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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:Egregious late hit against old man Pavelski and Dumba only gets 2 minutes out of it. https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1648162727943196673 Refs went from no call to major to roughing on review, and it's not clear to me if the roughing was the hit or dropping the gloves when he's jumped by Domi. Domi dodges a lone fighting major, I suspect because they'd have to run Kirill as third man in if they called it. Given it wasn't initially called and was downgraded upon review, I'm going to be surprised if Dumba has a DoPS chat over it tomorrow but  tough to ever tell what Parros'll do. Hope Pavelski's just shaken up 
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:Egregious late hit against old man Pavelski and Dumba only gets 2 minutes out of it. Possession of the Puck: The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession. the rulebook gives a wide allowance for hits. no one else besides Pavelski had touched the puck, so he's still technically in possession. that would probably be a major in the regular season but this is the playoffs. can't admire the pass
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Apr 18, 2023 05:46
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The other day someone was questioning if they would rather face Seattle or Minny in the first round. I was going to post that you would much rather play Seattle, because Minnesota is low key the dirtiest team in the NHL and you'd rather somebody else deal with that poo poo than have Dumba knock Pavelski out for the playoffs with a knee to knee hit. I guess the lesson here is you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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Apr 18, 2023 06:22
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Possession of the Puck: The rule book doesn’t even manage to be consistent with its terminology here, implying that the proper time to check someone is immediately after the next player has touched the puck
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Apr 18, 2023 06:27
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Blindside hits, pavelski should stop admiring the pass with the back of his head
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Zoran posted:The rule book doesn’t even manage to be consistent with its terminology here, implying that the proper time to check someone is immediately after the next player has touched the puck that's the idea. it gives us all leeway to argue that all hits towards players we don't like are good, and all hits towards players we like are bad
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Apr 18, 2023 06:33
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Edmonton was up 3-1 with 10 mins left Lmao
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Apr 18, 2023 06:46
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Oof. Pavelski. He was my favorite Badger while at UW and has been one of my favorite NHLers since. I hope that isn't the end for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02EwkGqyto
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Apr 18, 2023 06:50
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All the evil teams won.
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Apr 18, 2023 07:01
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Some advice for Jamie Benn. 1. Shoot
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Apr 18, 2023 07:06
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So let's see Domi gets suspended for 10 games, Pavelski gets 20 for some reason, and Dumba is personally sucked off by the commissioner. Let's see how much of that I get right by tomorrow.
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Apr 18, 2023 07:08
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https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1648206359874109441 Faber, for being 8 days removed from the Frozen Four, had an unbelievable game. https://twitter.com/hayyyshayyy/status/1648203032486719488
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On the one hand, I feel extremely bad for Pavelski and don't want any cool dudes to get hurt. On the other hand, the recent futility of Minnesota sports would make Tantalus content with his lot and if all four Minnesota teams get into the playoffs this year and get bounced immediately then I'm going to go feral. Even the fuckin' Gophers couldn't win a thing. In conclusion, Go Wild. Shinjobi posted:So let's see This will also somehow lead to Byron Buxton getting injured again.
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Apr 18, 2023 08:04
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Dumba just made himself an extra $7M on his upcoming free agent contract
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Apr 18, 2023 11:01
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Edmonton was up 3-1 with 10 mins left Same as it ever was
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Possession of the Puck: I am now unclear on how icing exists, player still has possession!
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Of significance here is that the NHL rulebook draws a distinction between "possession" and "control of the puck." Possession as commonly used to by fans is really "control of the puck" in the rulebook. Possession: The last player to physically touch the puck with his stick or body shall be considered in possession of the puck. (NOTE 1) A player can have possession of the puck without control, but he cannot have control of the puck without possession.. Control of the puck: The act of propelling the puck with the stick, hand or feet. Control of the puck is not lost when contact with the puck is made by an opponent, the boards or the net, provided the player in control of the puck continues propelling the puck.
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Apr 18, 2023 12:30
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I'm angry about my team and being facetious. It's fine.
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Apr 18, 2023 12:34
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I for one cannot believe the Oilers lost on such a funny fashion because it sure seems like the creator hates me
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mennoknight posted:I for one cannot believe the Oilers lost on such a funny fashion because it sure seems like the creator hates me I have said nothing specifically because that was just game 1 and if there's one thing the universe loves to do around hockey is build up my expectations before crushing them in a hilariously (to an outside observer) soul destroying fashion. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Apr 18, 2023 |
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Apr 18, 2023 12:49
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I had forgotten what its like to have hope and excitement squeezed out of you in mere minutes.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:So Oilers sweep. Gotcha not quite
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ThinkTank posted:I have said nothing specifically because that was just game 1 and if there's one thing the universe loves to do around hockey is build up my expectations before crushing them in a hilariously (to an outside observer) soul destroying fashion. The teams we cheer for are dumpster fires, you have to find humour where you can in these troubling times
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Apr 18, 2023 14:07
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As long as the Oilers stop taking dumb gently caress penalties they SHOULD be fine but ugh
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Apr 18, 2023 14:39
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:As long as the Oilers stop taking dumb gently caress penalties they SHOULD be fine but ugh Yeah they looked fine. The Kings aren't going to shut McDavid out again and get six powerplays. Skinner looked pretty shaky too and I expect him to rebound. Nurse was at his defensive liability best though lol.
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Apr 18, 2023 14:56
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Was Faber just in because Klingberg is out?ThinkTank posted:Skinner looked pretty shaky too and I expect him to rebound. Nurse was at his defensive liability best though lol. Yeah I thought Skinner looked pretty nervous. Tentative reads and a lot of halfway decisions. Still don't think the Kings can survive no Fiala/Vilardi but man that was a big win for them.
