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orange juche posted:Everest is Darwin's perfect challenge, competent mountaineers generally survive it, while a lot of people who have no business near mountains but are climbing for bragging rights get turned into ice sculptures in the death zone.
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Surely there's somewhat harder times that avoid the tourist rush while not being levels of climbing in winter suicidal.
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Apr 18, 2023 19:23
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i think that yall are forgetting that, even with the lame bits and lines and all that, being able to say "i have climbed the tallest mountain in the world" would be pretty fuckin cool
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Apr 18, 2023 20:54
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Achmed Jones posted:i think that yall are forgetting that, even with the lame bits and lines and all that, being able to say "i have climbed the tallest mountain in the world" would be pretty fuckin cool yeah that sounds pretty cool tbh
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Apr 18, 2023 20:58
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it seems easy to do though, which detracts from the lustre
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yeah i can already say i climbed the tallest mountain the world. what are you gonna do? stop me?
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Achmed Jones posted:i think that yall are forgetting that, even with the lame bits and lines and all that, being able to say "i have climbed the tallest mountain in the world" would be pretty fuckin cool Nah. Saying "I climbed K2"? All the respect in the world. "I climbed Everest"? Introduce me to your Sherpa, I bet he has some interesting stories to tell.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Nah. Saying "I climbed K2"? All the respect in the world. "I climbed Everest"? Introduce me to your Sherpa, I bet he has some interesting stories to tell. never heard of k2
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Apr 18, 2023 21:18
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This guy has kind of a Captain Ahab look to him, which is fitting.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Nah. Saying "I climbed K2"? All the respect in the world. "I climbed Everest"? Introduce me to your Sherpa, I bet he has some interesting stories to tell. wow you're so tough and cool, very impressive, this response could not at all have been predicted
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Apr 18, 2023 21:31
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The guy that died climbed Everest 10 times. I don’t get the point of doing it after the first unless you’re a Sherpa. Like, go climb another mountain dude, there’s lots of them, and Everest is just the worst.
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Apr 18, 2023 21:40
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latinotwink1997 posted:The guy that died climbed Everest 10 times. I don’t get the point of doing it after the first unless you’re a Sherpa. Like, go climb another mountain dude, there’s lots of them, and Everest is just the worst. Maybe addicted to that Base Camp sex party.
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Whatever happened on Annapurna is going to be one wild story if we get the details, something went very awry there.
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latinotwink1997 posted:The guy that died climbed Everest 10 times. I don’t get the point of doing it after the first unless you’re a Sherpa. Like, go climb another mountain dude, there’s lots of them, and Everest is just the worst. He might have been a guide for tourists. I assume most of these guys spending their whole lives in the Himalayas are doing that.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Some good news from Annapurna, they found the missing Indian climber alive. https://explorersweb.com/breaking-anurag-maloo-found-alive-on-annapurna/
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Mynameismud posted:Some good news from Annapurna, they found the missing Indian climber alive. holy poo poo that owns
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Achmed Jones posted:holy poo poo that owns I’d hold off on celebrating until you see how many extremities he gets to keep.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:never heard of k2 K2, Brute?
