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Mr Interweb posted:wait, why? It came off a little sexist, "Oh, women and their emotions" and all.
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Splicer posted:For a woman who says women should be meek and submissive she sure does express a lot of opinions. Sarah Connor? Cancelled. Ellen Ripley? Cancelled. Princess Leia? Cancelled. Bo Katan? Cancelled. Captain Janeway? Cancelled. Starbuck (2005)? Cancelled. Brienne of Tarth? Cancelled. Rey "Skywalker"? Cancelled. Sabrina Fairchild? Cancelled. Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Cancelled. Imagine a life where all the media you can consume are properties where Kevin Sorbo had creative control.
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Don't forget Xena Warrior Princess.  Lucy Lawless has been trolling the poo poo out of Kevin Sorbo on Twitter for years nowHere's one from just a few days ago https://twitter.com/RealLucyLawless/status/1642961004933054464 Word has it that he's always been super mad that her spin-off show beat his in the ratings, got bigger budgets and won more awards Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 02:22 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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I keep forgetting Xena was a spinoff from Hercules. Are either of thkse worth watching nowadays, or have they aged like fine milk from a particularly diseased cow?
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Randalor posted:I keep forgetting Xena was a spinoff from Hercules. Are either of thkse worth watching nowadays, or have they aged like fine milk from a particularly diseased cow? Ehh for being 3000 year old myths there’s some surprisingly progressive ideas
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Xena is good fun. You have to know what you're getting, it's kinda trashy, but it's still fun.
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Xena is dumb fun. Hercules is mostly just dumb. Did Jack of All Trades age badly? I legit have not watched it since first run and it was my very first intro to Bruce Campbell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhS5xMK845U
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mind the walrus posted:Xena is dumb fun. Hercules is mostly just dumb. Did Jack of All Trades age badly? I legit have not watched it since first run and it was my very first intro to Bruce Campbell: I bought the DVD box set and couldn't make it past like two episodes. gently caress it is so awkwardly bad.
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Via the comicbook movies thread in CD, someone mentioned Dwayne McDuffie and his satirical TNNT pitch: .... which started a discussion about Night Thrasher Everyone posted:Not for nothing but Night Thrasher actually debuted as a Marvel character in Thor in Dec. of 1989. I don't recall him using a skateboard. Snowglobe of Doom posted:Let me jog your memory, lol
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HopperUK posted:Xena is good fun. You have to know what you're getting, it's kinda trashy, but it's still fun. I seem to recall it got kind of bad in the latter seasons, which sadly IIRC was also when it got most overt with the queer subtext? Like I seem to remember it going more into Christian mythology and sort of taking itself a bit too seriously? Also seem to remember Hercules having some good episodes set in the modern day? Or were those only on Xena? I know Xena had them, for sure, but I think they began on Herc?
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credburn posted:It's called WrongThink, though. Is this not satire? If all these idiots want to constantly reference 1984 they should at least get the Newspeak right. Wrongthink is ungoodspeakful.
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Croccers posted:Yeah the game where you touch the screen to change her emotions at will (for the most part). Ok sure they worked in solid cartoon logic way, like Cry on a plant to make it grow, Rage to break through stuff but like why not make it Luigi? The game was pretty decent aside from that. They already had multiple games where Luigi rescues Mario. Super Princess Peach is a weird game. They have a whole thing with her talking umbrella that doesn't really go anywhere, and a lot of it is recycled Yoshi's Island and Super Mario World sprites. It's got almost fangame vibes. And yeah, the whole emotion thing is weird, though it's pretty interestingly played- one of the themes is that everyone's emotions are out of whack, so there's enemy variants that are crying or furious or happy and behave differently.
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HopperUK posted:Xena is good fun. You have to know what you're getting, it's kinda trashy, but it's still fun. Until Ted Raimi shows up at the end of the first season and makes it completely loving unwatchable.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:They already had multiple games where Luigi rescues Mario. It was a solid but forgettable platformer. I think one of the main reasons it's still remembered is that it was used as an example by Anita Sarkeesian in one of her first videos. Meaning that if some future historian is going to write about the rise of fascism in America, they are going to stumble on weird neckbeards triggered over the critique of a cartoon princess. gently caress, the last decade was weird.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Don't forget Xena Warrior Princess. I seem to recall Renée O'Connor is chud-adjacent too.
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Torquemada posted:I seem to recall Renée O'Connor is chud-adjacent too. Just saw that her last film was with the same company as God's Not Dead, so there's no way she's not a zealot
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Her Instagram seems to be strongly LGBTQ+ supportive, strongly BLM, she's a huge fan of Greta Thunberg and Kamala Harris, etc..  https://www.instagram.com/realreneeoconnor/?hl=en
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Squashy posted:Just saw that her last film was with the same company as God's Not Dead, so there's no way she's not a zealot She's done a couple at least, and talked about them on Fox News, which fits my definition of adjacent. I'm willing to adjust my opinion though.