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A few Wild/Stars notes: Russo appears to confirm that Dumba, even upon review, was not assessed with a penalty for the hit on Pavelski but instead for the aftermath with Domi: quote:After not calling Dumba with an initial penalty, the four officials conferenced and assessed Dumba with a major penalty likely because it would be subject to review. After watching the replay, the officials rescinded the major and assessed only a minor for his fracas with Domi, who was also given a 10-minute misconduct. Per Yousuf, Domi didn't even see the hit before he pulled Dumba out from the refs and went to town (this is somewhat of a habit for Domi this season) quote:Max Domi, who admitted he didn’t see the hit itself, pounced on Dumba as a reaction to seeing Pavelski laying on the ice in the manner in which he was. Dumba, for his part, is one of the many people who've apparently forgotten the distinction between (potentially) legal and clean: quote:“To be honest, I thought it was a clean hit,” Dumba said. “I figured they were going to see the same — shoulder on shoulder. I don’t even know why I got the roughing. It was probably just because I was in the box already.” It's unclear whether DeBoer is trying to mollify his team or he actually believes it, but: quote:“We have the best officials in the world,” DeBoer said. “They called a five, they reviewed it, which is the right thing to do. If they reviewed it and they decided it wasn’t a bad hit, then I guess it’s not for me to argue with that. They got to look at it at multiple different angles and that’s the decision they made.”  I can't hotlink his next videoclip but it's the second that follows this image: Brodin, next to Gus on the left of the picture above, has completely shifted body and attention from Pavelski to the puck... prior to Dumba initiating contact. The Wild dressing room, for its part, was focused on a few illegal shots with what appeared to be clear intent to injure by Suter: quote:Wild players were ripping the longtime former Wild defenseman to shreds in the celebratory postgame locker room. https://twitter.com/JeffVeillette/status/1648183350287388675 I'm a fan of the stripes on the first one clearly watching and determining that it was neither interference nor a crosscheck... just apparently a bad time for Kirill to blow a tire? Given Pionk's blatant attempt to injure Johansson with less than a minute left earlier this week that seemed to have the playoffs in mind, the Wild are a bit touchy about naked crosschecks to their skill guys and I suspect the refs will have a misconduct or 3 to dish out in the game 2 as both sides look to settle scores. It'll be interesting to see who has a chat with player safety out of this game. I could see anything from Dumba getting a game to Domi getting a fine (his Ekbald suspension for similar behavior was far enough in the past that he's got a clean slate). All of that to say, I hope the NHL fixes this poo poo ASAP and that it's not as bad as it immediately looked for either Kaprizov or Pavelski.
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There’s a compilation video on reddit of all the times Max Domi has dropped the gloves and started punching a guy in the head while the other player is being held by the refs or has no intention of fighting https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/com...nt=share_button Guys a huge piece of poo poo
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The Dirty Burger posted:There’s a compilation video on reddit of all the times Max Domi has dropped the gloves and started punching a guy in the head while the other player is being held by the refs or has no intention of fighting https://youtu.be/ziOS2q0lRn8
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T-Bone posted:Was Faber just in because Klingberg is out? Merrill gave the kid a chance to shine. Sort of... https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1648166946313994240 Wild brass have been high on the kid for ages, it's one of the reasons they targeted the Kings for Fiala instead of seeking a better pick. He also fits what Evanson prizes from his nonstars: smart, simple, reliable play. Along with Brodin and Spurgeon, it looks like they expect him to provide years of solid D work alongside competent offensive contributions- the question longterm is whether they pair him with Brodin aiming for an undersized shutdown pairing or take advantage of allowing Evanson to roll three trustworthy pairs. The Dirty Burger posted:There’s a compilation video on reddit of all the times Max Domi has dropped the gloves and started punching a guy in the head while the other player is being held by the refs or has no intention of fighting 
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T-Bone posted:Yeah I thought Skinner looked pretty nervous. Tentative reads and a lot of halfway decisions. I can't recall the last time I saw a looping backhander from the slot go in the net. Skinner was a bit in his own head after that. I'm sure he'll shake it off and be fine.
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Just gotta call those cross checks. The one away from the play is obnoxious, but it's the playoffs and dirty play will happen if it's let go. The one in front of the net is something you do every single time if the refs have swallowed their whistles. I imagine they'll tighten up game 2.
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I can hardly remember an example of refs calling a hit late because it came less than a second after the hit player moved the puck. Maybe in that phase when they cared about blatant interference of forecheckers going after dump-ins. But anyway there was definitely a high stick!
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If that hit is late, it's barely late. I time it by hand at just about on half-a-second, which is the rule of thumb they use for late, so I can see them deciding not to call it on that. Bigger problem is Pavelski was completely unprepared to take contact, which once upon a time definitely made it your fault if you got banged up. More recently there's supposed to be some responsibility on the hitter to temper contact on defenseless players, but I imagine that's one of the dials that gets turned down in the playoffs.
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Shinjobi posted:So let's see none of it, but good playoff posting, very entertaining mini-meltdown
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Misanthrope posted:none of it, but good playoff posting, very entertaining mini-meltdown Clearly unfamiliar with my posting, you've seen nothing yet
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ThinkTank posted:Yeah they looked fine. The Kings aren't going to shut McDavid out again and get six powerplays. Skinner looked pretty shaky too and I expect him to rebound. Nurse was at his defensive liability best though lol. Obviously McDavid is gonna get some points in that series, but I'm becoming increasingly convinced that Phil Danault has some sort of fairy magic or demonic pact that turns him into star kryptonite come playoff time.
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chooo chooo
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Shinjobi posted:Clearly unfamiliar with my posting, you've seen nothing yet I think your posting was in perfect playoff form last night. Now you just have to carry it through to the next game.
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