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Kilometers Davis posted:thrash rules rear end
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Southern Cassowary posted:think the last tech death album that grabbed me was cult of lilith - mara. hadnt actually heard of this one before but seems up my alley, ty for mentioning it also this convo made me discover that Aspid's only album is finally on Spotify so i'm finally going through it and uh yeah it lives up to the hype i've absorbed about it through the years lol
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Apr 14, 2023 06:59
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Just finished listening to 72 Seasons, and I liked it overall, but also it didn't do anything amazing for me either. Lux Aeterna was the only real standout and i've already been listening to that song a lot for awhile now. All of the best songs on the album were already released as singles.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:08
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Southern Cassowary posted:these are the two highlight songs but ajfa has poo poo like the title track and frayed ends of sanity which drag out way too long The song AJFA is loving great. Also, I admit the verse\chorus of Frayed Ends is meh, but the middle section of Frayed Ends is probably the best thing Metallica ever put to tape.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:13
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Southern Cassowary posted:think the last tech death album that grabbed me was cult of lilith - mara. You should check out the Anachronism album from earlier this year. symbolic posted:hadnt actually heard of this one before but seems up my alley, ty for mentioning it Insanely good record.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:17
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well i listened to 72 seasons i fully expected the entire album to be uninspired, lifeless thrash with the edges sanded off like the singles and i'd just make a shitpost and move on/talk about good music. metallica still had a decent thrash song in them seven years ago (the title track to hardwired is great) but i got 11 tracks into this one and i don't think they have it in them anymore. the attempts at energy are uninspired and they just sound old, in a way i feel like they didn't on death magnetic or hardwired. then they swerved on me and inamorata is like, their 90s rock output viewed through the lens of stoner metal. the lyrics are dumb and repetitive but it's the most inspired and enjoyable songwriting on the album - the riffs are more interesting than the thrashier bits and it builds in a satisfying way that, if not as good as their classics, manages to evoke them. i kind of wish metallica had leaned into that inspiration rather than phoning in an attempt to recapture their youth. give me load mixed with sleep - it probably wouldn't be good but it would at least be interesting, which is a lot more than can be said for metallica's output the past two decades. i'm going to go listen to good music now. Southern Cassowary fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 07:51
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Lux ripped, then the other 2 singles just sounded like generic Hardwired disc 2 castoffs. I’m like halfway through 72 and the non-single songs are somehow slightly worse than Suicide and Darkness. These songs could have all been trimmed 1-2 mins shorter and not lost anything. It’s a pretty crappy album so far, and I’m a huge Metallica apologist. e: Kinda weird that it wasn’t given the Dolby Atmos treatment on Apple Music either Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 07:51
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Henchman of Santa posted:Already did, then all the second wave bands came up. Was listening to Num Skull and Sabbat (UK) today. loving love me some Sabbat. And Skyclad.
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Apr 14, 2023 09:15
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Speaking of thrash, this had a pleasing old-school vibe (though it came out in 2012): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-qlJQYU8Qs
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Apr 14, 2023 10:42
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I'm going to listen to 72 Seasons in a little bit, all four songs they've put out as singles have been drab so I'm not excited especially, but Metallica are an absolute marketing machine at this point. It's hard to see past that and see them as the daring kids they were, because they're not. Two of them are genuinely talented musicians and the other two are Lars and Kirk so I wouldn't say they're a nothing band or that they're passionless entirely but they have a picture perfect understanding of what Metal music will sell out stadiums, how to get people on board and, ultimately, how to be family friendly. All of those things feel counter intuitive to early Metallica and just generally Thrash Metal in general, which is why they don't write new Thrash Metal anymore. I'm not positioning any of that as a negative either. Well, other than Lars being poo poo and Kirk being spent. They're absolutely brilliant at what they do and every kid in a back yard garage band back in the day wished they'd be getting the spotlight, fame and money Metallica do. They absolutely achieved the dream and I won't begrudge them that. What they do however leaves me and I suspect a lot of older Metallica and metal fans cold. I hear Inamorata has Fixxxer vibes so it's the only track I'm looking forward to hearing on 72 Seasons, as I'm a gigantic Load/ReLoad (lesser extent) apologist, but the rest, I'm anticipating boredom. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 10:45
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Southern Cassowary posted:rust is top tier but dawn patrol is a slog to fill out 2 minutes which puts it below ride the lightning imo. solid second though. Dawn Patrol is not only good, the album is worse without it. Rust in Peace is about as close to perfect as humanly possible for a Thrash album, 40 minutes, straight to the point, done before it gets boring but Dawn Patrol lets everything before it breath befor Polaris sends you off.
