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The Japanese term that’s being translated as Augmented Human there is the same that in Gundam is translated as Cyber Newtype.
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i am not finding doan's island even though it is april 27th and now that i am looking it up only one article seems to have said that crunchyroll is releasing it, and that article was not on crunchyroll i am upset
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Apr 27, 2023 22:32
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ninjewtsu posted:if you just want to get into UC: the movies are perfectly good and much much faster This may be the most agreeable summation of both sides of this debate, well done
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Apr 27, 2023 22:41
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Gripweed posted:The Japanese term that’s being translated as Augmented Human there is the same that in Gundam is translated as Cyber Newtype. Yeah they've had newtypes since some of the PS1 games. I think you could even undergo a cyber newtype process in the later ones.
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i started with Unicorn and turned out fine i also watched the Rebuild Eva movies in reverse release order, quite liked that
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Azubah posted:Yeah they've had newtypes since some of the PS1 games. I think you could even undergo a cyber newtype process in the later ones. You could go cyber newtype game 1. It was your reward for being bad at the game.
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ninjewtsu posted:i am not finding doan's island even though it is april 27th and now that i am looking it up only one article seems to have said that crunchyroll is releasing it, and that article was not on crunchyroll I checked several times today and it sure was not there.
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chiasaur11 posted:You could go cyber newtype game 1. It was your reward for being bad at the game. Yeah, there are plenty of cyber newtypes in AC, not a lot of the real ones though cause AC is. Pretty cynical!
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Blaze Dragon posted:I checked several times today and it sure was not there. If it's anything like the release dates for other movies they've put on the site this month it'll happen real late in the evening.
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biz cas fri is back: https://www.rsvlts.com/collections/gundam
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oh my god the haro one why are these 70 bones
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Waffleman_ posted:oh my god the haro one Not sure. I'd do the Wing Zero one for a Hawaiian shirt thing at half the price.
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ninjewtsu posted:i am not finding doan's island even though it is april 27th and now that i am looking it up only one article seems to have said that crunchyroll is releasing it, and that article was not on crunchyroll Blaze Dragon posted:I checked several times today and it sure was not there. i should never have doubted https://www.crunchyroll.com/watch/GEVUZN090/mobile-suit-gundam-cucuruz-doans-island-english-dub Srice posted:If it's anything like the release dates for other movies they've put on the site this month it'll happen real late in the evening.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Yeah, there are plenty of cyber newtypes in AC, not a lot of the real ones though cause AC is. Pretty cynical! Still has some real ones, though. Fatman and RD in the V series games are the most blatant examples. I'd even say that Lynx in 4 are in a grey area, since their natural compatibility is used by the NEXT rather than being a result of cybernetics.
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Just popping in again to note I'm watching episode 5 of Stardust, and wow. Nina's really off from scene 1 with the new writer. In the first four episodes, she's kind of distant, trying to keep her cool, very professional. She's clearly warming to Kou, and them winding up together feels like the natural progression of their plots, but as of the end of episode 4, they were coworkers who were just starting to be friends. You get the feeling that, (without Mora intervening), she and Kou would take forever to get anywhere, even as it was obvious to all and sundry that they were going to. First scene with her in episode 5, she and Kou are right next to each other, in close physical contact that suggests a lot of progression. Then the next scene, she's badmouthing Kou, when just last episode she hyped him up talking about how, wow, this kid got way better performance from the Gundam than she had any right to expect. Episode 1-4 Nina could be stubborn, made questionable calls sometimes, and wasn't sure on her feelings for Kou, but she was a likable enough person, and clearly got along well with the Ensign. Here, she's taking the first steps towards the