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I had a costrochondral separation on one of the lower ribs while rolling and it took me off the mats for a few months, then i could only roll gently for a few months more, then I was back to normal rolling. But 1-2 years later I could still feel the injury if i flexed in certain directions - no pain, but I felt a weird little twinge, a sensation that it was still a weak spot, still had the potential for re-injury.
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The timing is lovely because I'm deploying in a month and a half, this was my window to train a lot before a big question mark for the next year. Hopefully there will be some dudes who want to grapple when I get where I'm going.
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# ? Apr 8, 2023 23:28 |
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Nestharken posted:Don't have much to add, but these are super interesting from a layperson's perspective. Yeah, I've found all this sort of stuff interesting as well as pedagogical practices/approaches. I think just discussing and developing a concept of what role curriculum plays in jiu iitsu (really any sport) is kind of important. One of the things we all seem to comment on is some degree of poor education practice existing in jiu jitsu from our own anecdotes. So like, any form of commentary is useful tbh.
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# ? Apr 9, 2023 01:11 |
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Have any of you guys ever trained with Saulo or Xande? We have an opportunity to affiliate and it seems like a pretty good fit, but I want to make sure that they aren't assholes.
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# ? Apr 10, 2023 09:35 |
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Friend trained at an affiliate and said saulo's visits were a highlight. Second hand I know
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It may not mean much but Saulo's book Jujitsu University is excellent.
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Count Roland posted:It may not mean much but Saulo's book Jujitsu University is excellent.
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# ? Apr 10, 2023 15:45 |
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I live in Austin and visited Xande's school and it was good.
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# ? Apr 10, 2023 22:01 |
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Jack Slack did a twitter thread of good/recommended instructionals (most of which are grappling related) https://twitter.com/JackSlackMMA/status/1645728722287247360
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:Anyone recommend a good jiu jitsu spot to train in the southern Vermont, NW portion of Mass? I will be looking at real estate in the area and just wondering if there are any good places to drop in and train. Ill also be in Burlington for a day. Ended up finding very little to nada in the southern portion of Vermont and eastern New Hampshire. Did roll with a blue belt that owned a gym in Brattleboro and a Brown belt that owned a gym in Keene, NH. I guess there are still places in the country where Jiu Jitsu is a bit abyssmal. Tacos Al Pastor fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 11, 2023 |
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Vermont and NH are pretty bleak. The few people i know in south east NH make the trip over to Portland ME to train.
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# ? Apr 11, 2023 19:27 |
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Does amateur wrestling exist outside of olympics/college/hs like are there wrestling schools for 20 year olds with little asperation?
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Defenestrategy posted:Does amateur wrestling exist outside of olympics/college/hs like are there wrestling schools for 20 year olds with little asperation? USA wrestling is a thing, right? I seem to recall them representing wrestling clubs but I don't know if they're academic or not. I'm not aware of any strictly wrestling gyms but I know of a few mma that have dedicated wrestling classes. I wonder if the lack of popularity is due to how brutal the training can be?
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I have the best coach. I'm going to a nearby gym tonight to get some rolls in with strangers to practice for the tourney this weekend. We just had this exchange.
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Acinonyx posted:Vermont and NH are pretty bleak. The few people i know in south east NH make the trip over to Portland ME to train. Sounds like a good place to open a school.
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Thought I'd share this interesting video from an old training partner of mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkdFeQhVmKk. Don't be fooled by the title - Jeff's hardly an "average" BJJ guy, he has a couple pro MMA fights under his belt including a win by RNC in OneFC - but I thought it was really fun watching him rolling at full speed with some super high level competitors including BOTH Miyao brothers.
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# ? Apr 14, 2023 03:34 |
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Can the mayao brothers walk at this point, or have they continued their "not giving a gently caress about their own knees and ankles" strategy?
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My registration for this weekend's tourney got canceled. No other old and skinny blue belts signed up besides me. I think my only option was to jump in with the 200lbs+ old dudes and that ain't gonna happen. Still gonna go to support the gym, though. It'll be nice eating a big dinner while those cutting weight consider how they're gonna murder me at Sunday open mat.
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Legit Businessman posted:Can the mayao brothers walk at this point, or have they continued their "not giving a gently caress about their own knees and ankles" strategy? That is literally all those guys do is jiu jitsu 24/7. Imagine all that time devoted to figuring out how to NOT get your legs broken.
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I forgot that I should notify my instructor to check up on me for a test to move from beginner class to regular one, so I did two rounds of the intro course (almost 40 sessions total) instead of one. Have been sparring for a while now but can't wait to start over and not understand anything in the learning classes. I guess I also need a gi now...
