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SE Asia loves doing this poo poo and it was perfected by Japanese convenience stores. though this is a pretty rough example.
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Apr 14, 2023 10:07
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https://twitter.com/firstsquawk/status/1646807586014912512
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Apr 14, 2023 10:31
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Oglethorpe posted:all usenets have a relatively short retention period because of the size of data, gotta grab stuff while its hot off the press not really? theres a helpful goon Usenet thread. give it a look sometime https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3409898&perpage=40&noseen=1 That Works has issued a correction as of 11:16 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 11:06
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:a tech exec (allegedly) murdered the cashapp exec all the tech dipshits were blaming his murder on the homeless before this lol
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Apr 14, 2023 11:52
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biceps crimes posted:all the tech dipshits were blaming his murder on the homeless before this lol The old console wars went hot. I bet he disparaged someone's sega megadrive once and the offended person never forgot.
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Apr 14, 2023 12:32
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biceps crimes posted:all the tech dipshits were blaming his murder on the homeless before this lol just pages of these https://twitter.com/craig_evans48/status/1643590349938466816?s=20 https://twitter.com/GgV0gue/status/1643593086604308481?s=20
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Apr 14, 2023 12:41
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My guess was it'd had been an assassination ordered by someone who'd used the service to launder money. Rich people generally aren't going around stabbing each other; I'm expecting some kind of crackdown on new money in the future as a result.
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Apr 14, 2023 12:47
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Cocaine fueled tech stabbing.
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Apr 14, 2023 12:58
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gloom https://twitter.com/bloombergasia/status/1646793423171485697
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Apr 14, 2023 13:04
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Apr 14, 2023 13:11
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The Oldest Man posted:clarification: it's chattel slavery. im well aware slavery in general never went anywhere. Chattel slavery was never fully banned by the 13th Amendment, OP (see the imprisoned folks carve out).
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Apr 14, 2023 13:15
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Horseshoe theory posted:(see the imprisoned folks carve out). that’s not chattel slavery though
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Apr 14, 2023 13:25
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biceps crimes posted:all the tech dipshits were blaming his murder on the homeless before this lol yeah that psycho lady calling for public hangings of meth dealers was in response to/the wake of this lmao
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Apr 14, 2023 13:38
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Horseshoe theory posted:Chattel slavery was never fully banned by the 13th Amendment, OP (see the imprisoned folks carve out). Chattel slavery means slaves are considered property, which was a pretty unique phenomenon in world history, and doesn't apply to the forced labour of conscripts as they are not (explicitly I know I know Amerikkka) assets that can be sold by the state or transferred on balance sheets the same way.
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Apr 14, 2023 13:39
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Frosted Flake posted:Chattel slavery means slaves are considered property, which was a pretty unique phenomenon in world history, and doesn't apply to the forced labour of conscripts as they are not (explicitly I know I know Amerikkka) assets that can be sold by the state or transferred on balance sheets the same way. They're property of the
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Apr 14, 2023 13:52
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Raskolnikov38 posted:that’s not chattel slavery though Got to ask the Supreme Court...
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Apr 14, 2023 13:57
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Cyber Punk 90210 posted:The thing that's great about usenet is it's really easy to automate. Neat
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Apr 14, 2023 14:00
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Cyber Punk 90210 posted:The thing that's great about usenet is it's really easy to automate. overseerr is good to throw into this mix too, like a command center for sonarr and radarr
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Apr 14, 2023 14:15
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Mad Wack posted:overseerr is good to throw into this mix too, like a command center for sonarr and radarr Definitely
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Apr 14, 2023 14:15
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Imprisonment seems really darn similar to ownership imo.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:24
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That Works posted:just pages of these imagine if cops started treating tech executives like they do homeless people lmao
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Apr 14, 2023 14:30
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Imprisonment seems really darn similar to ownership imo. not being explicitly an asset on a balance sheet means the bank doesn't get mad and repossess the plantation-prison when you let an entire building's worth drown in floodwaters, you don't need insurance and when you drag people off the street you didn't have to pay anybody to buy them you just get them for free throw in getting upkeep on your slaves being covered by funds you get from universal taxation and its much more profitable than ownership
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Apr 14, 2023 14:33
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super sweet best pal posted:My guess was it'd had been an assassination ordered by someone who'd used the service to launder money. Rich people generally aren't going around stabbing each other; I'm expecting some kind of crackdown on new money in the future as a result. Just like Trump seizing the levers of power directly or Mark Zuckerberg personally killing a goat, the rich are tired of using middlemen to handle things for them and are doing things directly, either for laughs or to save a few dollars.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:42