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Has this dude been posted here before? I can't figure out if he is the 9/11 truther of the mallory/irving summit controversy or maybe has some fair points https://www.youtube.com/@michaeltracy2356 at the very least it's entertaining to hear his take on the north routes and launch into tirades against the much more famous conrad anker and ongoing national geographic search expeditions. He seems to think they intentionally misled people about mallory/irving's route for ??? reasons. Apparently to fit a narrative national geographic wants to sell. I think the bulk of his theory is that mallory's notes among other things suggest he was on a different, slightly lower route which bypasses the '2nd step'. That is the most technical part of the modern north route, which has a had permanent ladder on it since the 60/70s and would have been very hard to believe they would attempt it. So this alternate route maybe fits the timeline a bit better with them having died descending. honestly you would need a excel sheet to keep up with all of these dudes theories Also youtuber did the north route himself a decade ago and seems somewhat knowledgeable about mountaineering and the history. yeah but him going on and on about the 1999 team desecrating mallory's body and destroying chances of finding summit rocks doesn't really hold water to me. Although I think he is right that national geographic should release the drone footage from their more recent 2019 expedition. Which if you watch the documentaries seems to have been otherwise a giant waste of time and somewhat illegally conducted. 2019 natl geo: Apparently they requested and were denied the extra time to search the mountain, so they agreed just to summit on the ordinary time frame of something like 12 hours. Obviously that was not the point of why this celebrity climb team is on the north route. So they didn't tell their sherpas what they were planning to do, just to keep up the charade of summiting only. So they spend all their energy and resources summiting, while being pelted by storms, then while decsending one team member unclips from the rope and leaves the route to search for irving, which obviously made the sherpas go ballistic watching this dude go off rope and off trail. Probably thinking all the western climbers have gone totally hypoxic or something. so in the end they spent about 20 total minutes searching on a search expedition. lol
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I just got back to the states from my EBC trek. I'll spare you the fawning about how amazing it was and skip straight to the goon-relevant highlights: I went with a group of 10 people, I left after getting to base camp while 5 ultimately are attempting to take the summit. One person in the group has a wikipedia page for being "the first <nationality> <gender> to <mountaineering feat a> and <mountaineering feat b>". I kid you not. All of the people attempting the summit were doing so for the first time and are mountaineers in their own rights with lists of accomplishments and not Canadian housewives with photoshop. I wish them the best of luck. The hike itself is grueling. If you're roughly goon-shaped you're going to have a bad time. I genuinely wanted to quit on multiple occasions. I met a Harvard researcher who was trying to get a good medical baseline for altitude sickness responses in people because apparently science doesn't have one of these yet. He also did an interesting talk on altitude sickness and general Himalayan health stuff including:
I also learned about a wonderful charity that operates two clinics within the region on a full-time basis and an ER in base camp during peak season called the "Himalayan Rescue Association". They provide services to trekkers/climbers and use the money to pay for services to native Nepalese porters and guides with an absolute bare minimum of cost. If a porter needs rest and some medication, or if they need an emergency evacuation to Kathmandu via helicopter for emergency treatment, it's only 50 rupees (approx 38 cents USD) for them, no matter what's required. If you're feeling charitable, I highly recommend looking at this organization because they help as much as possible to take care of the population most heavily negatively impacted by the trade in ego-tourism. If you post your donation in here, I'll pledge to match the first $500 personally. https://www.himalayanrescue.org/ I'm more than happy to expand on anything or answer questions about the trip anyone may have. It's honestly an amazing time and I really suggest that anyone who can do it should. <edit>Oh, and yak is tasty</edit> One final note, I did actually register the domain lhotse.cx, and I'll have all the pictures and notes from my journaling up on it as soon as I can get around to compiling it. Paladine_PSoT fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Apr 26, 2023 |
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Paladine_PSoT posted:<edit>Oh, and yak is tasty</edit> Sounds more like justified self-defense than murder to me. 
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This channel led to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9oI3B6v4c Finally! I have been wanting to see footage of the summit from above showing both major approaches. The idea that the two very distinctive routes meet at the summit and rarely do the two interact (unless your name is Messner), has fascinated me, and this is the clearest footage of both in the same shot. edit  Tibet approach on the left (with the third step and the Citadel), Nepal approach (with the Hillary step and South Summit) on the right. And Makalu slaying it in the background. Nice Tuckpointing! fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Apr 26, 2023 |
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Comrade Koba posted:Sounds more like justified self-defense than murder to me. Who's doing the self-defense in this situation? It could be either really...