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lovely tuna snatch posted:I forgot that I should notify my instructor to check up on me for a test to move from beginner class to regular one, so I did two rounds of the intro course (almost 40 sessions total) instead of one. Have been sparring for a while now but can't wait to start over and not understand anything in the learning classes. I guess I also need a gi now... I still enjoy the beginner classes because you forget little details. I cant tell you how many times Ive seen someone go for an armbar from mount and then not pinch the knees.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/bjj/commen...nt=share_button What a scumbag
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# ? Apr 27, 2023 10:37 |
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gotta do anything possible to get that stupid piece of tin on a lanyard that costs $5 to make
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So earlier this month I posted a really academic sounding paper that I wrote for a class about a kid's jiu jitsu class and analyzed it in terms of how the intended, enacted and experienced curriculum all worked or didn't work out. I then was advised to take it down as it was verbatim what I was going to turn in and could have gotten into some tricky spots with plagiarism so then I took it down. Anyway it's back now but I edited it down to make it less nerdy, easier reading, and also more "normal" to talk about. Keep in mind it isn't a breakdown on what should or shouldn't be done, but more so analyzing the curriculum with regards to the theories and applications I was reading and learning about in my graduate studies class. Mekchu posted:OK here is the thing I wrote and then took down and edited a bit (thanks to CarlCX for the assist and Commonshore for suggesting I take it down until after it was turned in).
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Mekchu posted:gotta do anything possible to get that stupid piece of tin on a lanyard that costs $5 to make The entire bjj tournament scene is extremely stupid, but im not sure how youd reform it with out every coach taking a firm hand about it instead of just playing the game. I do appreciate my coach is a savage in this regard. One of our former wrestlers who has excellent take downs told him he wanted to compete a few months in advance and my coach promotes him to blue right before the tournament registration cut off forcing dude to compete at blue in the gi division, even though coach could have promoted him on the podium or after.
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https://www.flograppling.com/articles/10918770-flosports-announces-deal-with-adcc-as-exclusive-streaming-partner ADCC is back on Flo now for 2024 after a whole 3 months with the UFC Fight Pass deal Commonshore was right, this sport will never develop beyond its current level of niche because the people running it are idiots Edit - Also, the guy who caused the event to be delayed, and was also really petty and lovely about stuff online (Seth from Fight2Win) had this to say Mekchu fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Apr 28, 2023 |
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Mekchu posted:ADCC is back on Flo now for 2024 after a whole 3 months with the UFC Fight Pass deal It's always astounded me that former? goon favorite tiny indy fed that could, Mountain State Wrestling could put on a television production every week with dudes probably paid not more than a sammich back in what 2015? and have better production than most BJJ live streams in TYOOL 202X
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Mekchu posted:https://www.flograppling.com/articles/10918770-flosports-announces-deal-with-adcc-as-exclusive-streaming-partner If anyone thinks the production value and presentation of events is better handled at Flo then the UFC, then yes, they are indeed idiots. Moving it to UFC was going to increase exposure to the sport. But you have greedy indivuduals that are willing to pull the sport back to niche to line their own pockets. Having the UFC handle events would have been a giant evolutionary step forward for sub grappling.
