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mcmagic posted:The Devils dominated those regular season games vs the Rangers this year. They were CLEARLY the better team in those games. Going from that to whatever has been going on the last 2 games is pretty pathetic. They couldn't just get away from what they won 52 games doing. They don't even look like an over 500 team in these games. It happens a lot to young teams in the playoffs. You'd hope that a veteran coach would be there to help counteract it instead of playing into their worst possible tendencies but here we are. It's unfortunate game 1 went how it did because they weren't that bad outside of goaltending and special teams, and they panic reacted to it in game 2 in the dumbest way. The Rangers were also excellent in game two, there's no avoiding that. Probably the best I've seen them look all season, particularly in the 2nd.
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corn on the cop posted:embarrassed to be alive today They have to at least win a few games. Can't go out like this after 112 points. At least show a loving pulse.
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T-Bone posted:It happens a lot to young teams in the playoffs. You'd hope that a veteran coach would be there to help counteract it instead of playing into their worst possible tendencies but here we are. It's unfortunate game 1 went how it did because they weren't that bad outside of goaltending and special teams, and they panic reacted to it in game 2 in the dumbest way. So what you're saying is the Devils didn't want it enough.
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Apr 21, 2023 15:31
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I usually hate his holy mackinawwwwing but Joe Bowen owns for coining Johnny Toronto. Regional broadcasts are so much better than the sportsnet crew 
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Apr 21, 2023 15:38
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I think once the Rangers clinched they took their foot off the gas. They made a pretty deep long run last season with a lot of ups and downs. It's funny because going into the playoffs a lot of us were pretty nervous especially with how well the Devils played down the stretch. I don't think ive ever seen them flip a switch like this. Even in 94 they won the presidents trophy so there wasn't a switch to flip. Then they crushed the Islanders 6-0 in both of the first games and didn't really hit any problems until the Devils in the ECF. It would be funny if both teams lose all their home games and the lower seed advances. I'm not gloating, even up 2-0 im still worried the Devils are going to charge back and tie this up. I also apparently owe Gallant an apology, he's played this perfectly strategy wise. The team defense they're playing to neutralize the Devils rush is ridiculous.
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Apr 21, 2023 15:39
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mcmagic posted:They have to at least win a few games. Can't go out like this after 112 points. At least show a loving pulse. It’s pretty usual for young teams to get killed the first time they make the playoffs. Check out how the 07 Penguins did.
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Apr 21, 2023 15:42
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Can you fire and replace a coach mid series? Asking for the Devils. Ruff has been out classed by Galant. Making the line up even worse from game 1 to 2 is also impressive. Edit: ^^^ and who was that Penguins coach and how did things go for him after that?
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Apr 21, 2023 15:47
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The Dirty Burger posted:Regional broadcasts are so much better than the sportsnet crew Singh has spent the last five years trying to go viral like his BONINOBONINOBONINO call at every opportunity and it's quite annoying.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Can you fire and replace a coach mid series? Asking for the Devils. Ruff has been out classed by Galant. Making the line up even worse from game 1 to 2 is also impressive. I never thought Ruff was a good coach but firing a coach off 112 points is something. There is no reason to enter this team's real window in the next few years with a lovely coach though.
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Hand Knit posted:It’s pretty usual for young teams to get killed the first time they make the playoffs. Check out how the 07 Penguins did. Bruce Boudreau and the Young Guns Caps back then too.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Playoff hockey owns even though I don't understand any of the strategy or know any of the players or even have a basic comprehension of hockey rules!!!! Love seeing NFL draftniks and other SAS posters show up for some playoff hockey.
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Hey, after a while snorting cocaine and riding motorcycles out of helicopters loses a tiny bit of its thrill.
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mcmagic posted:I never thought Ruff was a good coach but firing a coach off 112 points is something. There is no reason to enter this team's real window in the next few years with a lovely coach though. But the fans already said sorry to Lindy
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If there were ever a GM to fire a coach mid-playoffs he lives in Long Island. https://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/24/sports/hockey-first-place-devils-fire-their-coach.html https://www.nhl.com/news/julien-fired-as-devils-coach-lamoriello-takes-over/c-298535
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Apr 21, 2023 16:04
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The Devils need their Therrien to Bylsma moment. No time like the present. Bring back Disco Dan!
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ThinkTank posted:But the fans already said sorry to Lindy I'm gonna feel pretty bad for him if they fire him.
