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Twerk from Home posted:Flood insurance is hosed. There's a bunch of lobbying and interests to keep people rebuilding over and over. Just live in a non-operational land based oil rig like structure. Should be able to weather any storms. Or build a house made of ice cream sticks, never live in it and just collect insurance cheques.
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Apr 15, 2023 14:30
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Build a dome over your house and live underwater as necessary.
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Apr 15, 2023 14:36
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Build a dome over your house and live underwater as necessary. Now that's innovation.
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Apr 15, 2023 14:36
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I know I posted about it post-Harvey, but they let developers build houses inside a flood control reservoir and then sold them to people who didn't realize it, so when the rains came these peoples houses were upstream of the dam and flooded as designed by the Army Corps of Engineers. Anyway, they're going to get a huge payday, I guess when the government builds a levee and then you build a house after on the wrong side of it, that's "government induced flooding". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barker_Reservoir quote:Total compensation for the ~10,000 upstream property owners who suffered government-induced flooding could reach or exceed $1.7 billion before interest. drat government.
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Apr 15, 2023 14:44
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Twerk from Home posted:I know I posted about it post-Harvey, but they let developers build houses inside a flood control reservoir and then sold them to people who didn't realize it, so when the rains came these peoples houses were upstream of the dam and flooded as designed by the Army Corps of Engineers. Background: these reservoirs sit on the west side of Houston and are V shaped flood plains where the point of the V discharges into the city and out to sea and the upper part of the V backs up into suburbs. Developers literally sued the corps of engineers to be able to build housing inside the V. People that bought the houses had no idea they were inside a dam - you would have no idea just driving around. One of the great parts about this is that post Harvey the more affluent suburb counties sued the corps of engineers for not opening the dams earlier and instead flooding houses. Opening the dams literally sends a wall of water into downtown poorer areas and I think did end up killing people. They had to open them anyway after they filled up to the point it was risking overtopping the berms. The counties downstream also sued arguing they should have let the reservoirs continue to fill instead of intentionally opening them and you know, killing people. The affluent counties won their suit and those folks are looking at recovering funds. The poor areas had their suit dismissed.
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Apr 15, 2023 15:18
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Cpt_Obvious posted:One of these days the idiot trumpists are going to have enough leverage to do something really, really stupid and the debt ceiling looks like the lowest hanging fruit. I'm a moderate Democrat overall and I'm open to a lot of moderate Democrat Jared Golden's debt ceiling proposals, except he doesn’t propose defusing the nuclear hand grenade of the debt ceiling as a condition of the deal. Which is critical because even if Biden somehow conceded to balancing the budget entirely through mass austerity, interest payments on the debt would eventually necessitate a further debt ceiling increase, which an increasingly radicalized GOP will threaten to blow up to demand concessions, risking the eventuality they go too far and do blow it up. Logic same as Obama era – there’s no ‘reasonable compromise’ because if GOP keeps weapon they will pocket concessions, move goalposts then demand more. Serious deal must take weapon away. It's my understanding no other advanced economy has our nuclear hand grenade style debt ceiling where the entire debt is de facto defaulted on if the legislature fails to raise it. Some others had similar system in past, but they all changed it because nobody else is so stupid. It doesn’t even make sense as a way to force spending discipline because other advanced economies that did balance their budgets did so without a nuclear hand grenade debt ceiling threat. A more sane debt ceiling when breached could stop further federal spending that would require new debt issuance, a bit like a government shutdown. Or just reform it so congressional appropriations also require a commensurate debt ceiling increase. But maintaining status quo is indefensible moronic baby boomer centrist bullshit. It doesn’t work to cause austerity anyways.
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Apr 15, 2023 15:23
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Twerk from Home posted:Flood insurance is hosed. There's a bunch of lobbying and interests to keep people rebuilding over and over. It's so loving cool that we set up a program to pay people to live in flood areas. Literally the wisest idea in history
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Apr 15, 2023 15:29
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Spaced God posted:It's so loving cool that we set up a program to pay people to live in flood areas. Literally the wisest idea in history The answer to hbomberguy's "sell the houses to who?!?!?!" question is going to be "the US government"
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Apr 15, 2023 15:31
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Eregos posted:. Personally I prefer more a balance between inflation, taxing the rich and austerity. Biden and the democrats want to defund social services same as Republicans and use the debt fight as cover to show their hands are tied and had to negotiate. The hand grenade exists for that purpose by design, not by accident. It’s all theater.
