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Pennywise the Frown posted:Doesn't filing for bankruptcy cost money? And time? And resources probably not even available to them? Not a lot, really. You can get a basic Chapter 7 filed for under 1k if you live in an area where things aren't super expensive. I had to have an emergency appendectomy and didn't have health insurance at my lovely job and obviously couldn't afford to pay the medical bills so I scraped up $600 or whatever it was and filed BK and everything went away. quote:Why doesn't everyone in extreme debt (like half the country) just file for bankruptcy? A lot of them do. The ones that don't don't want to lose their stuff or their ability to acquire debt to buy more stuff. You don't have to be ultra rich to gum up the works in a civil suit with a bankruptcy. A few grand to an attorney to get the BK rolling and things can get dragged out for years.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Doesn't filing for bankruptcy cost money? And time? And resources probably not even available to them? You have to pay the bankruptcy firm like a couple grand, but it isn't up front. It can be a couple hundred a month, which you should have because you get to stop paying all your credit card bills. If you don't make all your payments your bankruptcy doesn't get discharged in a timely manner. The reason everybody doesn't due it is fear of tanking your credit rating. It isn't just used by lenders, some places it is also checked by potential employers or landlords. Or because they've already done it before, it is p easy the first time but if you keep doing it it gets harder. Or shame, I guess.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Doesn't filing for bankruptcy cost money? And time? And resources probably not even available to them? hundreds of thousands of people file for bankruptcy every year, and the majority of them make less than $30k/yr, which generally qualifies them for special low-cost bankruptcy options. if your finances are simple (because you don't have any), you might even be able to do it without a lawyer as for why most people don't do it, I'd imagine it's because bankruptcy sucks???? depending on the flavor of bankruptcy you file for, the court could seize almost anything you own that's worth more than a certain amount. and bankruptcy proceedings gently caress your credit hard regardless. not all types of debt are dischargeable either usually there are other options with fewer nasty side effects that you can try first, like payment plans or debt consolidation, so filing for bankruptcy is a last resort. except for very stupid people who think it's easy to hide money from the bankruptcy court
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bird with big dick posted:A lot of them do. The ones that don't don't want to lose their stuff or their ability to acquire debt to buy more stuff. I know just one person that has filed for bankruptcy (that openly admitted it because it's a serious shame in the civilian world). Middle class educated white guy who has zero financial sense. And naturally, their $60,000 in student loans were not included. So they were bankrupt, but with a poo poo ton of debt as well! lol Facebook Aunt posted:You have to pay the bankruptcy firm like a couple grand, but it isn't up front. It can be a couple hundred a month, which you should have because you get to stop paying all your credit card bills. If you don't make all your payments your bankruptcy doesn't get discharged in a timely manner. Yeah. I understand we're talking about an ultra-rich person here but to put things back into reality, most Americans don't have $500 in their bank account so "a couple grand" is quite the hardship. And destroying your credit rating (which didn't exist in my parent's world) can completely cripple you. Can't get a car loan, personal loan, mortgage (lol), etc etc etc. Bankruptcy is not a "well good, it's all over and I can start from the beginning." You start from the beginning with a whole lot of bullshit fighting against you. A rich person can weather that storm, a poor person's life will be just that much worse. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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if you literally don't have any money at all, Chapter 7 bankruptcy can be simple enough that it's reasonable to do without a lawyer, and you can get the fees waived turns out the paperwork's a lot simpler when you don't have any assets for the bankruptcy court to sort out
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I always have to laugh at the loving 6th Amendment of the United States Constitution. It says "criminal" right fuckin' there, my man; you have no constitutional right to a timeframe for civil dispute resolution. And that's part of the problem with civil justice in the States. Criminal trials get priority for courtroom slots, jury pools, etc over civil trials because of 6A concerns. The countries folks are mentioning as having more efficient systems don't have the same people handling criminal and civil cases in the same ecosystem.
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Agents are GO! posted:No, that's Alex Jones mother. 
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JohnCompany posted:It says "criminal" right fuckin' there, my man; you have no constitutional right to a timeframe for civil dispute resolution. And that's part of the problem with civil justice in the States. Criminal trials get priority for courtroom slots, jury pools, etc over civil trials because of 6A concerns. The countries folks are mentioning as having more efficient systems don't have the same people handling criminal and civil cases in the same ecosystem. I was referring to this: Pennywise the Frown posted:Has anyone ever been able to successfully sue over the 6th amendment for being in prison for like a year or two without even a trial? Are you not aware that this happens like, every single day? People are held in jails without any charges all the time. 
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Pennywise the Frown posted:I was referring to this:
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No worries. And yes, defendants often claim 6A rights (or their state equivalent). I know the NYS rule is the prosecution must be ready within six months, can't speak for other states.
