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I've been collecting Shadowrun 2e (and some 1e/3e) books and there's something about that graphic design/layout style that's like putting my brain in a warm bath of nostalgia, I love it.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:True Shadowrun brain would be robbing a portajohn and leaving the results in the desk.
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Apr 25, 2023 14:28
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sebmojo posted:You can get random numbers by the dm thinking of a number between 1 and x, the player doing likewise, then adding them and having it rollover so for a d20, 15 plus 8 equals 3. Afaict there's no way to game that. Humans are bad at random generation, so the GM’s pick will trend towards certain patterns. The player can use this to guess which number the GM has picked and themselves choose a number that is likely to give the result they want.
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Apr 25, 2023 14:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:a very particular rabbit-hole lead me to discover Skirmisher Publishing's one-page Travel-Sized RPG, whose resolution system is Splicer fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Apr 25, 2023 |
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Apr 25, 2023 16:03
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I've been collecting Shadowrun 2e (and some 1e/3e) books and there's something about that graphic design/layout style that's like putting my brain in a warm bath of nostalgia, I love it. Shadowrun 2e was made during the great boom in TTRPGs, and the amount of stuff they could put into as many pages they did shows it. Those books were so drat good.
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Apr 25, 2023 16:20
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If your skill level is greater than (max-2)/4 the game turns into a 50/50 coin flip between you guessing 1+skill or max-skill while your GM picks 1 or max. Or the GM picking the middle number if they want to just give you a gimme.
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Apr 25, 2023 16:25
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Yeah I'm thinking "just get a dice roll app on your phone" is a more straightforward solution to "let's play an RPG while waiting at an airport terminal"
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Apr 25, 2023 16:33
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Write a bunch of airport stuff down matching 1 to X. Whichever happens next is your roll. "OK looks like you need luggage wheel breaks or better to make this roll" *baby starts crying* "...oof."
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Apr 25, 2023 16:38
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also if you want to avoid electronics and want a pocket-sized RNG that doesn't have the risk of losing dice under the seat or whatever, use a spinner! You could even make one out of laminated white card and draw your own lines with a protractor & write in your own values with wet erase marker.
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Apr 25, 2023 16:47
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Apr 25, 2023 16:57
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Shadowrun 2e was made during the great boom in TTRPGs, and the amount of stuff they could put into as many pages they did shows it. Those books were so drat good. Yeah I have been thinking about starting to collect the rest of the 2e set. I had such a good time playing it and being dumb, and our GM was so adamant that we not even talk about blood magic because it was FORBIDDEN.
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Apr 25, 2023 17:25
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all this just keeps reminding me of what is probably Giant Bomb's finest hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtbotWl4T8
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Apr 25, 2023 18:58
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Subjunctive posted:Yeah I have been thinking about starting to collect the rest of the 2e set. I had such a good time playing it and being dumb, and our GM was so adamant that we not even talk about blood magic because it was FORBIDDEN. Blood magic was for NPCs. Note that this was blood magic as written for SR, and not "Blood Magic" as it was written in its sister setting, Earthdawn. They were not the same. Later editions under Catalyst games expanded on Blood magic in ways it didn't really need and kindof cheapens it into another initiate power and really just shits all over it.
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Apr 25, 2023 19:30
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LatwPIAT posted:Humans are bad at random generation, so the GM’s pick will trend towards certain patterns. The player can use this to guess which number the GM has picked and themselves choose a number that is likely to give the result they want. I disagree, at least on the scale of an average game without an artificially huge amount of rolling. That's the same thing as saying you can predict the next number I'm thinking in any given series, which I don't think is the same as "people aren't very good at randomness". It would be an interesting thing to test actually. In any case trying to outguess the dm is a fun low stakes mini game.
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Apr 25, 2023 21:38
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Blood magic was for NPCs. Note that this was blood magic as written for SR, and not "Blood Magic" as it was written in its sister setting, Earthdawn. They were not the same. Not that first game to stat that which should never be statted, and not the last. Why did nobody learn from Deities and Demigods?
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Apr 25, 2023 22:56
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deities and demigods is basically just a conspiracy to let fantasy artist wife guys draw their spouse as aphrodite and get the players to pay for it and you know, i respect the hustle
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Apr 25, 2023 23:00
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:deities and demigods is basically just a conspiracy to let fantasy artist wife guys draw their spouse as aphrodite and get the players to pay for it Worked for Frank Franzetta. All those bodacious naked ladies? All just modeled on his wife in different wigs Fuckin' relationship goals
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Apr 25, 2023 23:24
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Asterite34 posted:Worked for Frank Franzetta. All those bodacious naked ladies? All just modeled on his wife in different wigs That begs the question of who modeled for Conan or the Ape monsters
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Apr 26, 2023 00:32
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Shadowrun 2e was made during the great boom in TTRPGs, and the amount of stuff they could put into as many pages they did shows it. Those books were so drat good. I'd kill for a piece of original Laubenstein art from the 1e/2e era.
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Apr 26, 2023 00:59
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I'd kill for a piece of original Laubenstein art from the 1e/2e era. https://twitter.com/illustratorjeff?lang=en looks like he's active on twitter. I'd tweet him directly to see if he knows what happened to them, or you could try to commission something directly.