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Grapple Hut Huddle, May 2023 THIS MONTH'S BIG GRAPPLING EVENTS May 5 - ONE Fight Night 10 (Amazon Prime in USA) ONE Fight Night 10 will have two pretty good match ups for grappling in terms of “this is what ONE sees as their version of grappling.” First up is Tye Ruotolo taking on former ONE LHW (225 lbs) champion and current ONE Middleweight (205 lbs) champion Reinier de Ridder in a ONE Middleweight (205 lbs) Grappling match. Then in the first of three title fights for the night, ONE Flyweight Grappling champion Mikey Musumeci is facing off against Osamah Almarwai who actually has more mainstream grappling experience and isn’t just a random SAMBO guy sent out to face a leg locker without knowing any leg lock defense. Almarwai has won the 2022 IBJJF No-Gi World championship, IBJJF Pan No-Gi championship in 2022, and the IBJJF World Mater championship also in 2022. He was kinda busy, so this should be at least an interesting match as compared to the last time Mikey went out to compete in ONE. ONE Fight Night 10 will have two pretty good match ups for grappling in terms of “this is what ONE sees as their version of grappling.” First up is Tye Ruotolo taking on former ONE LHW (225 lbs) champion and current ONE Middleweight (205 lbs) champion Reinier de Ridder in a ONE Middleweight (205 lbs) Grappling match. Then in the first of three title fights for the night, ONE Flyweight Grappling champion Mikey Musumeci is facing off against Osamah Almarwai who actually has more mainstream grappling experience and isn’t just a random SAMBO guy sent out to face a leg locker without knowing any leg lock defense. Almarwai has won the 2022 IBJJF No-Gi World championship, IBJJF Pan No-Gi championship in 2022, and the IBJJF World Mater championship also in 2022. He was kinda busy, so this should be at least an interesting match as compared to the last time Mikey went out to compete in ONE. May 18 - Tezos WNO 18: Meregali vs. Marinho (FloGrappling) I would say this would be worth watching but I can’t really be asked to watch any of the WNO events. Mostly because they have silly/bad rules for viewing and also because the main event is going to be a gi match between Nicholas Meregali and Pedro Marinho at heavyweight. Also on the card is Rafael Lovato Jr. taking on Elder Cruz at light heavyweight, Jacob Couch facing off against Izaak Michell at middleweight, and Tubby Alequin (I wish that was a made up name) competing in a flyweight match against Alex Enriquez. Honestly, does anyone actually watch WNO? THE NEWS You know when sports try to get super serious and say “we’re going to punish you if you do X or Y and we mean it” and they actually do what they said they’d do? Like in baseball when Shoeless Joe Jackson actually was banned from playing baseball ever again in a professional league because of the BlackSox Scandal? Or when the NFL will give out suspensions for PED abuse and actually stick to those suspensions? Yeah BJJ doesn’t have that. Noted PED abuses Mica Galvao and Roberto ‘Cyborg’ Abreu were both popped by USADA for their violations and drug use and prohibited from competing by IBJJF (granted this was in IBJJF events specifically). Well they decided “eh, screw that” and went to compete in BJJ Stars over this past month for a shot at a $40,000 tournament championship. Kind of defeats the purpose of having USADA involved in the sport now doesn’t it? Speaking of Mica Galvao in that BJJ Stars event, he reached the quarter-finals and faced off against ADCC gold medalist and fellow PED abuser Kaynan Duarte. During the match, Galvao wound up having his MCL torn when Duarte reaped his knee going for a leg entanglement which resulted in a loud *POP* that could be heard on the broadcast. Duarte was disqualified and Galvao did decide to go on to the semifinals only to lose to Fellipe Andrew probably because he was competing with a knee that had involuntarily exploded. Next, this was meant to be brought up last month but I decided to sit on it until now. Recently in the USA, the ace of monetization Rener Gracie served as an expert witness in a lawsuit where a jiu jitsu student who was paralyzed after an accident during a sparring session sued their former coach over the incident. Gracie’s role was to serve as an expert witness as he was hired by the plaintiff’s legal team to do so, with reports being he received a hefty sum of money in the hundreds of thousands for his hours of testimony. Allegedly Gracie has donated that money to charity. As part of his testimony, Gracie broke down the situation and the general need for safety when performing it. He also compared the gym’s protocols to his own Gracie University and gave information on how the defendant’s methods of safety and control were not adequate. The lawsuit ended with the jury awarding the plaintiff $46 million in compensation, though that doesn’t mean it’s just going straight to his pocket. The final and more baffling bit of news is that the ADCC announced they are now returning to FloSports/FloGrappling for the 2023/2024 ADCC competition season with the World Championships being aired on Flo’s streaming service. This is just a few months after the UFC’s Fight Pass service announced an exclusive deal but that seems to now no longer be the case, likely as a result of the Endeavor purchasing of WWE, and announcing the UFC & WWE will form a new company.This is…lovely and bad. FloSports sucks in terms of its service in general, and that’s not getting into the whole “paying $30/month for streams that have the wrong audio/video feeds” aspect on top of the whole shady “we’re gonna pretend there’s no monthly subscription option only on FloGrappling but offer it on FloRugby etc. to trick people into buying a yearly subscription” that Flo has been doing for years now. I like the ADCC as a competition, but highly doubt I’m going to put much effort towards watching the 2024 event. PUTTING SOME ‘PEDs’ IN YOUR PEDAGOGY Much like last month I’m going to take time away from discussing a specific technique and focus more on educational concepts and how they apply to jiu jitsu. Again, this is a topic I feel is pretty vital and important for anyone to understand or at least be aware of when it comes to any form of learning. While last time I spoke about curriculum, this time I’m going to focus on pedagogy or how the information is taught. Both curriculum and pedagogy are vital in how well a learner can develop a sense of understanding of the