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Outrail posted:Engineers are idiot savants who lucked into finding the one single thing they're good at. My father, maternal grandfather, and father-in-law were all engineers. This statement is very true. My father-in-law used to drive me nuts because I was an IT person who kept having to "fix" their home computer. The biggest problem with their home computer was that it was running Windows XP in TYOOL 2007-2012. He used more modern versions at work, but when it came to home, he was so stubborn. We discussed what that computer needed so many times, and every time I pointed out that he could have it do all he wanted it to do, all that it used to do, but he had to UPGRADE THE OS, he adamantly refused. He passed away in 2013, and once everything settled down, one of the first things my mother-in-law did was buy a brand new computer. BrideOfUglycat fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 14, 2023 |
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tactlessbastard posted:Someone stumbled after catching a foot on a door threshold so we're removing all the thresholds. Holy lol
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rotinaj posted:I hope these estops are like the ones for the sawstop that breaks the whole thing until a part is replaced That's what conveyor belt systems do, at least the ones I'm familiar with. You are not restarting a conveyor system immediately after pulling an e-stop, it's going to be awhile before anything is working again. I also worked at a place where someone came in to test the server room safety procedures and proceeded to flood the room with some inert gas and sever the power lines to the servers. System worked as it should so that was good, took a couple of days to get stuff back up, and that guy was never allowed back in the building.
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Last week had a user who clamed all of her emails since before 11AM that day were missing. Had her check on the webmail and, huh, lookit that, they're really all gone. Sent the ticket to the email team and thought nothing of it. Earlier in the week my boss said the ticket was coming back because... Well it turns out the emails are missing on the server too. And now the user is saying they're missing ALL their files too (They never mentioned it to me). Ticket came back yesterday and before I started digging, I noticed a teammate had another ticket from this lady. I check that ticket and now the user's computer is allegedly not turning on at all. But there's a note from my teammate in the ticket that contains an IM from the user's manager: "Please hold off on this, I am talking to HR about this person."  Today my teammate pings me and closes their ticket. The user has been terminated. What the HELL happened here?
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Apr 14, 2023 22:55
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somebody got fired and the stuff to restrict their access to company materials fired off before they were notified. kind of weird that everything would get deleted off the server but in general that's not insane for when some sort of malfeasance has been discovered or there's feel of retaliation. it's the computers version of being escorted off the premises by security. which in some sectors is actually not uncommon
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Cthulu Carl posted:Last week had a user who clamed all of her emails since before 11AM that day were missing. Had her check on the webmail and, huh, lookit that, they're really all gone. Sent the ticket to the email team and thought nothing of it. Earlier in the week my boss said the ticket was coming back because... Well it turns out the emails are missing on the server too. And now the user is saying they're missing ALL their files too (They never mentioned it to me). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6PSMztkMr4&t=192s
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MarxCarl posted:That's what conveyor belt systems do, at least the ones I'm familiar with. You are not restarting a conveyor system immediately after pulling an e-stop, it's going to be awhile before anything is working again. We had a fire alarm test at the place I worked at years ago. It was initially just the alarms in the work space, but they wanted to check every room. So we had people escorting them, as it was the datacenter for the place I worked. One of the guys wanted to test the alarm button in the server room and was reaching for it when the building manager grabbed him and pulled him away. That button would kill power to the room and deploy the halon. When they came back the next year, we didn't let that guy anywhere near the room.
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Achmed Jones posted:somebody got fired and the stuff to restrict their access to company materials fired off before they were notified. kind of weird that everything would get deleted off the server but in general that's not insane for when some sort of malfeasance has been discovered or there's feel of retaliation. it's the computers version of being escorted off the premises by security. which in some sectors is actually not uncommon Maybe, but our off-boarding is in no way set up to delete emails from the server, like I'm pretty sure that's a huge regulatory no-no with our industry. And to delete them all, EXCEPT ones from 11 AM on? Combined with the other two data points of "PC not turning on" and "All files, even downloads missing" - assuming those are true - something else has gotta be happening. Maybe the war on the Illicit Meme has intensified?
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Sounds like a person who was burning their role down on the way out.