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nobody want to go to work (in person 100%) anymore https://twitter.com/sfcpoll/status/1646868460310351875
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Apr 14, 2023 14:45
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:nobody want to go to work (in person 100%) anymore I've had remote work as a perk for over a decade now and it's indispensable wrt just getting normal poo poo done. I have no idea how people who aren't allowed to work remotely occasionally manage with having service people come by, medical appointments, etc. I've got a doctor's appointment around 11:30 today and it's a simple matter of telling my boss "hey, I'm taking my lunch break early" and heading over. If I had to be in an office all day every day I'd have to take PTO time or schedule my appointments on a Saturday six months off. This pandemic made it pretty clear that most office workers can work remotely and they're never putting that back in the box.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:49
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Well also, it was why the Americans were unique in preventing, certainly not recognizing, marriage, breaking up families, frequently reselling slaves, making manumission - even of the mulatto children of slaveowners - illegal etc. Slaves-as-property created pretty insane contradictions in Southern society, and ultimately contributed to why they lost the Civil War. See, they had a desperate manpower shortage and needed to free up white soldiers for the front through the use of black labourers for logistics, engineering and of course the civilian economy. The CSA had passed conscription laws, so in theory this would be pretty straightforward, right? Only, because slaves were property, the state could not levy them. Property rights were the foundation of the Slaveowner's Republic, and so Richmond was unable to "seize the property" of slaveowners. It was why they had seceded! Because the Confederate elites were all self-interested monsters, they absolutely refused to contribute towards any kind of common war effort, because in their minds, they were being stripped of profits - even though they knew if everyone did that the CSA would lose the war and their slaves would be emancipated. There are dozens of examples of the CSA flailing around as their situation got more and more desperate after 1862 and then slaveowners - who made up most of the government anyways - tapping an Air Bud style rule book and saying "sure, we're facing defeat here and every able bodied man is needed for the cause, but you see the 400 labourers on my estate aren't men, and so you have no right to demand them build that fort/road/bridge". e: The underlying ideology of the CSA led to their collapse being jaw dropping. I'm surprised some of these episodes are not talked about more. For example, there was the "Yankee Plague", as escaped slaves and Union prisoners of war not only roamed the countryside in huge numbers, but effectively took over areas of territory as well. Slaves obviously enthusiastically collaborated with Union forces wherever and however possible, but even when they committed acts of outright sabotage including things like guiding Union gunboats down rivers to attack plantations, coordinating mass escapes of slaves to Union lines with local commanders etc. they could not be executed or even imprisoned because property cannot commit treason. It was up to the owners to punish them and by and large they did not - since that would be destroying their own property. In one instance, Confederate soldiers executed the leaders of a slave rebellion and the owner sued the CSA for damages. The officer responsible was severely reprimanded. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 14:57 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 14:49
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Frosted Flake posted:List of things US civil servants have been OK with and did not resign over: From a few pages back but imagine thinking the average civil servant can afford to just up and quit.
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Apr 14, 2023 14:55
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Mad Wack posted:overseerr is good to throw into this mix too, like a command center for sonarr and radarr Well poo poo, that's helpful 
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Apr 14, 2023 14:56
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Hey FF I’d like to hear your thoughts on Grant and the question of what Americans are. I dunno the WWIII thread is probably better for it.
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Apr 14, 2023 15:00
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This is funny as hell. Did the danger of slave mutinies also figure into this calculus? Were they worried about sabotage given the amount of uprisings going on at the time?
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Apr 14, 2023 15:00
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I don't know if Americans are taught how insane American slavery was even by the standards of slavery. Matt Karp has written about it and had a good Chapo episode, but when you followed their ideology to its natural conclusions, which of course happened after succession because they were no longer "constrained", it created levels of dysfunction that annihilated Southern society. Not just for black people, obviously, but for whites as well, the "federal" government in Richmond, the state governments. There were no functioning institutions in the South by Appomattox, and much of what Lost Cause romantics blamed on the Yankees was already happening when Union armies arrived. That's been totally obscured by Reconstruction myths, but to use that domino meme, "slaveowners deciding slaves are property to prevent emancipation in the 1700's" would be in the beginning and "complete breakdown of society" would be at the end.
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Apr 14, 2023 15:02
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It's really weird to dig into the reality of the CSA. It wasn't a capitalist state, to start. The aristocracy was aware of it, and absolutely refused to transition to wage labor. So you ended up with a state that, geographically and demographically, more closely resembled a pre-capitalist small European state or something. The entire CSA had one place that could be called a 'city' without lying, and that was due to the unique way that New Orleans came to be. Otherwise it was purposefully organized as a state that found density anathema: there was no concentration of anything, anywhere. No concentration of capital, population, industry, or labor. It's an incredibly strange place and maybe unique for that point in time, at least as far as I'm aware.
