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A dealership knocked $800 off a '22 XSR700 and if they weren't going to add on an extra few grand in dealer fees I'd be willing to trade up to one. That bike speaks to every hipster sensibility that still lives inside me.
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:The insurance is probably decent because of the statistical caliber of a person buying a Harley. They probably aren't going to go crash it immediately. 
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:I might get some hate for this...but you said big...fast...bags...more classic style....lots of miles...is a Harley out of the question? The insurance is probably decent because of the statistical caliber of a person buying a Harley. They probably aren't going to go crash it immediately. Harley just charges a lot for what they offer, as far as I can see, and I don't really want a cruiser at all. I don't really want big, or even super fast (I'm not looking at litrebike sports tourers for the most part), I just want big *enough*. The SV650 (or my ninja) for example, is just a little too small to be comfortable for more than an hour for me. My hips cramp up and my knees get sore, and my lower back aches, mostly because of where the footpegs rest in relation to the seat. Rearsets make it far worse, but goddamn do I love riding a 600 even if I look very silly doing it. When I'm riding NC 226a or Tail of the Dragon, I forget all that and just bomb those corners. It's the three hour ride getting there and three hour ride back that's a pain in the rear end. As for insurance, it's super weird. I have 0 accidents ever and 0 tickets in over a decade, and I've had my endorsement for 6 years AND I took a riding class a year ago. Why is a Katana, a 150hp upright literbike $800/yr from Progressive, same as an MT09, MT10, Ninja 650 (Wtf), and all these listed ADV bikes... but a Ninja 1000SX is $1800, same as if I wanted to buy a loving Hayabusa???  People must be crashing Dad-Literbikes left and right. Slavvy posted:Both the 900 bikes have insanely snatchy throttles and are generally really frantic feeling, lots of miles is not something I would want to do on one The low end torque from that triple and the gearing probably doesn't help that. I'm headed to two dealerships next week (a big 4 Japanese store, and a triumph/bmw/ducati store), we'll see if some wily salesman can wrangle cash out of me.
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Remember: if you buy a bmw baby jesus cries another tear
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I was considering one of their 300 bikes for a hot second. I keep thinking about how much maintenance my dad has to do to his X3 all the time. I don't think he'd be owning one at all if he didn't have two close relatives nearby who are BMW factory techs with their own tools and pirated dealer software to help him out TotalLossBrain fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Apr 21, 2023 |
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I had an old xs400 for riding around and then it got stolen (again, only this time it's gone for good instead of gone for a joy ride and then dumped in a park where I have to pay $400 to get it back because the park service had it towed). Anyway, what bike should I get? I'll ride it once or twice a week in NYC and then probably go on a couple of longer rides from time to time but for better or worse any time I have a lot of time to go riding I'm going to drive the van out to trails and ride a dirt bike. Things to consider: Anything with knobby tires will be immediately stolen so no sumos. It's more fun to ride a slow bike fast but acceleration is fun. Can't be too wide for lane splitting. It's going to get knocked over so too nice is probably a bad thing. I was thinking of the following bikes but I'm sure I'm missing something. honda hawk gt (cheap, not too nice, super fun) sv650 (fun, also cheap) mt07 (less cheap but also good all around) ktm 990 (I know, I know, but maybe it would be too big for someone to want to steal?) monster (I love suffering) HD xr1200 (  also wanted one of these for a while)big scooter (I love being comfortable while everyone laughs at me) beginner bike - ninja 250 R3 etc (slow bike fast really is a ton of fun, cheap, won't care if they get knocked over and unlikely to be stolen but... I do like acceleration too) Anything obvious I'm missing or other suggestions?
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Try to find out which category of bike gets stolen the least and buy that. My guess is maxi scooter.
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Carth Dookie posted:Try to find out which category of bike gets stolen the least and buy that. There's been a triumph thruxton parked in the same spot for literally at least six years and in that time I have had four bikes stolen from that spot and it's never once been touched. Googling it says a harley trike... But yeah, the burgman is up there.
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spouse posted:As for insurance, it's super weird. I have 0 accidents ever and 0 tickets in over a decade, and I've had my endorsement for 6 years AND I took a riding class a year ago. Why is a Katana, a 150hp upright literbike $800/yr from Progressive, same as an MT09, MT10, Ninja 650 (Wtf), and all these listed ADV bikes... but a Ninja 1000SX is $1800, same as if I wanted to buy a loving Hayabusa??? The Ninja 1000 has always had overpriced insurance, many suspect the insurers lump them in with the ZX-Rs for some reason. In my experience naked bikes are always cheap to insure regardless of how fast they are.