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RC Cola posted:On that note our CEO is having everyone come back to the office Tuesday-Thursday minimum starting in May because he came in for a surprise visit and was sad that there were only 6 people in the office. Someone asked him how they plan to handle the people hired as full remote since covid started, or neurodivergent people and he literally didn't know what neurotypical meant lol. It would be tempting to just not go in and see how it plays out
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Thesaurus posted:It would be tempting to just not go in and see how it plays out I don't know employment law, and I'm sure it varies everywhere, but in the past I've heard this will end in termination as "refused a transfer" or something. Like, if a company moves from NY to AZ but you can't move because of your spouse's employment contract or something.
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It's funny how the reverse is true at our place. People leaving the company often will still have access to a few systems after 1-2 weeks. And new hires often don't have access to any systems, or occasionally even a laptop, for 1-2 weeks after they start. 
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CitizenKain posted:We had a fire alarm test at the place I worked at years ago. It was initially just the alarms in the work space, but they wanted to check every room. So we had people escorting them, as it was the datacenter for the place I worked. One of the guys wanted to test the alarm button in the server room and was reaching for it when the building manager grabbed him and pulled him away. That button would kill power to the room and deploy the halon. So I can only presume it’s never been actually tested and will fail completely when needed. To be fair I don’t know how you test that.
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Pyrtanis posted:For my new job, we have to use Microsoft authenticator for our MFA and doing things requires you to get approval several times, to the point I was reminded of a lab rat hitting a lever. I'm getting so loving sick of MFA systems getting more and more cumbersome. It started with the simple approve/deny (Why even have the deny? Just a dark pattern of something to accidentally tap.) Then it was no, you have to choose one out of 3 numbers. (Why do the numbers change each time? Why not A, B, C?) So now I guess it's going to be typing a stupid number into my phone. We might as well go back to those goddamn RSA keyfobs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z27Ey_FczY&t=473s James Clarke, CEO of Clearlink Technologies in Utah, addresses employees who were given two weeks’ notice to return to the office. Clarke praises an employee for getting rid of the family dog to get back to office and refused to answer the 98 Slido questions employees asked in advance of the meeting. Clarke tells employees who work from home while caring for children that the arrangement is “neither fair to your employer, nor fair to those children,” then tells workers that they’ve mistaken his kindness for weakness and that the executive suite is the place for vigorous debate. The exec team are the only ones who get a say in you having to sell your dog. Good to know.
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~Coxy posted:We might as well go back to those goddamn RSA keyfobs. RSA key fobs rule though
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Comstar posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z27Ey_FczY&t=473s It takes a special workaholic to take care of kids and WFH so it shouldn't be encouraged and these are totally the people sending emails at 11:45 PM. But also the way you don't encourage this is social childcare and gosh we're not communists. History Comes Inside! posted:RSA key fobs rule though
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Apr 15, 2023 14:11
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Comstar posted:So I can only presume it’s never been actually tested and will fail completely when needed. If you're doing proper, full-on disaster recovery testing, you have the parts all ready, the repair staff on-hand and you press the button. But that is something you put in everyone's calender for months beforehand and repeatedly flag through every communications channel you have.
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goatface posted:If you're doing proper, full-on disaster recovery testing, you have the parts all ready, the repair staff on-hand and you press the button. But that is something you put in everyone's calender for months beforehand and repeatedly flag through every communications channel you have. You forgot the part where people still complain that they were not notified and have lost important work/data.
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Of course. But they would be the same people to complain about the disruption if an actual disaster occurred.
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Comstar posted:So I can only presume it’s never been actually tested and will fail completely when needed. I believe another company tests the tank. The electrical kill switch is tested when equipment has moved onto backup power. Its just not tested by hitting the button in the middle of the day.
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~Coxy posted:I'm getting so loving sick of MFA systems getting more and more cumbersome. If your coworkers would stop clicking on the boner pill emails and giving up their credentials with zero resistance, we wouldn’t have to implement more and more stringent MFA standards.
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Freaquency posted:If your coworkers would stop clicking on the boner pill emails and giving up their credentials with zero resistance, we wouldn’t have to implement more and more stringent MFA standards. Coworker here. No. 
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being TotalLossBrain shouldn't mean you also have to be TotalLossDick, fight the good fight and get those boner pills
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Look this poo poo is why I have to mail a cryptex to each employee whenever they want to log in 
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While we're on the subject, I can't believe that some places still use security questions. I feel sorry for anyone who puts their real information in there and expects it to work. As far as I'm concerned, the first car I owned was a. "9926naffDddqc$$$$(dwffejkap"
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Much in the same way that cigarettes and booze would never be approved by the FDA today, I can't imagine any sane company agreeing to use the internet for business stuff if it was introduced in its current form.