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Apr 26, 2023 02:06
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I'd kill for a piece of original Laubenstein art from the 1e/2e era. Those color plates in the 1e core rulebook. 
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Apr 26, 2023 03:18
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Plutonis posted:That begs the question of who modeled for Conan or the Ape monsters Conan was himself.
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Apr 26, 2023 03:56
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ninjoatse.cx posted:https://twitter.com/illustratorjeff?lang=en Yeah, I actually got my friend (member of our original 6th grade shadowrun group) one of the goblin tokens he was doing back during the pandemic. The dream is the original art for the Shadowrun logo- I think Noble Knight has it for 35k or so.
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Apr 26, 2023 04:10
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Not that first game to stat that which should never be statted, and not the last. Why did nobody learn from Deities and Demigods?
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Apr 26, 2023 08:53
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Whybird posted:Idk what it is about players and making GBS threads in desks. office culture
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Apr 26, 2023 12:29
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I've been collecting Shadowrun 2e (and some 1e/3e) books and there's something about that graphic design/layout style that's like putting my brain in a warm bath of nostalgia, I love it. Speak of the devil, got a couple more today, collection is coming along! 
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Apr 26, 2023 15:56
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GERMANY SOURCEBOOK
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Apr 26, 2023 16:11
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Paranormal animals of Europe 😮
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Apr 26, 2023 16:58
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:Speak of the devil, got a couple more today, collection is coming along! I have all of those...bought new. 
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Apr 26, 2023 17:56
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I have all of those...bought new. Shadowrun is my favorite IP, I haven't played it in years, but at one point I had every gamebook and every novel.  I think a few of the gamebooks got misplaced over the years, and I gave away the novels decades ago.
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Apr 26, 2023 18:47
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I've got a 1st edition core book autographed by one of the designers. It might be worth something...if you overlook the front cover being held on with cellotape.
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Apr 26, 2023 18:52
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This was brought up in the TG industry thread and I don't want to detract from the protracted posters war against wizards of the coast, but I don't get why people love alignment in games. it seems like a bad idea to say "here's objective good/evil and we can measure it" even in a fatnasty setting where devils and gods hang out, especially since the guy who invented alignment is pretty underqualified to speak on it. And outside of that, from a gameplay perspective, i think it restricts more than it adds. i'm kinda hoping someone cool can sell me on it.
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Ominous Jazz posted:This was brought up in the TG industry thread and I don't want to detract from the protracted posters war against wizards of the coast, but I don't get why people love alignment in games. People love to categorize things, duhhh. That's why even stupider poo poo like the political alignment chart is super popular.
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Apr 26, 2023 19:03
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I personally think it can work really well if most people don't participate in the alignment system as such. Like how 4th ed had most creatures as unaligned. To qualify as good, evil, lawful etc you are held to a more exacting standard, and when they show up it's to make a contrast to the more pragmatic normal people. Let the guy playing superman be special for playing superman essentially.
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Alignment makes for really terrible and embarrassing memes, and also creates the stupidest forums slap fights, so I'm totally on board with anything that kills it.
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Apr 26, 2023 19:06
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The only thing I think alignment is useful for is in published adventures or sourcebooks as a shorthand way of telling a GM how to play a particular NPC. Like, if you say the sheriff is Lawful Good or Lawful Evil that streamlines understanding how to play them to one line. It's not the only way to do it (GDW's playing card NPC motivation system was rad) but I can see a use for it. When I was running D&D I never even asked my players if they wrote anything down for alignment, and I agree that any game mechanics predicated on 'only works on Evil targets' or something is a quagmire best avoided.
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Apr 26, 2023 19:07
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Like evenworse just said, alignment is an incredibly useful tool for broad strokes characterization. Two-axis helps, because then you get stuff like elven chaotic good versus paladin lawful good. And it's also useful for aligning the cosmic forces of good and evil in what's supposed to be a big, giant, multiverse spanning conflict. Players have to choose because mechanics build off of it, and that's fine because you're aligning yourself with deities and the cosmos and all that stuff. It's not a straightjacket. Gygax or whomever making people do gotcha "do you kill the orc babies" poo poo is bad gaming, but alignment is perfectly fine at the table 99% of the time and the 1% of the time it isn't, talk to the other players like adults. e: to be clear, you don't need it in everything. but it's the D&D political equivalent of splatbook stuff like Vampire's clans/sects, and that is pretty useful as a game tool.
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:Speak of the devil, got a couple more today, collection is coming along! Nevermind that Shadowrun nonsense, you got yourself Transdimensional TMNT. That's the good good.
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Apr 26, 2023 19:21
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Dawgstar posted:Nevermind that Shadowrun nonsense, you got yourself Transdimensional TMNT. That's the good good. And there's a copy of Robertson Davies' "Murther and Walking Spirits" hiding underneath I think. TRIPLE GOOD.
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It's nice to have something written on your sheet to act as training wheels for RP. The two alignment axis are triangular training wheels made of lead and greased with mercury.
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