information they’re being shown. One important thing to know about pedagogy is that it involves much more than “just teaching” the material. A good instructor needs to ensure their method of teaching embodies the aims and purposes of the curriculum. A common misconception is that a teacher can just “wing it” and teach without much forethought. In reality, the best forms of teaching are when there is a clear purpose or goal for the teacher to attain. Think about the often commented upon “My coach just watched a YouTube video 5 minutes before the class and taught that for the day” incident. There’s not much of a clear purpose or goal for the lesson. Teaching effectively requires not only the teacher to clearly understand the goal, but for the student to know what the goal for the lesson is. This allows the student to be able to clearly know where the standard for the learnt material is going to be. When your coach is demonstrating the technique fully and explaining what the specific technique accomplishes, this is an example of that. Memes like this do have some root in actual learning, even if they are sort of cringey and absolutely wrong in practice. In general there are several forms of pedagogical approaches a coach can use to ensure the material is being learnt. Collaborative pedagogy: Using a collaborative approach is where the instructor emphasizes group work and cooperative learning. Rather than everyone focusing on just what the coach says or shows for the technique, they allow the students to split up into groups with partners and drill the technique. Then, for example, Partner A notices something Partner B is doing and they work out why its happening and how it can help or hinder the execution of the technique. This is, in my opinion, one of the most common forms of learning in a jiu jitsu environment and is especially seen utilized at open mats. You’re still getting your instructor to provide assistance in the learning, but the problem-solving and collaborative work helps personalize the learning for the individual which in turns helps with retention. Explicit instruction: This form of instruction involves a clear, direct teaching of a specific skill or skills as well as knowledge. In the context of jiu jitsu, this is typically seen when your instructor breaks down the technique into smaller and more manageable chunks or steps. You’d likely then drill that several times in a row until you felt comfortable understanding the steps of the technique. This is also where the instructor would likely spot flaws in your execution and provide guidance or assistance. Much like collaboration, this is one of the most common forms of learning in jiu jitsu. Critical pedagogy: This is a form of pedagogy that is rarely, if ever, utilized. Specifically this approach to learning focuses on challenging the power structures and encouraging a student to think critically about social issues related to the topic. So for jiu jitsu it would be more about discussing or learning about the history or culture of the sport and the related issues involved with it. This is actually a pretty useful form of learning as it allows you to relate what you know about jiu jitsu and apply it to more broader issues such as power, privilege and justice. Place-based pedagogy: When using this method of pedagogy, your instructor is emphasizing connecting your learning to the local environment and community. For jiu jitsu this would likely be seen int he form of again exploring the history and traditions of jiu jitsu in that specific area or country where the gym is located. This isn’t not a very common approach when it comes to jiu jitsu but is still somewhat useful to know about and can be used but is more for a academic or non-bio mechanical understanding. Caring pedagogy: This final approach, much like its name implies, is one that emphasizes empathy and compassion in the teaching, and emphasizes the emotional and social needs of students. When relating this to jiu jitsu, this would likely be where the gym is created to provide a safe and supportive and caring learning environment. One such place that students would feel comfortable sharing their experiences and concerns with their instructors and fellow students. In this form of pedagogy, a jiu jitsu coach would be using supportive language and positive reinforcement to help students feel valued and respected, and encourage students to develop their own sense of self-worth and confidence through their training. This is pretty common in most gyms, though there are elements of the inverse of this where a more harsh and demeaning approach towards pushing students to do better is employed. Some Final Thoughts Now that we’ve explored some pedagogical approaches we should also make mention of some final points about teaching in general. When teaching, it is vital to understand the importance of validity when teaching. What this means is that there is a need for teachers to be able to reflect on their current pedagogical practices and assess how well their methods are working. Additionally, when talking about teaching it is also important to note that there is no adequate definition of “quality teaching.” Sure there is some idea or sense of what is or is not good teaching but there is not a set standard. The primary influence on learning is quality teaching, but “quality” may mean something different to different people. Instead its important for a student to develop meaningful experiences when learning, which in turn leads to better retention of the information. This is only just scratching the surface on the role of pedagogy and how best to utilize it in the context of jiu jitsu but should offer some insight into how you see it used regularly in a class without realizing it or understanding how and why it can be utilized to develop a better learning environment. Try to think of how your gym’s instruction works and what are the ways the teacher actively passes on their knowledge to you. Which approach do they utilize? Why? What could they do to improve their teaching? These are all questions people should be asking as we try to improve the educational practices in jiu jitsu. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 3, 2023 |
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Question: knowing what you know about jits culture would you say that its actually a good thing that critical pedagogy is rarely done in jits. Do you really want most coaches to wax poetic with lovely opinions?
