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selec posted:She needs to retire, but I suspect there may be some staffers who oppose that, and who else has access to her? Maybe we need to promise the staffers lifetime sinecures or something to get things rolling. Whoa there, buddy. Sounds like you're dangerously close to doing politics here. As the adults in the room, the Democrats are only allowed to tweet and send meekly worded emails. The public will punish them if they are indecorous, you see. Best to just not appoint any more judges for the next two years. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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PostNouveau posted:Whoa there, buddy. Sounds like you're dangerously close to doing politics here. As the adults in the room, the Democrats are only allowed to tweet and send meekly worded emails. The public will punish them if they are indecorous, you see. Best to just not appoint any more judges for the next two years. There have been a few Democrats who said she should resign. But, Manchin and basically every female Senator said she shouldn't and pointed out that male Senators have been out for years and nobody called for them to resign. Schumer says he spoke to her and she will be "returning soon" and isn't going to comment on whether she should resign, so he is basically on that side as well. Which is technically true and there is definitely some element of sexism in that nobody ever said that about male Senators, but they also should have resigned and "everybody else does it" isn't really a great reason to continue the trend.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:There have been a few Democrats who said she should resign. But, Manchin and basically every female Senator said she shouldn't and pointed out that male Senators have been out for years and nobody called for them to resign. Schumer says he spoke to her and she will be "returning soon" and isn't going to comment on whether she should resign, so he is basically on that side as well. There seems to be a disconnect where the Senate Dems (a lot of whom are like 80 themselves, especially the leadership) are looking at this like it's just a temporary health thing that she'll be back from, when the reality seems to be that she's precipitously declined and even if they drag her back, she shouldn't be there. Based on all the reports, she should be getting a lot of treatment and not working. It's like elder abuse at this point. This of course goes for any of the other ancient liches that run our country no matter their gender.
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PostNouveau posted:There seems to be a disconnect where the Senate Dems (a lot of whom are like 80 themselves, especially the leadership) are looking at this like it's just a temporary health thing that she'll be back from, when the reality seems to be that she's precipitously declined and even if they drag her back, she shouldn't be there. Based on all the reports, she should be getting a lot of treatment and not working. It's like elder abuse at this point. Agreed. The reporting coming out in 2018 when some Democrats were quietly trying to convince her to retire and not run for re-election basically said that she considered being forced out to basically be "losing" and tarnishing her legacy, so she was going to ride out her last term for the entire 6 years because she didn't want to "lose" by retiring after people told her too. It's very Senate-brained thinking. Although, it is not just the Senate. There are lots of people in prominent positions in politics, culture, and business who feel like heeding calls to retire or resign is basically admitting defeat and tarnishing their reputation regardless of circumstance. It is just even more frustrating when that person is holding up important public good by doing so in a way that the CEO of a company or head of a TV series refusing to leave is not.
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I think there's the general understanding that Feinstein is declining, she's no longer judiciary chair and is expected to retire at the end of the term. The issue is no one wants to set a precedent of forcing her out given many of them are also pushing retirement age. If they have their own health issues they'd like to be able to return to the Senate without being forced to resign.
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Unclear why, but Christie seems to want to give his Presidential campaign another shot. I can't really see this ending in any way other than disaster for him again. If Trump somehow flames out, then DeSantis is there to pick up the remains. Christie ran basically at the height of his popularity last time and got nowhere. I don't see him getting much more popular after being out of office for 8 years and trying the same thing again. Although, I guess I have to give him credit for being the one Republican who seemed prepared for the obvious follow-up question on abortion. His answer seems like it will piss off the more extreme pro-lifers, though. https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1648385852450414593 quote:Washington CNN — Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is talking to potential donors, thought leaders, staffers, and others to discuss a possible campaign for president in 2024, sources close to Christie told CNN.
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Seph posted:Please read the article you linked because it does not say what you think it says. On page 3: This isn't me purposely spreading misinformation, of course a lot of issues unrelated to the drivetrain because most EVs are packed with tech. My only point is that yes, in theory EVs should be more reliable. We have a nearly century of data for diesel trucks and we don't have data for battery electric trucks in the wild. EV motors don't last forever and will likely need to be replaced many times over the life of a truck, same with batteries. You can't do total cost of ownership without that data. Fornax Disaster posted:I’d like to add to this by pointing out that truck driving isn’t just a career for the uneducated. It also acts as a lifeboat for people who have been pushed out of other fields by globalization and technological change. I know a few truck drivers who started in middle age. One lost the family farm in a divorce, another had a big tomato greenhouse business that couldn’t compete with cheaper imports, another is a former graphic designer. Going after trucking is attacking these people in their last refuge. I didn't mean it's only for the uneducated, just that you don't need any special education to become a truck driver. It's a tough career but it's a job that you can actually support a family with maybe and save for retirement while not completely destroying your body. One of my dad's drivers was a refugee from central America who barely spoke english when he arrived went on to become an owner operator and that truck helped put his kid through college and eventually medical school. Going after truck drivers is literally the opposite of what the Democratic party should be doing.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:In a surprise to nobody, McConnell says they will oppose any effort to replace Feinstein on the Judiciary Committee because Democrats just want to do so to "ram through their radical judges." Is there anything he can do about that?