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Apr 15, 2023 15:49
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Orvin posted:Not just any old commercial. A curated collection of vintage commercials. Back when they had art direction and … I feel sorry for the hairdressers who were put out of work after Big Hair and Perms for Men were no longer au courant.
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Apr 15, 2023 15:54
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is pepsi ok posted:This is a very common problem here. A lot of people assume their homeowners insurance covers flooding but it's a separate policy you have to get. These stories pop up every time there's a hurricane. It's pretty stupid for the bank to loan money without stipulating you must have flood insurance.
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Apr 15, 2023 15:55
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:It's pretty stupid for the bank to loan money without stipulating you must have flood insurance. Not when you repackage them into bespoke Mortgage-Backed Securities! *taps haed*
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Apr 15, 2023 15:58
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Eregos posted:Exactly. Here likely not ideal asking place but I'm curious who agrees with my take on debt ceiling. I'd guess lot of people around here think inflating out of the deficit with progressive programs as way to undermine the rich while protecting the poor is superior to austerity as debt solution. Personally I prefer more a balance between inflation, taxing the rich and austerity. loving libs
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Apr 15, 2023 15:59
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that, and on an individual plot basis, some math between risk of flood, chance owner walks away, and future development potential probably all combine to make it profitable. add in the chance a flood is considered a federal disaster area and you're bailed out anyway
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Apr 15, 2023 16:00
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:It's pretty stupid for the bank to loan money without stipulating you must have flood insurance. Horseshoe theory posted:Not when you repackage them into bespoke Mortgage-Backed Securities! *taps haed* Yeah the bank owns the mortgage for about 10 seconds, if the flood is unlucky enough to hit during that time, then the lobbyists come out.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:02
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/WaitingOnBiden/status/1646533790724915204 Reminds me of an old Colbert Report segment on Child Labor which I couldn't find, but I did find https://www.santiagohs.org/apps/video/watch.jsp?v=25095 and https://www.cc.com/video/xr7q4y/the-colbert-report-fallback-position-migrant-worker-pt-1 which is even better. The one I was looking for had Colbert saying something like 'How can we outlaw child farm labor when their small, soft delicate hands are so perfect for picking ripe fruit?' which I always thought was such a hilarious way to covertly argue against child labor.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:15
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caelxii posted:Biden and the democrats want to defund social services same as Republicans and use the debt fight as cover to show their hands are tied and had to negotiate. The hand grenade exists for that purpose by design, not by accident. It’s all theater. I disagree, I think that's overly cynical. If all Biden wants to do is cut services and social investment, why did the Democrats pass so much lower income and middle class aid in the American Rescue Plan and Inflation Reduction Act? Yes, those had a lot of compromises in order to pass. Fundamentally I tend to take people closer to their word in politics. The centrists who defend the status quo on the debt ceiling have some delusion or at least lack of prioritization that prevents them realizing how risky it is. If you talk to the voters who think this way, they will tell you things along these lines.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:30
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Eregos posted:Exactly. Here likely not ideal asking place but I'm curious who agrees with my take on debt ceiling. I'd guess lot of people around here think inflating out of the deficit with progressive programs as way to undermine the rich while protecting the poor is superior to austerity as debt solution. Personally I prefer more a balance between inflation, taxing the rich and austerity. What does this mean?