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Defenestrategy posted:Question: knowing what you know about jits culture would you say that its actually a good thing that critical pedagogy is rarely done in jits. Do you really want most coaches to wax poetic with lovely opinions? i'm about to go to bed so i can't really talk in length/depth on it right now but that's not necessarily all critical pedagogy is. "critical" means to not just blindly accept X or Y as fact and actively analyze what is being taught or said in this context and also why such a thing exists or happens. thus, you wouldn't be waxing lovely opinions (yes i know that would most likely happen in this sort of setting). so, say you're talking about the history of the gracies. why did they have the access to maeda et al to begin with over some other family? what power structures did they take advantage of both knowingly and unknowingly? how is it that only they had the name/branding involved that led to ~gracie jiu jitsu~ and all the stuff they did in rio back in the 1950s or 60s or whenever it was exactly? that's what you'd be critical of in your discussion. this isn't a 'person gives opinions and there's no debate/critical analysis of it' because if that were the case then you're not engaged in a critical analysis of the topic. can it be abused by insane weirdos? yes, but so can any of the other forms of pedagogy listed do i think it is still a useful form of teaching even if there are some insane weirdos who try to use it for their own hosed up stuff? yes, because being critical of any form of information you're presented is useful and necessary for a variety of reasons. the pedagogical practice itself isn't the problem, its the person trying to distort it from what its meant to do to suit their own personal interests. tldr: personally, i think its useful as a method of teaching in general (outside of jiu jitsu) but its less the culture of jiu jitsu not being adequate for that form of pedagogy, and more so the material/focus of jiu jitsu knowledge being less reliant on that form of teaching than anything. jiu jitsu as a whole rarely allows for critical analysis of itself internally due to group think etc. because most of the time the people who are in charge at gyms are incurious and lack the critical thinking skills with regards to this sort of thing. imo. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 2, 2023 |
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hope you don't mind me chiming in about jits pedagogy. it is really interesting, and with all things i think there's value in a broad exploration. explicit instruction is generally the most efficient way to get the most amount of people to absorb the goal amount of information and perform it to an acceptable standard. the nature of this instruction usually means that with sufficient class size there are going to be people who aren't able to keep up and people who will disengage due to a lack of challenge. if you're teaching a class in this method and just wanted to be the best teacher ever, try and account for this. collaborative learning would also be something i'd recommend. like the dds getting a group of people who learn and develop in similar ways can theoretically provide massive leaps forward in skill acquisition and competence, but there is an inherent danger of tunnel vision and losing touch with the jits world at large. critical pedagogy i'd probably liken to the explosion of leglocks. gracie jits thought leg locks were without honour or whatever and then someone went 'hang on, i just want to win' and then a massive revolution began. especially as you begin to develop mastery, you may lose sight of why you do what you do. always try and interrogate and re-interrogate the way you roll. mostly though, i think the caring pedagogy is the most important. better they rock up to training at all than train in the most efficient way. always look out for your peeps.
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To add to what I said last night, you're also not meant to just take in what your coach says as the gospel truth as that is not being critical of the information either. You, the student, are also meant to be part of that critical analysis of what is being taught. Its a form of conversation so to speak. Which again isn't as common in bjj/sports circles due to incurious people not really being willing or conditioned to do that, as most sports begin from a point of X authority must be listened to no matter what. You see it in baseball, football, etc. with head coaches being in total authoritative control over all aspects of what is being taught. It isn't just on the teacher's end, but it is up to the teacher to build/foster a learning environment that supports such approaches to learning. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 23:59 on May 2, 2023 |
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Can someone help me understand this chart?
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Would you prefer a video, a roll, or a demonstration to help explain it?
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FastestGunAlive posted:Would you prefer a video, a roll, or a demonstration to help explain it? Id like an article please.
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Two weeks later, you'll remember this percentage of a technique based on how you interacted with it. The worst is reading and watching videos, the best is drilling and teaching.
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Ah, I thought it was retention meaning attendance, not retention of the material taught. Cool, cool. Though lol at retaining 50% of what I drilled in the past two weeks. I'm lucky to remember what I drilled the previous class.
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# ? May 3, 2023 01:41 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:Two weeks later, you'll remember this percentage of a technique based on how you interacted with it. The worst is reading and watching videos, the best is drilling and teaching. ah well this is chart can't be right, because I remember nothing of what I teach but I can tell you exactly how Xande Ribero would have screwed up any given move in jiujitsu university.
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I'm just guessing
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