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latinotwink1997 posted:I felt great hiking […]but then made the mistake of racing my friend the last 100 feet to the top (the lion statues) and instantly gave myself altitude sickness. Paladine_PSoT posted:
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ethanol posted:Has this dude been posted here before? I can't figure out if he is the 9/11 truther of the mallory/irving summit controversy or maybe has some fair points I think that Tracy is right on a lot of the facts. His narratives are more questionable. He’s got to be insufferable for everyone he works with, or tries to work with. Like, in the Green Boots video he uses the comparison of Semmelweis. And yeah Semmelweis was right in his thesis that doctors should wash their hands, but the reason that they didn’t listen to him lies Semmelweis’ flaws as in their own. Tracy gets the story of Semmelweis wrong, and in doing so reveals some of Semmelweis’ character flaws in himself. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Apr 28, 2023 |
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Platystemon posted:I think that Tracy is right on a lot of the facts. His narratives are more questionable. Yeah he's really over accusatory. I think after listening to other climbers on the subject, much from Thom Pollard's youtube interviews of a lot of search expedition members, that everybody seems pretty honest and open about it (including that it's all theoretical) while tracy sounds too unhinged. I definitely agree with pollard that they probably would have found summit rocks if they were there. They found things as little as half pencils in his pockets, rocks would have been obvious. I do think Mark Synott's maybe a little too convinced about the chinese having the camera story, I think a rumour like that probably would have more behind it than some pretty unreliable sources. But still even Mark is like 'yeah could easily be wrong' Also with regard to Tracy's alternate route, when I look at that zig zag route myself it looks hard as gently caress, borderline suicidal. I'm not convinced at all they would be able to climb that without multiple scout days. And I'd be pretty confident in assuming Natl Geo's drone footage, yes it would be nice to see them release it, but they've very likely peeled through it many many times themselves looking for stuff on the surface and there's nothing to see. ethanol fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Apr 28, 2023 |
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Weird History posted a new video, "what it's actually like to climb Mount Everest." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5_UUjzxkIw
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E: ^^^ I like the suggestion that you have to cross the Khumbu at night so you can summit in the day time lol  Is there any good continuous drone footage of either of the major routes? Preferably commentated but not necessarily. Am surprised I haven't seen such a thing, but seems like it'd be cool. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Apr 30, 2023 |
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Facebook reminding me that it was 10 years ago today that I flew by Everest in an Air India 737 and snapped one of the best photos I've ever taken.
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drat. Nice.
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Facebook reminding me that it was 10 years ago today that I flew by Everest in an Air India 737 and snapped one of the best photos I've ever taken. How many sherpas died flying that plane while you just sat there taking all the glory! (but yeah what a brilliant shot!)
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Achmed Jones posted:i think that yall are forgetting that, even with the lame bits and lines and all that, being able to say "i have climbed the tallest mountain in the world" would be pretty fuckin cool On the other hand, not being able to say anything because your tongue and lower jaw got frostbite and fell off, or because your dead fool body is still on the mountain, would not be cool, at least not in the same sense.
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Facebook reminding me that it was 10 years ago today that I flew by Everest in an Air India 737 and snapped one of the best photos I've ever taken. Daaaamn what a beautiful photo. You should submit that to some competition or other.
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Facebook reminding me that it was 10 years ago today that I flew by Everest in an Air India 737 and snapped one of the best photos I've ever taken. if you think about it, all of us who have been on a plane have flown at higher altitudes than Everest 
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Well I just watched that PBS Frontline 'Storm over Everest' documentary and I'm sad and furious all over again. What a loving waste. What a loving *shame*. I feel like folk who've only heard about this thread think that it's full of bloodlust, that posters here actively hope people will die. And they don't realise maybe that it all comes from this howl of fury and distress that this *keeps happening*. And for what? For nothing. Argh.
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Seattle climber dies at camp2 after suddenly feeling unwell. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/02/asia/us-climber-death-everest-intl/index.html
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Paladine_PSoT posted:Seattle climber gets the jab, dies at camp2 after suddenly feeling unwell. Many such cases
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HopperUK posted:Daaaamn what a beautiful photo. You should submit that to some competition or other. Exhibit A more like
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Facebook reminding me that it was 10 years ago today that I flew by Everest in an Air India 737 and snapped one of the best photos I've ever taken. gently caress. You.  Absolutely Glorious.
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