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builds character posted:There's been a triumph thruxton parked in the same spot for literally at least six years and in that time I have had four bikes stolen from that spot and it's never once been touched. Every would-be thief throws a leg over, and decides it ain't worth it. the ergonomics are crippling
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FBS posted:The Ninja 1000 has always had overpriced insurance If my ad responses for my Ninja 1000 are anything to go by, anyone who is interested in that bike is supremely dumb as gently caress
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builds character posted:There's been a triumph thruxton parked in the same spot for literally at least six years and in that time I have had four bikes stolen from that spot and it's never once been touched. The burgman 650 is a loving weapon and everyone needs to ride one at least once, they are genuinely brilliant and I would have one in my dream garage. Also the Kawasaki 300 scooter (I can't remember what it's called but it's based on a Chinese thing) is insanely, absurdly fast at accelerating to 100kmh; faster than an sv650 which I know for a fact. They are good but don't handle as well as big burg. I would not get a 'nice' bike like a Ducati if it's going to live in the street, you'll just be wrecking something pretty and eating a big depreciation hit for the sake of not really looking very cool because there's nothing worse than a weathered Ducati.
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My combined on-road insurance (Monkey 125, Vstrom 650) and off-road insurance (KLX300R, KLX140R, KTM250) is something like $270/year. Very cheap. It isn't just liability either, all of them are insured for replacement value.
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Slavvy posted:The burgman 650 is a loving weapon and everyone needs to ride one at least once, they are genuinely brilliant and I would have one in my dream garage. I've never ridden one, but I've sat on the big burg and a few other maxi scoots and I admit there's something about the seating. It's like riding a throne. Disagree about the weathered Ducati. Nothing like a beat up, dirty, scuffed up, lived in old Ducati to make you think "there goes a real one".
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Fortnine did a great video about the Burgman 650, because of course they did. Also, last page there was chat about a thermometer/temp sensor on a bike - I'm pretty sure my 2013 F800GS has one. It's not riding season here yet, and I pull my batteries out of my bikes to put them on a tender, so I can't go turn the key and see.
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Sorry folks, it's too late for me. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/242235915000009 GriszledMelkaba posted:If my ad responses for my Ninja 1000 are anything to go by, anyone who is interested in that bike is supremely dumb as gently caress So that's a vote for a ninja 1000 for me too. Slavvy posted:The burgman 650 is a loving weapon and everyone needs to ride one at least once, they are genuinely brilliant and I would have one in my dream garage. If I got a ducati it'd be like this https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/590699162791705/ or this https://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/mcy/d/leonia-2005-ducati-monster-s2r-800/7609552705.html not like this https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2238716759853022/ I don't really want a scooter but it does seem like I should give it more thought. Ideally I'd get a teeny tiny scooter and then also a motorcycle because it's always n+1. Finger Prince posted:I've never ridden one, but I've sat on the big burg and a few other maxi scoots and I admit there's something about the seating. It's like riding a throne. So I'd have to wear this as a helmet? https://www.etsy.com/listing/1382416297/richard-the-lionheart-helmet-monarch Captain McAllister posted:Fortnine did a great video about the Burgman 650, because of course they did.  I too am a faceless business man. jfc that storage though.
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Someone has this parked outside at my office: Business above, party below.
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I was close to buying an Executive Burg or a Silverwing, but the apparent complexity of working on them discouraged me from owning one. I'm more comfortable with working in traditional layouts
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FIL owns a silver wing and likes it. Doesn't have any issues I know one good thing about having no garage right now is that it's stopping me from being an mt07 as a second bike. Soon as we get a place with a garage I'm hosed and my wife is going to kill me lol.
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UCS Hellmaker posted:FIL owns a silver wing and likes it. Doesn't have any issues Same.
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I took a demo ride on both Kawaski 400s today and though I do fit on them (unlike the Yamaha starter bikes) they are still quite cramped. I got back on the FJR to ride home and wondered how often I'd be willing to fold myself up like that to go for a ride with the big fast couch sitting right next to it in the garage. I probably shouldn't spend any more energy on "what bike am I buying next" until I sell the MT-07 and probably the 919 too, and see how I feel with just one bike in the garage again. But I need something to daydream about at the office...
