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Hand Knit posted:There’s two kinds of rules in the nhl, fair play rules and safety rules. I’ve always thought of high sticking as a safety rule, so it makes sense that intent doesn’t matter. Puck-over-glass (Delay of Game) represents a third category: Don't Waste Time rules, which to be fair every sport needs.
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Was Darnell Nurse ever good? Trying to figure out how he’s got that kind of contract but contributes on the level of a Luca Sbisa
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Escape Goat posted:Was Darnell Nurse ever good? He got that contract because he is Connor McDavid's best friend.
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Apr 22, 2023 17:29
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Eric the Mauve posted:Puck-over-glass (Delay of Game) represents a third category: Don't Waste Time rules, which to be fair every sport needs. I think of it as a fair play rule because it's supposed to capture players creating play stoppages against the way the game is supposed to work.
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Apr 22, 2023 17:38
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Yeah “delay of game” is the name but isn’t actually why puck over glass is punished, it was something defenders used to do to effectively ice the puck but be allowed to change when they were getting hemmed
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Apr 22, 2023 17:42
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Eric the Mauve posted:Puck-over-glass (Delay of Game) represents a third category: Don't Waste Time rules, which to be fair every sport needs. what is icing then
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:what is icing then You put it on cake, or if you’re feeling fancy, the nipples of consenting partners
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eXXon posted:Does 2-3 wins in a row qualify as a nice run? Asking for a friend. about to earn some serious respect
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Apr 22, 2023 17:54
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there's also the kind of rule that screws the Oilers which is by definition a good and just and fair rule
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Apr 22, 2023 18:01
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mennoknight posted:there's also the kind of rule that screws the Oilers which is by definition a good and just and fair rule I still haven't seen an angle which shows the puck hitting the stick, just that it was in front of the stick while it was in the air. Which must not exist or the NHL would have seen it in the 6 minutes it took them staring at screens to not find.
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Apr 22, 2023 18:09
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https://old.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/12uwkv4/zoomed_focused_slowed_video_of_the_puck_rotation/ You can see the puck tap the stick and push it up a little. The puck's rotation also changes. It was the most gentle of taps. It reminds me of this joke from the Simpsons movie. Mr. Kite fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1649807449195438080?s=46&t=HQKtcRjDK4S81BLV4tbVnw Will Keefe finally calm down and trust that he has the better team, or will he get sucked into lineup tinkering and hard matchups that ruin the flow and consistency of his lines like he always does? Find out tonight!
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Mr. Kite posted:https://old.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/12uwkv4/zoomed_focused_slowed_video_of_the_puck_rotation/ Ya it seemed pretty clear it touched last night but also pretty clear that they were not going to change the call because it was like 95% clear it touched not 100%.
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Apr 22, 2023 18:27
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https://twitter.com/br_openice/status/1649589434566987776?s=46&t=lHimM6yryXEjSbBJQkXOHg Nothing quite like the NHL playoffs
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Koopa Kid posted:Yeah “delay of game” is the name but isn’t actually why puck over glass is punished, it was something defenders used to do to effectively ice the puck but be allowed to change when they were getting hemmed wasnt the no change on icing and the delay of game penalty both added in 06?
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Devils stuff: -- All signs point to Schmid starting tonight -- Siegenthaler back in, yay -- Smith still in, Bahl out, noooo -- Wood rotating on the 4th line with multiple other options, hopefully meaning he ain't in tonight -- McLeod bumped to 3rd line with Meier and Mercer. I'm fine with that, he wins a ton of face-offs and that line with possession could do damage -- I would imagine the 4th will be Bastian, Boqvist, and one of Lazar or Sharangovich
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Escape Goat posted:Was Darnell Nurse ever good? Not really, no Escape Goat posted:Trying to figure out how he’s got that kind of contract but contributes on the level of a Luca Sbisa Nurse has a really good agent and is friends with McDavid
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Ya it seemed pretty clear it touched last night but also pretty clear that they were not going to change the call because it was like 95% clear it touched not 100%. It took someone blowing it up from an exact angle and then slowing it down to see it. All the angles they showed on the TNT broadcast didn't show anything conclusive. Zooming like that is not something they do in the review process though? I don't honestly know. It does look like it touched the high stick and a Kings player was the next one to have possession and control. I think the worst part is it didn't seem to change the direction of the puck making it even harder to see without the video manipulation.
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jsoh posted:wasnt the no change on icing and the delay of game penalty both added in 06? That sounds familiar, but even if we bracket the "allowed to change" bit it was still thought to be a thing that defenceman were putting the puck out of play intentionally (with plausible deniability) when they couldn't otherwise get the puck out.