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is there anything he can do about that? Yes. They need unanimous consent on the committee or to break a filibuster in the overall Senate to remove her and then appoint someone else.
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Seems like you could cut out a lot of the middlemen here if you just allowed corporations to legally adopt children. Absolutely buckwild that the response from the reporting that unaccompanied minors / other kids shoved into the foster care system just keep mysteriously showing up working factory gigs is to just.... make kids working those jobs legal.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Unclear why, but Christie seems to want to give his Presidential campaign another shot. Money, he can campaign and has his "friends" can deposit millions into accounts he will control. Or we has a book planned, either way its always money.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Agreed. The reporting coming out in 2018 when some Democrats were quietly trying to convince her to retire and not run for re-election basically said that she considered being forced out to basically be "losing" and tarnishing her legacy, so she was going to ride out her last term for the entire 6 years because she didn't want to "lose" by retiring after people told her too. She also had the trail blazed for her by Robert Byrd and Strom Thurmond, who died in office at 92 and 100. Byrd at least had a good reason to cling onto the seat because the Democrats weren't going to win it once he retired.
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kronix posted:This isn't me purposely spreading misinformation, of course a lot of issues unrelated to the drivetrain because most EVs are packed with tech. My only point is that yes, in theory EVs should be more reliable. We have a nearly century of data for diesel trucks and we don't have data for battery electric trucks in the wild. EV motors don't last forever and will likely need to be replaced many times over the life of a truck, same with batteries. You can't do total cost of ownership without that data. It would be really nice if there wasn't a blue collar job that *didn't* destroy your body. Just standing on concrete all day fucks up your knees even with rubber mats. Worst so far I've gotten is some fly away strands of my hair stuck in a running glue roller, though the standing all day on concrete is more of a culmitive thing.
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kronix posted:This isn't me purposely spreading misinformation, of course a lot of issues unrelated to the drivetrain because most EVs are packed with tech. My only point is that yes, in theory EVs should be more reliable. We have a nearly century of data for diesel trucks and we don't have data for battery electric trucks in the wild. EV motors don't last forever and will likely need to be replaced many times over the life of a truck, same with batteries. You can't do total cost of ownership without that data. Full size EVs haven't been practical until recently, but we've had electric forklifts for literally a hundred years, undergoing intense daily workload. Electric buses and electric locomotives have a long history. Hybrid vehicles have been around for decades. Electric motors and drive trains are not some newfangled device with teething issues. Their problems are predictable and the engineering challenges are known. And noone is 'going after truck drivers.' TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 18, 2023 |
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HHS is partnering with vaccine manufacturers and allocating additional money to keep covid vaccines free for uninsured Americans. Pfizer and Moderna have agreed to offer the vaccines at no cost for the uninsured and the federal government will stop buying vaccines in bulk, but continue to purchase them for state, local, and tribal governments. https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1648394728189165568 quote:Biden Administration Will Fund Program to Keep Covid Vaccines Free for the Uninsured
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The Judge in the Fox v. Dominion trial has appointed a special master to review all of Fox's electronic communications after it was suspected that they were withholding evidence from the opposing attorneys. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1648402294965256196
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Unclear why, but Christie seems to want to give his Presidential campaign another shot. It makes sense on paper to run an attack dog against Trump, there are billionaires who would happily bankroll such a campaign even if it had no prospect of winning if it meant they could seize the party from Trump. The only problem is this was the exact same rationale as the Christie '16 campaign, and while he landed some clean hits on little Marco he was totally useless against Trump and their is zero reason to believe that has changed.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Unclear why, but Christie seems to want to give his Presidential campaign another shot. He's probably just doing it for the publicity bump. Get a piece of the news cycle for a few weeks while he gives them the ol' Will I Won't I? before making an announcement that after lots of prayer and talking it over with his family, now just isn't the time for him to make a presidential bid.
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the_steve posted:He's probably just doing it for the publicity bump. Get a piece of the news cycle for a few weeks while he gives them the ol' Will I Won't I? before making an announcement that after lots of prayer and talking it over with his family, now just isn't the time for him to make a presidential bid. Unless he has a book coming, then he'll use campaign donations to buy up a shitload of copies.
