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ikanreed posted:The gently caress is an mfg index? I thought I'd heard all the economics slang in the world at this point Measures the value of Magic the Gathering cards that have a typo in them and thus are Magic fhe Gathering (It's actually a measurement of manufacturing, in this case within the state of NY) forkboy84 has issued a correction as of 14:07 on Apr 17, 2023 |
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Eregos posted:Reminds me of an old Colbert Report segment on Child Labor which I couldn't find, but I did find https://www.santiagohs.org/apps/video/watch.jsp?v=25095 and This is pretty funny stuff but also hilarious because Colbert's line about child exploitation being good is just the standard Republican/some Dem line currently. A prime example of why you can't do political satire anymore.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:04
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Harik posted:that's true it's completely unfair to compare two technologies that have differing hypothetical usecases, neither of which are any good at even the made-up problems they purport to solve. ok
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Apr 17, 2023 14:05
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no one has been able to demonstrate a use
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Apr 17, 2023 14:09
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it just seems silly to immediately say they are the same as a ticket you pay for that says you own a jpeg but you are free to believe what you want
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Apr 17, 2023 14:11
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Harik posted:that's true it's completely unfair to compare two technologies that have differing hypothetical usecases, neither of which are any good at even the made-up problems they purport to solve. BERT's inclusion in google's search has probably been responsible for a good chunk of its increasing shitness since 2018 (https://blog.google/products/search/search-language-understanding-bert/). BERT isn't exactly the same as the GPT/LaMDA but they both use the same underlying math. it's become pretty difficult to drill down and refine results since around then that whatever bullshit these LLMs bring when incorporated might actually be better. probably not, but it'd be hard to be worse.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:13
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ikanreed posted:The gently caress is an mfg index? I thought I'd heard all the economics slang in the world at this point The Motherfucking Index is the index to end all indexes
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Apr 17, 2023 14:14
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Harik posted:except the conversation wasn't about sugar water, it was about people mistakenly believing there was competition in carbonated (non-sugar) water. There's not. It's still coke & pepsi, but they both have a bajillion labels for the same product to fill the shelves with "choice" There is competition on the low end, but even the discount trash doubled: Shasta used to be $2/12, now it's $4. But booze didn't budge at all, hell it's cheaper than ever after adjusting for inflation. I just don't get it.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:16
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These things can be pretty good as front-line agents into search engines / knowledge bases but they can't really replace them, and to fine tune them so they don't have the host of general issues is like at least ~$35k in hardware or $3k/shot in cloud spend. I will be responsible for something running a version of lucene until I die, retire, or time stops.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:17
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PostNouveau posted:The Motherfucking Index is the index to end all indexes
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Apr 17, 2023 14:18
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:it just seems silly to immediately say they are the same as a ticket you pay for that says you own a jpeg but you are free to believe what you want I don't know if these posters are saying it's a 1:1 thing, so much as the same grifters hyping up NFTs as a revolutionary technology are also hyping up LLMs as the destruction of white collar work and that you should buy my $300 AI course on Udemy today, special price for my amazing subscribers only!
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Apr 17, 2023 14:23
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google search is almost unusable now with how wrong it always is and it uses the same sort of poo poo as chatgpt, it will never do anything because it has no intelligence behind it and will always give you wrong answers, it’s a magic trick for rubes
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Apr 17, 2023 14:23
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/BadEmpanada/status/1647815470676836354?t=mRl5xqMavTTQ-H368cwMRg&s=19 I've always dismissed those stupid graphs of "2000 years of GDP growth" or whatever, but it's genuinely hilarious to see economists earnestly state their supposed methodology for arriving at their bullshit
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Apr 17, 2023 14:26
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Beached Whale posted:I don't know if these posters are saying it's a 1:1 thing, so much as the same grifters hyping up NFTs as a revolutionary technology are also hyping up LLMs as the destruction of white collar work and that you should buy my $300 AI course on Udemy today, special price for my amazing subscribers only! it seems like a lot of posters are saying it's a 1:1 thing
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Apr 17, 2023 14:26
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MBA types are impressed both by the "power" of AI and the "marketability" of crypto and NFT's so they are here to stay.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:34
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Maed posted:google search is almost unusable now with how wrong it always is and it uses the same sort of poo poo as chatgpt, it will never do anything because it has no intelligence behind it and will always give you wrong answers, it’s a magic trick for rubes yeah. it uses BERT to turn prompts into mush. works great if you're searching for stuff to buy near you that actually exists or, very specifically, airline tickets. there's a very small chance that if they overhaul things to use lamda or whatever they end up using it might not be quite as poo poo due some differences. you can already refine bard 'searches' (not really searches, but prompts) better than you can most google searches which kind of just stagnate, drop keywords, add them, etc. it probably wont actually be better but it'd be difficult to be worse.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:44
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Skinnymansbeerbelly posted:There is competition on the low end, but even the discount trash doubled: Shasta used to be $2/12, now it's $4. But booze didn't budge at all, hell it's cheaper than ever after adjusting for inflation. are you in a control state? that will have a lot to do with it. licensure procedures, concentration etc are all heavily regulated here in NY at my shop booze is up probably 12-15% since the holidays 2021, so I’d say yeah overall we’re lagging the greater pricepocalypse. there’s a zillion factors that go into it though: distributors must have their pricing preapproved by the state monthly, so there’s a nominal regulatory step between producers and retailers. if you’re like me and serve a poor community there’s a lot of ability to work my rear end off to keep prices low. our distributors do volume discounts within a range that’s accessible to small shops on strategic bulk buys, which I’m always monitoring . prices are "sticky" too because we price by purchase and leave it, so for slow moving products you won’t see a price change for months on end. of course when we next have to order, well, good luck. overhead is crazy low, im da only guy. blah blah grain of salt because every state is different because the United States is dumb as gently caress
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Apr 17, 2023 14:45
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BULBASAUR posted:thats also an app, op If they're putting it on their website I'm going to take that as an endorsement and use it, deal with it.