incomprehensible mess of clashing characterizations that will make her the most hated female character in Gundam. And Kou doesn't come off much better, responding to criticism of not taking piloting seriously enough by going MAXIMUM CHILDISHNESS at random. It worked when Amuro did it because Amuro was consistently a dumbass teen who really did understand the Gundam better than anyone else, but Kou had been level-headed enough until now, and he slapped a disc giving the Gundam upgraded performance out of Nina's hands because... pride? Like, even if he won, that'd be showing the exact thing he was accused of, not some kind of ace pilot genius. It's just... bad. On the upside, Cima's here, and her complete lack of respect for the Delaz fleet is charming. (She also has a nice "My troops are idiots... but they're my idiots." attitude, showing just the right amount of anger at their deaths to feel like she cares and doesn't want to show it.) Back on the downside, cripes Delaz is insufferable. Like, Gihren's a genocidal shithead who takes comparisons to Hitler as a compliment, but I'll give him this. The man can give a speech. Gihren plays a crowd, you go "I get it. I hate it and everything it stands for, but I get it." Delaz, meanwhile, just sounds like an rear end in a top hat who's bitter about losing. He might as well be saying that he got the bad controller and also he wasn't trying that hard and he's gonna tell mom. I'm also kinda disappointed with the fights, which should be a highlight from the animation and detail. Having Cima freak out about the Gundam's armor right after Keith takes a full on barrage with no visible damage hurts the scene on both ends. Sure, different weapons, different impact, but when the scrub in a grunt suit is completely ignoring attacks while the hero in the Gundam nearly dies, it doesn't make the Gundam look tough. It just makes the already contrived scene feel even more contrived. It all started so well, but 5 episodes in, the wheels are already falling off. Shame.
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90%-95% of my complaints about the way Gundam handles Zeon can be laid at the hands of 0083 (and IGLOO). Its annoying because the first few episodes were good.
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sounds like you just don't like 0083 and have extrapolated that onto the rest of the franchise for some reason
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There's something to it. Once the UC slips out of Tomino's hands you start seeing more and more a flirtation with Zeon as Anti hero or Zeon as Freedom Fighter rather than the more nuanced Tominian Zeon as evil entity composed of people with more or less Grey in their morality, tending towards black as one gazes up the hierarchy of power.
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https://twitter.com/ar031995/status/1651904340628590592?t=rUvDpO4Ime4Xka2O2x6hwA&s=19 I'm not sure if I should be concerned or proud that I can name all of these.
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It's fine. Although you can tell it was made for one of those 4D things. It's the first time I've ever watched a video and noticed that my chair isn't shaking when it's supposed to.
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Gaius Marius posted:There's something to it. Once the UC slips out of Tomino's hands you start seeing more and more a flirtation with Zeon as Anti hero or Zeon as Freedom Fighter rather than the more nuanced Tominian Zeon as evil entity composed of people with more or less Grey in their morality, tending towards black as one gazes up the hierarchy of power. This. Stuff like IGLOO's "OUR BRAVE YOUNG SOLDIERS SACRIFICING THEMSELVES FOR THE FATHERLAND vs THE FEDERATION'S HORRIBLE CHILD SOLDIERS SENT TO DIE FOR NO REASON", or Code Fairy's "Cute girls doing cute things, like praying for victory at the ruins of the Hidolfr"
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IGLOO is definitely the nadir of the franchise's slow fetishization of the space fascists, with the first show ending with Oliver waxing poetic about the sacrifices of all the brave doomed pilots he served with while the Zeon flag is superimposed over him. Gravity Front wasn't as obnoxiously pro-Zeon but that was because it was spending all of its time portraying the Federation as an incompetent death cult populated with the worst kind of violent psychopaths imaginable.Arc Hammer posted:https://twitter.com/ar031995/status/1651904340628590592?t=rUvDpO4Ime4Xka2O2x6hwA&s=19 I'm losing my mind at the crater where Wing is supposed to be.
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3 posted:I'm losing my mind at the crater where Wing is supposed to be. I know, it's completely inaccurate. Heero did a terrible job trying to blow up his Gundam, how could he have managed?
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Arc Hammer posted:I know, it's completely inaccurate. Heero did a terrible job trying to blow up his Gundam, how could he have managed? He used Gundanium in the explosives, obviously.