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Kind of interesting to see what policies Trump is focusing on in 2024. He has just released his fourth policy platform for his 2024 campaign. So far, he has released: - An immigration plan. - A plan for dealing with trans kids in school and sports. - A plan for dealing with CRT and racial indoctrination in public schools. - A plan for ending homelessness. Nothing on taxes, the economy, healthcare, or foreign policy yet. He has made some public comments about Ukraine, but has not put forth an actual official foreign policy platform. The other interesting thing is that all of those areas (except immigration) are areas where the federal government doesn't have a ton of power to actually implement those policies. Trump's plan is to make homelessness illegal and give the homeless a choice of jail, a mental institution, or rehab. It also includes new programs to help homeless veterans. quote:Trump vows to clean up homeless problem with tents, rehab, jail https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/apr/18/donald-trump-vows-clean-homeless-problem-tents-reh/
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Unclear why, but Christie seems to want to give his Presidential campaign another shot. To be fair, if something happens to Donny then the current field is all but certain to be massacred by Christie. Of all the people to jump in, he's the only one with some sort of actual shot at this thing, while also having by far the highest potential monetary grift for a loser. Everyone else is a no shot "they were in the race?" candidate in absolutely any cycle, even if there's no looming Trump. DeSantis is his own category, where he could possibly successfully run a race where there are no other bullies running. PostNouveau posted:She also had the trail blazed for her by Robert Byrd and Strom Thurmond, who died in office at 92 and 100. Byrd at least had a good reason to cling onto the seat because the Democrats weren't going to win it once he retired. Even aside from the depressingly large wheeled onto the floor in a confused state caucus, the Senate has a tradition of "nobly" rising from your deathbed for one last vote. Your Kennedy and McCain coming in hot from brain cancer types. So Feinstein is in a weird place where we seem to finally be recognizing that maybe an ailing gerontocracy might be a bad idea, but is weird that we're finally having this discussion when it's a lady. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:- A plan for dealing with CRT and racial indoctrination in public schools. Am I the only person who always has to take a minute to realize we're talking racism and not brain injury when they see the abbreviation CRT? Gyges fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Apr 18, 2023 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Unclear why, but Christie seems to want to give his Presidential campaign another shot. I honestly would love to see this, if he remembers how bad Trump made him look and decides to go full New Jersey on him. e: say what you will about Chris Christie but he knows how to wear a suit and stand normally
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Gyges posted:Am I the only person who always has to take a minute to realize we're talking racism and not brain injury when they see the abbreviation CRT? Not just you. Occasionally my mind thinks "TV" and not "racism" when I see "CRT".
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Which is technically true and there is definitely some element of sexism in that nobody ever said that about male Senators, but they also should have resigned and "everybody else does it" isn't really a great reason to continue the trend. Uh... nobody has ever said what about male senators, exactly? Because the calls for male senators to resign as soon as it might actually hurt the party for them to stay seem to be pretty much immediate, from what I recall of when situations have come up in the past? Traditionally the quickest way to get someone out of the Senate while letting them save face is to offer them a job in the administration - I wonder if Biden has considered that option? Seems worth sacrificing a pretty importing position if it means getting confirmations through. GlyphGryph fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Apr 18, 2023 |
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Professor Beetus posted:I honestly would love to see this, if he remembers how bad Trump made him look and decides to go full New Jersey on him. I think he's running for vice president again. No way Trump goes with Pence again, he's a liability now plus a traitor to Trump. Wasn't Christie one of Trumps choices in 2016 but got talked out of it?
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gurragadon posted:I think he's running for vice president again. No way Trump goes with Pence again, he's a liability now plus a traitor to Trump. Wasn't Christie one of Trumps choices in 2016 but got talked out of it? Yeah I think Big T's handlers actually blocked a meeting with Christie by keeping Trump's plane on the tarmac or something. They're both disgusting jabronis from the tri-state area, it could work
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GlyphGryph posted:Uh... nobody has ever said what about male senators, exactly? Because the calls for male senators to resign as soon as it might actually hurt the party for them to stay seem to be pretty much immediate, from what I recall of when situations have come up in the past? The most famous recent examples were Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Robert Byrd, Thad Cochran, and Strom Thurmond. I don't think any of them had their party publicly calling for their resignation and most of them died in office.
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Meatball posted:Unless he has a book coming, then he'll use campaign donations to buy up a shitload of copies. Who on God's Green Earth is going to donate to Christie for President lmao
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Fox has settled with Dominion. That is some grade A BS. I get why Fox would settle but drat I wanted them to lose this case.
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I hope Fox has legally agreed that Tucker Carlson should have to wear a novelty shirt at all times saying "I AM A BIG LIAR AND I SMELL LIKE FARTS". at the very least the next election will be funny with fox hosts saying things like "This election is very dubious! But not because of the voting machines, which are incredibly reliable and trustworthy." while glancing just offscreen at the lawyer
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The most famous recent examples were Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Robert Byrd, Thad Cochran, and Strom Thurmond. Yeah, up until now the only way to actually get pressure to resign was for being caught doing major crimes, being caught being gay, or the brief window that caught Frankin for harassment. Simple cognitive decline was almost a badge of honor in the Senate.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:at the very least the next election will be funny with fox hosts saying things like "This election is very dubious! But not because of the voting machines, which are incredibly reliable and trustworthy." while glancing just offscreen at the lawyer Yeah, that's my main takeaway from this. If Trump is the candidate in 2024 and loses, does he run the same playbook? Does the RWM play along this time? And does Dominion sue again, and go to court this time?
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