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Apr 15, 2023 16:36
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because those voters are conditioned to believe the "truth is in the middle, we have to compromise," etc. etc. the world we live in is built. it's all decisions. we can eliminate the debt ceiling and give everyone what they need with a pen. you have abundant evidence of this. people don't get what they really need. they get excuses and delays and tiny improvements sold to them as the best result of bargaining with "the other guys," when all lawmakers know each other and they're buddies and safe and comfortable i have no idea what you think you're doing trying to argue this around here Eregos posted:Fundamentally I tend to take people closer to their word in politics.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:37
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Eregos posted:I disagree, I think that's overly cynical. If all Biden wants to do is cut services and social investment, why did the Democrats pass so much lower income and middle class aid in the American Rescue Plan and Inflation Reduction Act? Yes, those had a lot of compromises in order to pass. Fundamentally I tend to take people closer to their word in politics. The centrists who defend the status quo on the debt ceiling have some delusion or at least lack of prioritization that prevents them realizing how risky it is. If you talk to the voters who think this way, they will tell you things along these lines. I want to respond to your post but you're going to have to clarify which aid you're talking about here, because the vast majority of it came in the form of subsidies that are absolutely an attempt reduce direct government services and minimize government responsibility for critical social goods such as healthcare. poo poo like that isn't a compromise, it's fundamental to conservative Democratic ideology
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Apr 15, 2023 16:39
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I am for massive cuts and austerity and for the yields of American bonds to skyrocket.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:40
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Eregos posted:Fundamentally I tend to take people closer to their word in politics why tho politicians lie all the time lol
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Apr 15, 2023 17:00
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we can fix them
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Apr 15, 2023 17:00
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"well you see i, a willing rube, find the Middle Path to be most appealing,"
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Apr 15, 2023 17:04
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seems to be much cheaper to order individual sandwiches and split a large fries, drink soda at home from Mcdonalds now, I mean it always was but now its pretty significant savings
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Apr 15, 2023 17:04
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Cpt_Obvious posted:What does this mean? The system must contain suffering.
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Apr 15, 2023 17:48
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As a moderate banana republic supporter we must inflate our posts to further a progressive cause
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Apr 15, 2023 17:51
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Eregos posted:Exactly. Here likely not ideal asking place but I'm curious who agrees with my take on debt ceiling. I'd guess lot of people around here think inflating out of the deficit with progressive programs as way to undermine the rich while protecting the poor is superior to austerity as debt solution. Personally I prefer more a balance between inflation, taxing the rich and austerity. lol
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Apr 15, 2023 18:01
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i'm more of a severe democrat myself
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Apr 15, 2023 18:03
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i genuinely cannot comprehend a moderate democrat positng in cspam
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Apr 15, 2023 18:32
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Eregos posted:Exactly. Here likely not ideal asking place but I'm curious who agrees with my take on debt ceiling. I'd guess lot of people around here think inflating out of the deficit with progressive programs as way to undermine the rich while protecting the poor is superior to austerity as debt solution. Personally I prefer more a balance between inflation, taxing the rich and austerity. are you lost or
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Apr 15, 2023 18:34
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I had severe Democrat and they put me on SSRIs
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Apr 15, 2023 18:35
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what the hell is a moderate democrat anyway
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Apr 15, 2023 18:36
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HallelujahLee posted:what the hell is a moderate democrat anyway you wait for the polling numbers before ascribing to means tested racism
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Apr 15, 2023 18:37
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:you wait for the polling numbers before ascribing to means tested racism going to start means testing all our posts
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Apr 15, 2023 18:39
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Eregos unironically like you're right in that in a perfect world a lot of what you're saying would be correct and would happen. That probably looks like something I would have wrote like a decade ago. The problem is we are fully decoupled from sanity and reality and the people in control actively want to hurt people and know they will only be enriched instead of punished for doing so
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Apr 15, 2023 18:39
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Spaced God posted:i genuinely cannot comprehend a moderate democrat positng in cspam He's fourteen years too late to troll lf
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Apr 15, 2023 18:42
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I am an extreme centrist democrat, and oppose all action of any kind, as it merely chains us to the cycle of samsara
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Apr 15, 2023 18:48
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Old Story posted:I am an extreme centrist democrat, and oppose all action of any kind, as it merely chains us to the cycle of samsara I endorse this message
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Apr 15, 2023 18:49
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btw this made me start the process of wiping my old pc to turn it into a plex server thank you goonfriend
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