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FBS posted:I took a demo ride on both Kawaski 400s today and though I do fit on them (unlike the Yamaha starter bikes) they are still quite cramped. I got back on the FJR to ride home and wondered how often I'd be willing to fold myself up like that to go for a ride with the big fast couch sitting right next to it in the garage. What's making you want to go from an MT-07 to what I assume is the z400?
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Mostly because I've owned it for three and a half years and I'm tired of it. e: what I actually need to buy is a dual sport FBS fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Apr 22, 2023 |
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Slavvy posted:Also the Kawasaki 300 scooter (I can't remember what it's called but it's based on a Chinese thing) J300? It's made by Kymco iirc with some extra Kawasaki design bits. A while back i tested rode a Forza 350 and ever since I have been jonesing for a new 23MY Xmax 300 Tech Max but they aren't available in the UK yet. It gave me time to think about what I really need vs want so now I have an NMax 125 arriving in 12 day's time.
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After having a crisis of consciousness over my decision to pick up a Z650, I moved that deposit over to Trident 660 for delivery next week. Rode for a long time, took a few years off, and recently moved to an area with some pretty decent riding; so I am amped.
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You got Slavvy to compliment a Ninja 650. Let’s see what this latest move manages.
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a Triumph is usually more interesting than a Kawasaki
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Walked posted:After having a crisis of consciousness over my decision to pick up a Z650, I moved that deposit over to Trident 660 for delivery next week. Imagine I'm the sim city roads guy going NO! YOU WILL REGRET THIS!!! It's probably fine but still kind of a dumb thing to do, hopefully they're good with warranty repairs. It'll look cool parked by the cafe. FBS posted:a Triumph is usually more interesting than a Kawasaki Honestly nah. The speed triple is interesting, the Daytona is fast as gently caress for a 600, but that's about it. The twins are very much Just A Bike and the street triple is almost Honda-like in it's total lack of charisma, unless you think charging systems made of spaghetti are interesting. I don't picture a sleeved down street triple with super basic cycle parts being very interesting but neither is an er6.
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Split the difference and get a W650.
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Ulf posted:Split the difference and get a W650. This is a great idea. Though it's the w800 nowadays.
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My experiences with triumphs have definitely been more interesting than my experiences with kawasakis, yes
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FBS posted:Mostly because I've owned it for three and a half years and I'm tired of it. Kawasaki KLX300 if you’re actually going off-road, there is an SM version if you’re just doing gravel roads and not anything else.
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Thinking of a multi bike purchase - anything to look out for/know about the '23 versions of MT-09SP and PW50?
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schreibs posted:Thinking of a multi bike purchase - anything to look out for/know about the '23 versions of MT-09SP and PW50? Lol there is a 23 pw50?
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They reset the PW50 VIN each year. Make sure you don't get an unlucky number.
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Interesting, is there a better 50cc bike? Kid is almost 4, looking to get him onto something with a motor since he is handling pedal bike very well. TT-R50E? CRF50F?
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schreibs posted:Interesting, is there a better 50cc bike? Kid is almost 4, looking to get him onto something with a motor since he is handling pedal bike very well. TT-R50E? CRF50F? They're all much of a muchness in that category, get whatever is well priced and he's able to ride. They only really start to become meaningfully different when you get to the 80 2t/150 4t bracket. Nothing in the 50cc bracket has changed for the last few decades afaik.
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schreibs posted:Interesting, is there a better 50cc bike? Kid is almost 4, looking to get him onto something with a motor since he is handling pedal bike very well. TT-R50E? CRF50F? My brother bought his kid an xr50 with a big bore kit. It was entirely too much bike for a 5 year old, but he put big bars and risers on it, and it was a hoot and a holler redneck machine.
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All of the 50’s are basically the same. My kid has a Suzuki JR50 and I’d argue it’s not any better or worse than a PW50 or CRF50 or whatever. They’re a very known quantity and the manufacturers aren’t taking any bold risks with kids bikes, which is why they’ve all been basically the same since they were introduced Pick the color and the price you like the best.
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If a manufacturer were to create an RR version of a 50 though, which make would it be? Imagine how fun it would be as a pit bike, the maintenance intervals would be measured in tens of kms though.
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