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For a company that moves billions of pounds of freight every day there is absolutely NO communication. I can only assume it's because they're making so much profit that no one cares about the dumb poo poo they do. We had a train sitting 10 miles south of Home Terminal (Birmingham) that needed to get to Chattanooga. They taxied a relief crew to it and had them bring it to Birmingham. Because of contract agreements this paid the relief crew an extra day's pay. Then they had my crew get on it and take it about 20 miles north of Birmingham and secure it. This paid us an extra day's pay as well. Then a taxi picked us up and brought us back to Birmingham. When we arrived in Birmingham we discovered the crew that was intended to take the train to Chattanooga had been sitting there for a couple of hours. They could have been taxied to the trains original location a few miles south of Birmingham and taken the train all the way to Chattanooga, saving the railroad several hours and a few thousand dollars in extra wages. If this were a one-off it would be no big deal but this kind of miscommunication happens daily and probably translates into millions of wasted dollars per year. I hope that made sense.
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praxis posted:I hope that made sense. Sounds completely senseless
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~Coxy posted:I'm getting so loving sick of MFA systems getting more and more cumbersome. This one I wonder about. We use MS Authenticator at my company, and clicking 'no' then gives you the option to lock your account and report the activity. This seems like the right next step if somebody suspects they are getting MFA bombed, and I'm surprised other people/companies don't have it?
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CitizenKain posted:We had a fire alarm test at the place I worked at years ago. It was initially just the alarms in the work space, but they wanted to check every room. So we had people escorting them, as it was the datacenter for the place I worked. One of the guys wanted to test the alarm button in the server room and was reaching for it when the building manager grabbed him and pulled him away. That button would kill power to the room and deploy the halon.
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Collateral Damage posted:The only people who are allowed to test the fire supression system in the datacenter are the people who built the fire supression system and know how it works. They left four years ago and were never replaced. I think Kevin knows where the manual is saved.
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EoRaptor posted:This one I wonder about. We use MS Authenticator at my company, and clicking 'no' then gives you the option to lock your account and report the activity. This seems like the right next step if somebody suspects they are getting MFA bombed, and I'm surprised other people/companies don't have it? I think the reason why this isn't more common is "  I gOt LoCkEd OuT oF mY aCcOuNt FoR nO rEaSoN "
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Volmarias posted:I think the reason why this isn't more common is More like "don't give a flying gently caress that someone is trying to get into your account"
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Mmm its my last day at the dumpster fire of a hotel, Im really tempted to just gently caress off since I loathe the train on Saturday. Also I get to work with the lovely centrist FOM because hes so loving bad at scheduling people. Im so happy I got recruited by a big fancy resort, Id rather deal with that crap then ever work for a smaller hotel ever again.
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Volmarias posted:I think the reason why this isn't more common is We have enough employees that this is pretty constant, so adding an additional message to the tooling helpdesk has to say 'you clicked to lock your account in authenticator' was a man hours non-issue. I'd guess a lot of companies that use MFA have done the absolute minimum, and may not even know this is an a option. This is where I'd hope insurance companies eventually step up and create something like UL for securing accounts/networks that tests products, issues certifications, and provides guidelines. Will takes years/decades though.
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goatface posted:If you're doing proper, full-on disaster recovery testing, you have the parts all ready, the repair staff on-hand and you press the button. But that is something you put in everyone's calender for months beforehand and repeatedly flag through every communications channel you have. Would you believe me if I told you the safety team in my previous post told nobody what they were planning to do?
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Agents are GO! posted:Were they trying to brute-force compliance with their wishes or just ignoring your replies? Both, probably. tactlessbastard posted:Would you believe me if I told you the safety team in my previous post told nobody what they were planning to do? I'd believe it. "It can't possibly be that bad, it'll just set off an alarm, right?"
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Agents are GO! posted:Were they trying to brute-force compliance with their wishes or just ignoring your replies? They were ignoring the single line email with the subject and the body the same. I called out the department head this morning because they have been texting my work phone (which is on for reasons this weekend through test time Tuesday, in case I need to get hold of a licensing coordinator or there's a last minute problem since this is a big fuckin deal) about training conflicts and the situation. They are very sorry and it should not be a problem going forward. I'll hold my breath.
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