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Bankruptcy and its related things do have the advantage of being easier to do the less you have, and while it should be avoided as much as possible it IS a very viable strategy if you're legitimately poor, drowning in dischargeable debt and, say, only own a lovely car and rent a one-bedroom with only the most basic of amenities, because you're not going to "lose" anything if you don't have anything worthwhile to lose (and you're entitled to keep a few things). In fact, in these situations you will probably immediately wind up "richer" immediately, in that you'll suddenly have more money due to longer getting jacked by multiple debt sources increasing every month. Again, bankruptcy isn't supposed to be punitive, and societally it's known that people in unresolvable financial situations, regardless of why they're there, need some type of way out so it's not a de facto "life sentence".
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Update on some of the court stuff. Jones' original bankruptcy attorney and CRO who were denied by the court to represent the debtors appealed their denial of appointment. While that appeal is pending, they have worked out a settlement to pay some of their fees from the bankruptcy estate to them for their pre-petition work. The US trustee and Sandy Hook families have opposed this proposed settlement saying that Schwartz and Lee should take nothing because they were not approved by the court. There is a hearing on this on the 28th.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Update on some of the court stuff. Jones' original bankruptcy attorney and CRO who were denied by the court to represent the debtors appealed their denial of appointment. While that appeal is pending, they have worked out a settlement to pay some of their fees from the bankruptcy estate to them for their pre-petition work. The US trustee and Sandy Hook families have opposed this proposed settlement saying that Schwartz and Lee should take nothing because they were not approved by the court. There is a hearing on this on the 28th. ...worked out a settlement with who? the debtor that was denied the ability to hire them?
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evilweasel posted:...worked out a settlement with who? the debtor that was denied the ability to hire them? Yeah. It's a settlement agreed between debtor, denied CRO, denied lawyer, and chapter V trustee attempting to be forced through via 9019 motion. US trustee and Sandy Hook Families oppose. Here's the US Trustee's opposition which the Sandy Hook family's joined. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706/gov.uscourts.txsb.457706.553.0.pdf Full docket if you want: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64868456/free-speech-systems-llc/
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Mr. Nice! posted:Yeah. It's a settlement agreed between debtor, denied CRO, denied lawyer, and chapter V trustee attempting to be forced through via 9019 motion. US trustee and Sandy Hook Families oppose. Here's the US Trustee's opposition which the Sandy Hook family's joined. yeah a 9019 is obviously improper here, except that you can get all sorts of obviously improper stuff done with magic 9019 pixie dust that said this does seem like a bridge too far
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kw0134 posted:transgendered persons "Transgendered" isn't a word. We just prefer "trans people".
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Digital Jedi posted:5 years yesterday How can his head get that loving red without exploding Scanners style
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Foo Diddley posted:all the alcohol thins his blood, which has been clinically proven to lead to fewer incidences of 'splody head All the drugs and booze and chili in his system just acting like Mr. Burns' Three Stooges Syndrome, keeping his blood just barely liquid enough to prevent a full-body explosive aneurysm. Guy's going to just paint a whole ceiling red without using his hands someday. RocketMermaid fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Apr 19, 2023 |
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As previously noted:Baron von Eevl posted:Alex Jones knicks himself shaving, 2024, colorized
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True dumb story: That gif in this thread got me to watch Ran, and it was 100% worth my time. I should eat some chili and watch it again.
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Dewgy posted:True dumb story: That gif in this thread got me to watch Ran, and it was 100% worth my time. I should eat some chili and watch it again. That Akira Kurosawa, pretty loving good at his job. I just rewatched Seven Samurai the other day. Then I immediately watched the lovely new Magnificent Seven. Jesus loving christ it was like whiplash.
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Baron von Eevl posted:As previously noted: I think my favorite part of that gift is that the angle the splatter flies out puts the lady immediately in its line of fire. Xiahou Dun posted:That Akira Kurosawa, pretty loving good at his job. I just rewatched Seven Samurai the other day. Oh God, why would you do that to yourself? It was so bad. Just completely missed the point of the original and even did that godawful remake thing of waiting until the end credits to use the beloved theme of the original.
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MEIN RAVEN posted:Sweet Jesus. I may be ignorant of these things, but that sounds like a massive sanction Mike Bankston is on today’s Knowledge Fight. He commented that six figure fines are rare for individual lawyers. Real deal consequences.
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If you read the ruling, it's $96k now, comprised of $71k in costs plus $25k in personal punitive sanctions against Reynal. She adds another up-to-$115k if Reynal appeals, to cover appellate costs. Yikes. I've never seen $25,000 in punitive sanctions against a lawyer. That's a ton. I've seen some six figure sanctions to cover costs, which the lawyer usually just bills to the client, but that's a freaking ton of personal sanctions. Ruling is linked in the huffpost.com article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alex-jones-attorney-sandy-hook-trial_n_6449bd39e4b04997b575ab46?riw
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Xiahou Dun posted:That Akira Kurosawa, pretty loving good at his job. I just rewatched Seven Samurai the other day. Kurosawa is so good, that my youngest last year at age 10 sat through the entirety of Seven Samurai because he thought it was awesome. He is a bit of a precocious reader for his age so the subs weren't that rough on him, but I seriously expected to lose him through the numerous panoramic shots that Kurosawa was infatuated with. Any director that can hold the attention of a kid who prefers to watch shrieky fart joke Minecraft videos has got chops, alive or dead.
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