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On Xena. The producers at the time were fervently against Xena and Gabrielle being explicitly a couple. Due to the homophobia of the time, (Golly aren't we all glad that the homophobia problem in mainstream media has been eradicated eh?) But the writers, actors, and everyone else involved made sure that the show went all the way up to having them all but hold hands, and whilst lovingly looking in each others eyes turn to the camera and say "we are two women in a romantic relationship. We enjoy a sexual love for each other." And because they didn't take that one list final step, the producers and censors were fine with it and allowed it to run, silly camp, obviously gay show that it was. I also seem to remember that both the stars themselves have said that they played the two of them as lovers. And to this day it remains like a Top Gun situation where homophobes will watch the show about two lesbians yet claim to their dying breath that they were just good friends. (On the Top Gun stuff. I had an argument at work once with a bloke who said there was absolutely nothing gay about a film where glistening shirtless muscley handsome men cavort playing beach volleyball, before retiring to the locker room to bitch about each other.)
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BrigadierSensible posted:And to this day it remains like a Top Gun situation where homophobes will watch the show about two lesbians yet claim to their dying breath that they were just good friends. I'm not disagreeing with you about Top Gun, but we have a problem in this country/western culture where men can't really be friends with each other the way women can without it being perceived as 'gay'. I don't know what the solution is.
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Renee O'Connor keeps coming up due to that, and I'll defend Gabriella here. As someone already pointed out, her social media is very supportive of LGBT+ and BLM and we don't have any reason to doubt the sincerity of that. She has done one movie for the Christian film studio Pure Flix. It's true that Pure Flix has people like Kevin Sorbo and Melissa Joan Hart who are all about that poo poo, but their movies also have tons of character actors who aren't chuds who are there because actors need/want to work and it's a paying gig. The film industry isn't like other types of work, work is infamously unreliable and actors and crew members work on films and shows that aren't reflective of their values or are made by studios that aren't in sync with their views either. It's not like Gwyneth Paltrow endorses Harvey Weinstein because she appeared in movies produced by Miramax. Pure Flix also specifically notes that they work with cast and crew of all faiths. You can argue it was a bad decision, and maybe it was, but I don't think it's fair to lump her in with a bunch of shitheads for it. https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/xena-warrior-princess-sidekick-renee-oconnor-talks-starring-in-a-faith-based-film This was the only interview I could find on Fox News about it and it's a pretty boilerplate "actress in a movie speaks positively of the movie and says everyone is welcome to watch it" type of interview, not some wild-eyed zealotry. Any professional who worked on a movie would say the same thing.
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BrigadierSensible posted:And to this day it remains like a Top Gun situation where homophobes will watch the show about two lesbians yet claim to their dying breath that they were just good friends. I like how the love interest in Top Gun starts dressing like one of the boys before Cruise gets really interested.
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Beachcomber posted:I'm not disagreeing with you about Top Gun, but we have a problem in this country/western culture where men can't really be friends with each other the way women can without it being perceived as 'gay'. I don't know what the solution is. The problem with the gay thesis of top gun is that half the run time is devoted to a heterosexual romance.
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Spazzle posted:The problem with the gay thesis of top gun is that half the run time is devoted to a heterosexual romance. I hate to break it to you, but "highway through the danger zone" is a euphemism.
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Dopilsya posted:It's true that Pure Flix has people like Kevin Sorbo and Melissa Joan Hart who are all about that poo poo, Wait, Melissa Joan Hart is a chud? Well that sucks. My wife likes Sabrina.
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Randalor posted:Wait, Melissa Joan Hart is a chud? Well that sucks. My wife likes Sabrina. Has been for ages. She campaigned for Bush through the 2000s. Edit: why the gently caress do I remember seeing a d lister endorse W in like 2003.
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I recently mentioned Xena after my daughter whipped a frisbee like a chakra. She's like, who? So I explained she was a badass warrior queen. Then I explained it spun off Hercules. Then I had to explain Hercules was a "real" myth but Xena wasn't "real", "just a story" that it was based off "real myths" but Hercules was based off myths that were "real" and the conversation got real confusing.
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A Sometimes Food posted:Has been for ages. She campaigned for Bush through the 2000s. Huh, that's unfortunate. I'm willing to forgive people campaigning for Bush in the early 00's cause 9/11 broke a lot of people, but it's unfortunate that she's decided that was her hole, it was made for her.