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Apr 17, 2023 14:48
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ikanreed posted:The gently caress is an mfg index? I thought I'd heard all the economics slang in the world at this point "Mit freundlichen Grüssen" it's a German "Kind Regards" basically
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Apr 17, 2023 14:55
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Bar Ran Dun posted:this one’s a stretch. No, it's previous agreements that these failed banks like SVB agreed to when buying out smaller banks that traditionally lent to lower income communities. It was supposed to be the lowest bar for public benefit being accrued from these fucks swallowing smaller fishes that actually bothered to lend to non-billionaires, and the fact that their failure means that they don't have to do it is hosed. e: fb
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Apr 17, 2023 15:14
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Couldn't that just be the earmarks it took to get GOP members to support the Dem bills?
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Apr 17, 2023 15:18
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euphronius posted:no one has been able to demonstrate a use AI is good at generating subtitles. speech to text is way better now than it was 5 to 10 years ago. I use subtitles a lot so I appreciate it maybe that's not considered AI even though it's based off all the same principles cause it doesn't generate a weird picture
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Apr 17, 2023 15:26
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Gorson posted:MBA types are impressed both by the "power" of AI and the "marketability" of crypto and NFT's so they are here to stay. edit: think I got whooshed.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:28
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being able to accurately transcribe spoken text super easily is also a bad thing but it does mean better subtitles on YouTube
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Apr 17, 2023 15:29
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Casey Finnigan posted:being able to accurately transcribe spoken text super easily is also a bad thing but it does mean better subtitles on YouTube Why is it a bad thing?
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Apr 17, 2023 15:30
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because my phone hears me talking to my nephew and then I get ads for products that coincidentally have the same name as my nephew, etc
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Apr 17, 2023 15:31
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Sounds like a problem with pervasive advertising and surveillance, not necessarily with the speech-recognition technology itself. I use speech2text daily. Between that and the notes app on my phone I'm about 1/10th as socially isolated as I was in the 00s and early 10s.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:33
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they do not accurately transcribe. maybe 95% in good conditions . a bit higher in perfect conditions I suppose that is good enough for advertising bots
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Apr 17, 2023 15:34
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euphronius posted:they do not accurately transcribe. maybe 95% in good conditions . a bit higher in perfect conditions That's better than the average human's auditory comprehension of what another person is saying. The ear folk mishear poo poo frequently.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:38
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possibly. however the AI understands 0% so a bit behind the ball there
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Apr 17, 2023 15:40
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it's pretty easy to stick to the position of "there are no use cases" when every time a use case gets brought up you just say "nuh uh"
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Apr 17, 2023 15:40
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advertising is not a use
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Apr 17, 2023 15:40
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Tech Journalism has done a lot of talking about the possibilities of Euphronius's posts, but have yet to demonstrate a use case outside the NBA thread
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Apr 17, 2023 15:45
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:it's pretty easy to stick to the position of "there are no use cases" when every time a use case gets brought up you just say "nuh uh" The only acceptable response is “yeah huh”
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Apr 17, 2023 15:46
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AI will never replace Stephen A. Smith.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:46
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https://twitter.com/staffordphilip/status/1647971269558534145?t=RQEufAg202MWAlLjOH5GYw&s=19
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Apr 17, 2023 15:49
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:it's pretty easy to stick to the position of "there are no use cases" when every time a use case gets brought up you just say "nuh uh" Because outside of a specific small set, the amount of some combo of work, money and liability kills it consistently, and these companies are bleeding money for a reason.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:51
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Casey Finnigan posted:because my phone hears me talking to my nephew and then I get ads for products that coincidentally have the same name as my nephew, etc It's very likely not listening to you in that way. They don't need to do that to target you in that manner because they'd get huge PR blowback (maybe even legal blowback) if they were caught doing it. It's a bit dated, but Reply All had a good episode covering this. https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/z3hlwr The gist is that if Facebook knows you're his uncle and you gave it permission to know your location/calls/etc., then it knows you called him (or his mother or whatever) recently and THAT can be the basis for ads to you. It doesn't need to spy on the contents of the call. This same logic would hold for any sufficiently large tech/advertising platform. It's still creepy as all gently caress, but likely not literally listening in on your calls like the NSA.
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Apr 17, 2023 15:52
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StratGoatCom posted:Because outside of a specific small set, the amount of some combo of work, money and liability kills it consistently, and these companies are bleeding money for a reason. ok, we'll see I guess, only time will tell
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Maed posted:google search is almost unusable now with how wrong it always is and it uses the same sort of poo poo as chatgpt, it will never do anything because it has no intelligence behind it and will always give you wrong answers, it’s a magic trick for rubes why don't they just change it back to when it was good?
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