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ThinkTank posted:Singh has spent the last five years trying to go viral like his BONINOBONINOBONINO call at every opportunity and it's quite annoying. Singh is a hall of farmer compared to Jack Michaels.
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Apr 21, 2023 16:16
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It's his last year so technically it just wouldn't be a renewal. Which is also how Brunette lost his job (granted, as an interim), and he's the most likely guy to replace Lindy!
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mcmagic posted:I'm gonna feel pretty bad for him if they fire him. Don't worry Andrew Brunette proved himself a fantastic playoff coach last season!!
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Don't worry Andrew Brunette proved himself a fantastic playoff coach last season!! And a less than stellar golf cart driver https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1648419659459248129?s=20
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ThinkTank posted:And a less than stellar golf cart driver They shouldn't be able to give you a DUI if it's a loving golf cart. Pig bastard should've left him alone.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:The Devils need their Therrien to Bylsma moment. No time like the present. Bring back Disco Dan! Gotta lose the Finals first
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mcmagic posted:They shouldn't be able to give you a DUI if it's a loving golf cart. Pig bastard should've left him alone. My father was killed by a drunk golf cart driver.
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mcmagic posted:They shouldn't be able to give you a DUI if it's a loving golf cart. Pig bastard should've left him alone. I mostly love that video for "I coached the Florida Panthers... You don't care."
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Calling to fire Ruff seems a little absurd to me considering their unbelievable turnaround this year. It's 2-0, it's been embarrassing so far, but teams wake up and turn momentum in playoff series a lot. If the Devils right the ship and win Game 3 they could easily turn the tide and come back to tie the series going back to New Jersey. It's not over yet.
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Aphrodite posted:My father was killed by a drunk golf cart driver. over how long a period?
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Misanthrope posted:over how long a period? the back nine
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Any loser coach can drag a good roster to a quality regular season. Just look at Sheldon Keefe for example.
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Cartoon Man posted:Kept waiting Toronto to blow it and let the Lightning comeback and they let me down. This is how the Leafs really break their fans hearts on their way to a hilarious game 7 collapse
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Any loser coach can drag a good roster to a quality regular season. Just look at Sheldon Keefe for example. He's generally made good decisions this year, tbh. Other than his love affair with Miles Wood and giving Blackwood too long of a leash, I don't really see any problems with the personnel he's been using and the way he's been managing his players, but that's just me.
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today I am fondly remembering Lou firing Robbie Ftorek with nine games left in 2000 and the team in first place
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T-Bone posted:If there were ever a GM to fire a coach mid-playoffs he lives in Long Island. it's time... let's bring him back
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mcmagic posted:They shouldn't be able to give you a DUI if it's a loving golf cart. Pig bastard should've left him alone.
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The Dirty Burger posted:I usually hate his holy mackinawwwwing but Joe Bowen owns for coining Johnny Toronto. Sportsnet crew are usually garbage yea.. at least for leafs games. They’re always trying to push a big (usually annoying) narrative instead of just calling the game. I wish the tsn crew had more games and playoff hockey, I much prefer their style.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Yeah he’s got a couple of pretty good books too. Sometimes he (and a lot of analysts) overthink hockey. Most teams play the same type of thing now. Reading Han, Bourne, and now Charron talk about tactics and breaking down plays gives me a great appreciation for the sheer amount of detail and data these guys process, and also how much that leads to them getting completely stuck up their own asses. You can definitely see shades of it in how Keefe coaches too (they’ve all been on his staff), when he gets to the playoffs he’s always making lineup tweaks and tactical changes like he’s playing rock/paper/scissors with the other coach, and the Leafs can end up looking slow and programmatic because they’re trying to execute what they did in practice instead of responding to what the other team is giving them. And I think teams definitely have variations in their play style but there’s a ton of overlap in what they’re trying to accomplish with those tactics. Like no matter where the first forward back falls back to in transition on defence you’re trying to force the other team to give up controlled possession, but red line pressure vs. blueline pressure changes a lot about puck retrieval and counter attacking, for example.
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Yeah, I think belief in a system and execution is almost always more important than the actual system.
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T-Bone posted:Yeah, I think belief in a system and execution is almost always more important than the actual system. Winning the cup is 98% confidence and 2% vibes.
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ThinkTank posted:Winning the cup is 98% confidence and 2% vibes. unironically talent and vibes
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T-Bone posted:unironically talent and vibes It's not really even talent. The more talented team loses all the time if the less talented team is made to genuinely believe NO ONE BELIEVED IN US WE CAME HERE TO PROVE THEM WRONG
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