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Beachcomber posted:I'm not disagreeing with you about Top Gun, but we have a problem in this country/western culture where men can't really be friends with each other the way women can without it being perceived as 'gay'. I don't know what the solution is. The underlying problem here lies not with those who see top gun as gay but with those who think being seen as gay is so terrible that they can't risk having a friend because of it. Like that societal rot goes loving deep and is not caused by people reading top gun as gay
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Beachcomber posted:I'm not disagreeing with you about Top Gun, but we have a problem in this country/western culture where men can't really be friends with each other the way women can without it being perceived as 'gay'. I don't know what the solution is. Hell, when i was a kid people would tease little boys for liking girls. I remember that being a thing when i was a kid, like four or five, if i played with a girl my aunts or older sister would be unrelenting, making fun of me, trying to force us to kiss for pictures that the would pull out later to embarrass me with, real weird poo poo, and it felt pretty common. I always think of that whenever someone tells a story about a little boy hitting a girl and adults playing it off as "it's a love tap, he likes her!". I just don't get it, we connected affection to humiliation for months now he lashes out? whats up with that?
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Liking someone strongly affects you and makes you act in strange irrational ways, such as hitting them. That’s where the word “affection” comes from.
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oldpainless posted:Liking someone strongly affects you and makes you act in strange irrational ways, such as hitting them. That’s where the word “affection” comes from. More like oldblameless
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WaywardWoodwose posted:Hell, when i was a kid people would tease little boys for liking girls. I remember that being a thing when i was a kid, like four or five, if i played with a girl my aunts or older sister would be unrelenting, making fun of me, trying to force us to kiss for pictures that the would pull out later to embarrass me with, real weird poo poo, and it felt pretty common. I always think of that whenever someone tells a story about a little boy hitting a girl and adults playing it off as "it's a love tap, he likes her!". I just don't get it, we connected affection to humiliation for months now he lashes out? whats up with that? Buddy, wait til you see how far anime has taken this poo poo.
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fr fr someone weebier than me please explain bulma/chi-chi/goku in OG db
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WaywardWoodwose posted:Hell, when i was a kid people would tease little boys for liking girls. I remember that being a thing when i was a kid, like four or five, if i played with a girl my aunts or older sister would be unrelenting, making fun of me, trying to force us to kiss for pictures that the would pull out later to embarrass me with, real weird poo poo, and it felt pretty common. I always think of that whenever someone tells a story about a little boy hitting a girl and adults playing it off as "it's a love tap, he likes her!". I just don't get it, we connected affection to humiliation for months now he lashes out? whats up with that? This poo poo sucks and the type of people you can imagine wouldn't get that is harmful still do it. Happened all the time in my family growing up where if you were friends with a girl, you would be made fun of. When my grandpa tried to pull it on my zoomer little brother (making him kiss a girl friend) I shut that poo poo down and he got offended about it. No more. Not another generation of gay panic. Not one. CJacobs has a new favorite as of 16:11 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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Toshimo posted:fr fr someone weebier than me please explain bulma/chi-chi/goku in OG db Goku is a brain-damaged alien who doesn't know what sex or romantic love is and only barely understands that there are different genders
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Toshimo posted:fr fr someone weebier than me please explain bulma/chi-chi/goku in OG db Bulma was a gun-toting psycho genius who was hunting down dragon balls so she could wish for a boyfriend, got a boyfriend in Yamcha during the search. Pops up every so often after the first arc. Chi-Chi- daughter of one of Master Roshi's students, first introduced as a child slightly younger than Goku and proposed to him, Goku accepted. Several years later, a grown-up Chi-Chi entered the World's Strongest tournament and made it into the Top 8. Fights Goku and loses but reminded him of his promise. Series ends with them flying off together on the cloud. Goku- Indestructible monkey-boy, happy-go-lucky idiot who just wants to get stronger, have good fights, eat good food and wants everyone to get along. Wins over the son of the Demon King through the power of being obnoxiously good. This is just based off of the OG DragonBall, before "Oops, all aliens" became the main plot.
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Asterite34 posted:Goku is a brain-damaged alien who doesn't know what sex or romantic love is and only barely understands that there are different genders Despite this, he has a wife, two kids, and a fight-husband who is a prince.
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Dopilsya posted:Renee O'Connor keeps coming up due to that, and I'll defend Gabriella here. As someone already pointed out, her social media is very supportive of LGBT+ and BLM and we don't have any reason to doubt the sincerity of that Well, I'm sorry I jumped to a poor conclusion on that, I do like her character. 🙂 Learning what Melissa Joan Hart was into made me sad, because she was totally a childhood crush
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GreenMetalSun posted:Despite this, he has a wife, two kids, and a fight-husband who is a prince. But he's also a literal dead beat dad
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