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fawning deference posted:Devils stuff: I’m sure all 4 lines rolled really well during the regular season but why the hell is Timo Meier on the 3rd line
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Jhet posted:It took someone blowing it up from an exact angle and then slowing it down to see it. All the angles they showed on the TNT broadcast didn't show anything conclusive. Zooming like that is not something they do in the review process though? I don't honestly know. It does look like it touched the high stick and a Kings player was the next one to have possession and control. I think the worst part is it didn't seem to change the direction of the puck making it even harder to see without the video manipulation. I said it in the GDT, but the refs are making decisions based on video they see on tablets at the timekeeper's bench. They can see slowed camera angles, but zooming in and/or getting single frame grabs isn't happening.
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grack posted:I said it in the GDT, but the refs are making decisions based on video they see on tablets at the timekeeper's bench. They can see slowed camera angles, but zooming in and/or getting single frame grabs isn't happening. Yeah, someone in the situation room would have to do all the manipulation for them. I just thought they got slow motion replays a little but everything is mostly at full speed.
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The Dirty Burger posted:I’m sure all 4 lines rolled really well during the regular season but why the hell is Timo Meier on the 3rd line Actually it looks like the 4th is gonna be Wood-Lazar-Bastian. Why is Wood still in. Meier on the third line is fine, they're just trying to spread the offense around and get a good matchip. With Nico/Bratt on one line, Jack on another, and Meier/Mercer on another, you're trying to catch weak competition for one of them.
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Shooting the puck into the stands creates a danger for the spectators, icing it does not. Hence why one is a penalty and the other only a stoppage.
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jsoh posted:wasnt the no change on icing and the delay of game penalty both added in 06? Yeah I got mixed up, like Hand Knit said it wasn’t about the change but about relieving pressure and stopping play when hemmed, similar but different. Also has the benefit of discouraging players from sending pucks into the stands for obvious safety reasons.
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Simplex posted:Shooting the puck into the stands creates a danger for the spectators, icing it does not. Hence why one is a penalty and the other only a stoppage. That's absolutely not why they changed the rule, it was put in place to promote offense (there's a reason it's only a penalty in the defensive zone). NHL teams putting up netting after Derek Morris deflected a Espen Knutsen shot that killed a girl was the safety thing.
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Simplex posted:Shooting the puck into the stands creates a danger for the spectators, icing it does not. Hence why one is a penalty and the other only a stoppage. That argument would have made more sense when there was no netting above the glass. Also by that logic shooting the puck over the glass in the neutral zone and missing the netting should be penalized more heavily.
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And once you cross the red line it's just dumping the puck and not icing. There's very little reason for players to intentionally put the puck out of play when they aren't in the defensive zone, so there's basically no reason to legislate it out of existence. Them putting the netting in the first place was a huge compromise. They had to do something after that incident, but there was a lot of push back about restricted views.
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Somewhat surprising, the Wild have parted company with Tim Army from the Iowa Wild. https://twitter.com/RussoHockey/status/1649869759264051200 It'll be interesting to see what route Billy goes, there should be considerable interest in working with this prospect pool.
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I can't believe I'm now so old that I'm posting with people who don't remember when defensemen would "accidentally" shoot the puck over the glass 30 times a game and it definitely was not to give themselves a bit of a breather no siree
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HookShot posted:I can't believe I'm now so old that I'm posting with people who don't remember when defensemen would "accidentally" shoot the puck over the glass 30 times a game and it definitely was not to give themselves a bit of a breather no siree Probably 80% of NHL players are younger than you. You are now ancient.
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Paracaidas posted:Somewhat surprising, the Wild have parted company with Tim Army from the Iowa Wild. That’s a little surprising, but only a little. Development is a little stagnant this year I think and with the talent in Iowa right now they really need to get it right. Could have quite a few guys making a move up in the next two years and from the little I got to watch of Iowa this year they just weren’t consistently playing well.
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Duckman2008 posted:Probably 80% of NHL players are younger than you. You are now ancient. 
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It's ok you'll get your shot. Lou Lam is still employed.
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Duckman2008 posted:Probably 80% of NHL players are younger than you. You are now ancient. Now that Craig Anderson has retired it's 100% for me. Don't like it!!!
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fawning deference posted:Yup. I know we are emotionally invested but it's odd to see such finality in the doom and gloom of SAS considering we all have experienced many playoff seasons. The fact remains that it's not a particularly uncommon thing for teams to go down in a series and then roar back. You win the netx game, flip the momentum, and go on a nice run. Unfortunately the Rangers aren't running a third string goalie. Timo should run Igor a few times and get the backup in there. But yeah comebacks are quite possible. Devils looked like poo poo in game 2 though. Need to get to their game. I thought they played alright in game 1 and just couldn't score, but in game 2 they had some real bad habits. As for the Oilers, they're carrying the play but they're not putting LA away in these games. Letting them hang around a bit. They need to turn their superior 5v5 play into bigger leads
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Duckman2008 posted:Probably 80% of NHL players are younger than you. You are now ancient. There are 103 active players left who were born in the 80s.
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https://twitter.com/wpgmurat/status/1649930655646781441?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q Oof that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin
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