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Apr 14, 2023 11:00
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You know what's also cool? Death metal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOBC4lQS_KE
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Apr 14, 2023 11:14
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Kilometers Davis posted:thrash rules rear end
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Apr 14, 2023 11:16
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Kilometers Davis posted:thrash rules rear end  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qLIUnQ8Knk
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Apr 14, 2023 11:55
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Mm, Testament was one of the first bands I stumbled across back in the day.
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Apr 14, 2023 11:57
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remigious posted:I don’t really understand complaints about an album being too long. You don’t have to listen to it all at once. well, the main problem is that almost all long metal albums are bad.
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Apr 14, 2023 12:02
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okay I listened to 72 Seasons. There's about 20 minutes of good music on this 77 minute long album. Stand out track is the last one by a chunk.
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Apr 14, 2023 12:17
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Turned this off 25 minutes into my drive - just boring garbage. And the drums are way too high in the mix. gently caress Lars. These guys can't write for poo poo any more. "keep me insiiiiide, SUICIDE" - hey buddy, been there done that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn2z19QnEfQ Popped on Overkill's "Feel the Fire" and didn't look back.
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Apr 14, 2023 13:28
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This album and Practice What You Preach are probably my favorite Testament records.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:17
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testament is so loving good
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Apr 14, 2023 14:35
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Here's a good album from a legendary thrash band released today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Hn0olArRo
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Apr 14, 2023 15:31
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72 Seasons Metal Landscaping starts out pretty decent, falls off pretty hard around track 4. ("Sleepwalk My Life Away" has a real bad case of "just play any riff you can think of without accidentally going into Enter Sandman") After that point it's generally the tracks that manage to stay under 6 minutes that are decent, with the rest being kind of interminable. I did dig "Chasing Light" though, even though in my head the chorus is "Ketchup falls! Lean on me!" It's nice when they get around to an actual hook instead of just random riffs. It's also nice when we finally get some different textures in the last track. If you're gonna keep making 70-minute albums, could we please vary the sound palette from Metallica Default a little bit? Even Death Magnetic had "Unforgiven 3". They've already proven they can thrash again, but it's not like Master of Puppets was just all chugging all the time.
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Apr 14, 2023 16:00
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I said it somewhere else, but I genuinely think that if you got an AI programme to "write a Metallica album that sounds like it came out after St. Anger", it'd sound the same as 90% of 72 Seasons. They at least remember that they can do harmonies when they have two guitars on the second to last track, to give a bit of credit to a track that isn't Inamorata. Vintersorg posted:Here's a good album from a legendary thrash band released today. This is way better than anything on it
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Apr 14, 2023 16:20
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Henchman of Santa posted:You should check out the Anachronism album from earlier this year. this is great, thanks for the shout. always looking to hear this kind of dissonance done well and they did something cool by leaning a bit more into melody than i'd normally expect - gives some catharsis while listening.
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Apr 14, 2023 16:39
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Southern Cassowary posted:
Dawn Patrol is essential to Polaris kicking as much rear end as it does. I can't explain it, but there it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8euhRW1DFWQ And yes Rust in Peace is the greatest thrash album of all time. Just slays start to finish. I get bored wit Master of Puppets and stuff from Exodus, Testament, even Slayer... but this and Peace Sells... are top loving tier, with the edge going to Rust in Peace. And it was a great sin what Dave did to the vocals on Take No Prisoners. CornHolio fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 17:48
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CornHolio posted:Dawn Patrol is essential to Polaris kicking as much rear end as it does. I can't explain it, but there it is. https://www.theonion.com/humanity-still-producing-new-art-as-though-megadeth-s-1819578062
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Apr 14, 2023 17:54
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the "Poison was the Cure" riff feels like some Faustian bargain poo poo, it's still one of the tightest yet most chaotic riffs i've ever heard. RiP ftmfw!!!
