cheaper and easier to market than a revival of the Ripley or David threads. Love to be wrong about the latter though.
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mllaneza posted:How about Outland? Similar vibes to the Alien series in a lot of ways: blue collar workers in space exploited by The Company, and some body horror with freaky drug effects. Never heard of it, but after watching the trailer I added it to the top of my watchlist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYc2GQyrAlw
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Thanks for doing the thing I was too lazy to do!
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ruddiger posted:Never heard of it, but after watching the trailer I added it to the top of my watchlist. It's real good and looks awesome. Maybe consider Forbidden World/MUTANT to double feature with Resurrection (the cut called MUTANT is a little better because there's some more runtime of the characters joking around and stuff but either is good).
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ruddiger posted:Never heard of it, but after watching the trailer I added it to the top of my watchlist. Outland is really the only other Alien movie.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I prefer Prometheus too, but the original film is certainly no kindergarten play. ... 
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Neo Rasa posted:It's real good and looks awesome. Those are both good, but I want to throw another contender in the ring, Critters 4, with Angela Bassett and Brad Dourif running a proto-firefly crew. I still think M3GAN would work as a double bill since it hits on both hyper capitalism and the mirroring of AI themes with Megan and Call. I think it was Basebf555 who originally was looking for the double feature pairings, I wish we got more suggestions before columbo goon got obsessed with actors trying to take physical samples from a cgi prop.
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I think it was probably a real prop with some CGI added to show the reaction begin once the tamper seal was broken, something I alluded to previously which was unfortunately misread. The crew made props for the other creatures however such as the hammerpede and even the trilobite which was very impressive work:  The creature designers were influenced by many things, one being a 1975 comic called The Long Tomorrow, written by Dan O'Bannon and illustrated by Moebius while he worked on Jodorowsky's Dune. To be more specific, an alien shapeshifter called an 'Arcturian', previously disguised as a woman, was the inspiration: 
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Forbidden World is definitely one that I want to throw in at some point this month, that has to be my favorite trashy Alien rip off.
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Oh yeah, fun anecdote about Covenant: When the artists who drew all of David's drawings that were hung up in his menagerie (and were collected for the book "David's Drawings") were first hired, Ridley Scott instructed them to draw the most hosed up stuff they could think of. They asked for clarification on this, and Scott essentially said "No really just the most hosed up stuff, I want it to be nuts". So they started drawing, and then showed it to Ridley Scott who said "okay yeah that's too hosed up, you need to dial it back". David's Drawings is a great book, it has interviews with the artists where they recount Ridley Scott's "  "
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SUNKOS posted:To be more specific, an alien shapeshifter called an 'Arcturian', previously disguised as a woman, was the inspiration: I see what James Cameron did there!
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Splicer posted:You're comparing the crew of the Prometheus to a malfunctioning robot programmed to fail. Ash wasn't malfunctioning or programmed to fail.
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Xenomrph posted:Scott essentially said "No really just the most hosed up stuff, I want it to be nuts". So they started drawing, and then showed it to Ridley Scott who said "okay yeah that's too hosed up, you need to dial it back". I wonder where the nuts went in the original concept for this   Seriously though, this offered up so much potential to creep the hell out of those of us with Trypophobia. Cute visual callback, too.
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ruddiger posted:I think it was Basebf555 who originally was looking for the double feature pairings, I wish we got more suggestions before columbo goon got obsessed with actors trying to take physical samples from a cgi prop. Outland -> Alien Chronopolis -> Prometheus Alien Covenant -> Memories: Episode 1: Magnetic Rose / In Her Thoughts “CURSED LIST” AVP -> Moon 44 -> Aliens -> Aliens: Ride At The Speed Of Fright -> Starship Troopers 2: Hero Of The Federation
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Outland -> Alien hey i found chronopolis with the luc ferrari score btw https://blogthehum.com/2017/06/20/piotr-kamlers-chronopolis-1983-with-its-incredible-soundtrack-composed-by-luc-ferrari/
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The last dozen or so pages… have not put me off of thinking space wasps and robots powered by cum are pretty neat! It was close, though!
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SUNKOS posted:the trilobite which was very impressive work: It's nice that the prop/creature design teams recognized the important parts about Giger's legacy: that everything is dicks & pussies. quote:akira-rear end influences
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Mister Speaker posted:akira-rear end influences Might be misunderstanding you, but The Long Tomorrow was published in Metal Hurlant a little over five years before the first installment of Akira was published in Young Magazine. Otomo has been pretty open about being heavily influenced by Moebius though, if that's what you were saying. Metal Hurlant became fairly popular in Japan in the 80s and influenced a lot of famous works. Even Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaa started as essentially fan art for Arzak.
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DeimosRising posted:hey i found chronopolis with the luc ferrari score btw https://blogthehum.com/2017/06/20/piotr-kamlers-chronopolis-1983-with-its-incredible-soundtrack-composed-by-luc-ferrari/ Thank you! I seen Chronopolis like 8 times, but it’s not easy to track down a copy. On the topic of animation: the Netflix cartoon movie Make My Day is basically Lily-CAT 2. It’s the kind of fan-film where they mash up Aliens with Outland and then name their characters Hicks and Hyams. If you can stomach the hideously low-budget animation, it’s conceptually solid and probably a better Alien sequel than Aliens. Certainly better than the other Aliens/Outland mashup, Moon 44.
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Moon 44 is pretty dope. It's just a shame the third act just turns into boring action sequence drivel. e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0WJGo3VtKM Yeah, I'll watch this. Pretty hideous, but not too much worse than early Clone Wars or whatnot. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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That Roughnecks show was way better than it had any right to be. Maybe it’s rose-colored glasses because I remember enjoying the hell out of it the last time I watched it. I’ve got it on DVD, I should give it a rewatch.
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I watched a few episodes a while back, it's good. A bit goofy, but it definitely holds up, though you can tell there were production issues. I don't like the idea of AI upscales, but that's one show where it could really help the viewing experience and it wouldn't be possible to get that quality otherwise.
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ruddiger posted:Looks less Clone Wars and more Starship Troopers Chronicles There’s definitely a ton of Starship Troopers (novel) influence in the movie, but thankfully without much fashy stuff. MMD doesn’t hold up to the standards of “actual movies”, but it’s an enormous success by the standards of Alien fan-films and cheapo DTV ripoffs. Its redeeming qualities are the deliberate pacing, pretty wild concepts, rather good soundtrack, and those left-of-Cameron politics.
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