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Apr 14, 2023 15:03
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even going back to the revolution the south was weird like that. Virginia was spread the gently caress out. Any rear end in a top hat could throw up a dock because the rivers were navigable well inland. that means you mostly don’t get big cities. it went on a shockingly long time you even see the end of it in modern music like OCMS https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_-hmhF9cn_k
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Apr 14, 2023 15:08
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material conditions means logistics and transportation folks.
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Apr 14, 2023 15:09
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california prisons brought in 41k revenue per worker on 31k of expenses in 2016 calculating money equivalence by a Beans Standard (how much is a pound of loving beans) this amounts to a profit of $150 a year per inmate in 1860 money 1860 saw cotton production of 4 million bales over a workforce of roughly 4 million slaves, for a profit of very roughly $3.50 a year per slave. Not all of that slave population were involved in the production of cotton directly, but indeed much of the rest of the labor was concerned with the reproduction of their own labor, which does not directly produce profit, and which the prison industry does not need concern itself with at all it simply has an inexhaustible supply of new americans to enslave the specifics of the numbers would obviously change if i took a week to dig out books and journal articles (or accounted for other marginal cash crops, or the food grown that didn't need to be grown otherwise but CALPIA loving grows the crops used in prison food as well so gently caress it tbh) but even finding them is a loving nightmare with google how it is in 2023 (find anything on CALPIA that isn't fawning praise lmao) and the two order of magnitude difference isn't going reverse so i'm pretty loving confident in my conclusion that modern slavery is so profitable its hilarious atelier morgan has issued a correction as of 15:20 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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Apr 14, 2023 15:14
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:nobody want to go to work (in person 100%) anymore here is my idea: let people do what they want to do
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Apr 14, 2023 15:21
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and yes CALPIA gets paid and profits from selling food grown/goods produced by prisoners back to the very prison system supplying the slaves when i worked for CDCR my rear end sat in a chair made by prisoners at a desk made by prisoners i pushed a cart made by prisoners filled with medical charts the binding and folders of which were assembled by prisoners, when i attended trainings the loving snacks and drinks were grown and made by prisoners (and that's why i'm wildly deranged now) this is wildly popular and successful and slave goods are omnipresent in state service because it is a 'cost saving measure' as the furniture/etc is marginally cheaper than that made elsewhere by nonslaves, on account of how the expenses of maintaining the slave population are simply ignored
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Apr 14, 2023 15:26
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Barron's has a piece on the Trump tax cuts that are due to expire in 2025, although I'd be shocked if Congress under either party doesn't extend most of them.quote:The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, signed into law Dec. 22, 2017, and colloquially known as the Trump tax cuts, contained a host of changes to individual tax rates that are set to expire after 2025. At that point, absent congressional action, tax rates for 2026 will revert to the rates payers were subjected to before the change. "Fighting for Congress... extending the cuts" is truly hilarious, given both parties' rush to outdo each other in cutting taxes, the fact that we're heading into an election year, and Biden's vow to not cut taxes for "middle-class" top-5-percent earners making less than $400k. And I'm p. sure that Biden's debt-ceiling proposal to McCarthy assumes that all of the cuts expire, which is funny given the Dem hyperbole at the time the cuts were passed.
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Apr 14, 2023 15:28
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Frosted Flake posted:I don't know if Americans are taught how insane American slavery was even by the standards of slavery. Matt Karp has written about it and had a good Chapo episode, but when you followed their ideology to its natural conclusions, which of course happened after succession because they were no longer "constrained", it created levels of dysfunction that annihilated Southern society. Not just for black people, obviously, but for whites as well, the "federal" government in Richmond, the state governments. There were no functioning institutions in the South by Appomattox, and much of what Lost Cause romantics blamed on the Yankees was already happening when Union armies arrived. Yeah, and parts of the south, specifically Appalachia was pretty mixed as far as the Confederacy went as much of its economy was made up of small holders that didn't have much to gain from a plantation-state. There was considerable resistance against conscription as well. As far as Grant goes, he usually is severely underestimated as general, and while many of the engagements he lead were bloody, he also showed clear results and there is a firm argument to be made that the Vicksburg campaign by 1863 had broken the back of the Confederacy and from that point it was mop up. Gettysburg only determined how long that mop up was going to take.
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Apr 14, 2023 15:33
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just think what would happen if good ole buchanon joe ignored a scrotus ruling we might even turn into a banana republic! civil war (lol) op-eds crying chuds
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