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Apr 14, 2023 17:57
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I'll only listen to the original mix of Rust in Peace. The remixes are so bad.
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Apr 14, 2023 18:02
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Vargatron posted:I'll only listen to the original mix of Rust in Peace. The remixes are so bad. Qft. 2004 version of Five Magics is actually unlistenable
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Apr 14, 2023 18:35
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Henchman of Santa posted:Or Reign in Blood, Eternal Nightmare, Bonded by Blood, motherfucking Epidemic of Violence, Pleasure to Kill, Spectrum of Death...all better than the fourth-best Metallica album. I was gonna post something about how german/european thrash is superior to any american thrash, but forgot that toxic holocaust and overkill are american bands to add to metallica chat, I honestly think the title track from st. anger is a pretty decent song. the lyrics are goofy as all hell, but it sounds, I don't know, like the most sincere song hetfield has ever written. there's some real emotion there that works. the bridge is extremely catchy in a way I refused to acknowledge 20 years ago. the rest of the album is terrible, though
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Apr 14, 2023 18:52
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ulvir posted:I was gonna post something about how german/european thrash is superior to any american thrash, but forgot that toxic holocaust and overkill are american bands Nah, as much as I love Kreator, Destruction and a few others (like the aforementioned Sabbat, or the technically-thrash-i-guess-but-really-something-else Celtic Frost), North America dominates the Euros in thrash. My most unpopular thrash opinion is probably that Sodom is merely okay. I'm in the final stretch of 72 Seasons. It's pleasant music to work to but none of these songs are gonna leave a mark. The production is pretty nice, far from the headache-inducing stuff of Death Magnetic. It is definitely a bunch of 60-year-olds doing a pretty good approximation of the music that made them famous. For something I'm listening to basically out of obligation it could be a lot worse.
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Apr 14, 2023 19:00
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I'm gonna come out and say it, I think Load and Reload are the best Metallica albums. Everything before them is overplayed and everything after them is tryhard garbage. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftV_XepIwpo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_i8Ad6Kd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF7U1zlletc
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Apr 14, 2023 19:00
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ulvir posted:to add to metallica chat, I honestly think the title track from st. anger is a pretty decent song. the lyrics are goofy as all hell, but it sounds, I don't know, like the most sincere song hetfield has ever written. there's some real emotion there that works. the bridge is extremely catchy in a way I refused to acknowledge 20 years ago. the rest of the album is terrible, though Frantic's not the worst thing of all time. Shoot Me Again might just be. CornHolio posted:I'm gonna come out and say it, I think Load and Reload are the best Metallica albums. Everything before them is overplayed and everything after them is tryhard garbage. Tbh, I might agree. They're really creative and you just know James was in a really loving dark place during it all, Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn in particular are desperate cries for help in hindsight. They also have a number of songs that are solid bops live, such as Fuel, Memory Remains and maybe not live tracks but Hero of the Day, Until it Sleeps are both in the very upper tier of their discography. They do have some duds between the two of them as well. A singular Load album that had only the best of both would be one of the best albums going.
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Apr 14, 2023 19:12
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Inamorata mostly sucks.
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Apr 14, 2023 19:21
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Can’t believe the band that haven’t made a good album since 1984 made a bad album in 2023.
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Apr 14, 2023 19:27
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St. Anger has an awesome snare tone. I hate everything else about it but that PING PING PING snare is amazing.
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Apr 14, 2023 19:49
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The new album might be disappointing, but at least the week of performances they did on Jimmy Kimmel are pretty good and make me want to see them live again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd1uhbliZeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeKtCya1X2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWA0c6DDEY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOm8BUTvPQA
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Apr 14, 2023 19:52
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I don't know this album kinda rips lol. I like this way more than Death Magnetic and Hardwired
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Apr 14, 2023 20:12
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CornHolio posted:I'm gonna come out and say it, I think Load and Reload are the best Metallica albums. Everything before them is overplayed and everything after them is tryhard garbage. Hell yes, I’m with you!
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CornHolio posted:I'm gonna come out and say it, I think Load and Reload are the best Metallica albums. Everything before them is overplayed and everything after them is tryhard garbage. Disagree about them being the best, but they are both very excellent hard rock albums that I enjoy a lot.
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