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Honestly, the Hildolfr and its legacy don't seem like they'd be too out of place in Tomino's take on Zeon. He regularly showed sympathy for the dignity and humanity of average-Joe soldiers stuck fighting a losing war their superiors had started for stupid reasons - see, for example, Time, Be Still - and let them pull off badass stunts and heroic last stands against the good guys. It's the officers responsible for broader strategy who he tended to reserve the much greater share of his venom for.
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Darth Walrus posted:Honestly, the Hildolfr and its legacy don't seem like they'd be too out of place in Tomino's take on Zeon. He regularly showed sympathy for the dignity and humanity of average-Joe soldiers stuck fighting a losing war their superiors had started for stupid reasons - see, for example, Time, Be Still - and let them pull off badass stunts and heroic last stands against the good guys. It's the officers responsible for broader strategy who he tended to reserve the much greater share of his venom for. It's explicitly "honorable soldier who died in the great zeon cause" though in Code Fairy, not "Tragic victim of war who died honorably." And, again, a team of cute waifus are praying at the wreckage for victory for Zeon, so that's like.
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None of the soldiers in Mobile Suit Gundam that express any kind of reason for fighting are doing so because of a belief in Zeon's cause or even because of any national sentiment or devotion to their leaders. Gene in the first episode wants to advance in the ranks, the soldiers in "Time, Be Still" just want to go home, Ramba Ral expressly accepted the mission to hunt down the White Base because he wanted to improve the lot of the men under him, and destroying the White Base would grant them promotions (i.e. not because of any desire for vengeance due to Garma's death), Char is initially fighting so he can advance in rank to be closer to the Zabis to assassinate them and then so he can defeat the Gundam once he feels constant loses to it have wounded his pride and so on. The same is true of the few people we see in Char's Counterattack. Gyunei joined Neo Zeon because he felt Char was the kind of person who could destroy a colony in anger and wanted to help prevent them and Quess is fighting because of unresolved daddy issues; even Nanai seems to mostly be on board due to her personal feelings for Char and not for a cause. Things are a little murkier in ZZ, because characters like Chara, Mashymre etc. seem to have some actual national pride in Axis and personal belief in their cause, as well as a devotion to Haman personally but much of ZZ (and Zeta) was written by the same guy who wrote episode 5 and 6 of Stardust Memories, Akinori Endo, and without the other principal writer, Yumiko Suzuki to ameliorate his worst tendencies perhaps.
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Darth Walrus posted:Honestly, the Hildolfr and its legacy don't seem like they'd be too out of place in Tomino's take on Zeon. He regularly showed sympathy for the dignity and humanity of average-Joe soldiers stuck fighting a losing war their superiors had started for stupid reasons - see, for example, Time, Be Still - and let them pull off badass stunts and heroic last stands against the good guys. It's the officers responsible for broader strategy who he tended to reserve the much greater share of his venom for. That and it's clearly an extrapolation of Shinto beliefs regarding objects having a sort of soul
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my thoughts re code fairies: I could fix them
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ManSedan posted:Why is it called IGLOO anyway? Because it's about weapon designs that were left out in the cold.
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I still think igloo can be fun in the "Wow, Cool Robot" sense because it's fun to watch a tank blow dudes up or watch a guy in a lovely robot go so fast he explodes. But yeah the actual narrative and story elements of the whole thing kind of blow.
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According to dictionary.com... Igloo. Military. a dome-shaped building for the storage of rockets or other munitions. I take it the idea is the metaphorical MS Igloo is the warehouse of mobile weapon rejects.
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Nuebot posted:I still think igloo can be fun in the "Wow, Cool Robot" sense because it's fun to watch a tank blow dudes up or watch a guy in a lovely robot go so fast he explodes. But yeah the actual narrative and story elements of the whole thing kind of blow.
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Like obviously yeah, IGLOO is good for the WOW COOL ROBOT stuff, but they'd have been better off making something like the Ultraman ULTRAFIGHT stuff- just standalone videos of poo poo fighting.
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Fivemarks posted:Like obviously yeah, IGLOO is good for the WOW COOL ROBOT stuff, but they'd have been better off making something like the Ultraman ULTRAFIGHT stuff- just standalone videos of poo poo fighting. They did, it was called Gundam Evolve.
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