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Nodelphi
Jan 30, 2004

We are all quite capable of believing in anything as long as it's improbable.

Ham Wrangler
Jay’s here to gently caress banks and print money… and he’s all out of money.

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coelomate
Oct 21, 2020


Stereotype posted:

cool so the fed explicitly knew that if they kept raising a number this specific bank would fail, but then they did it anyway and didn't warn anyone

everyone knew that. The bank disclosed its asset mix quarterly! The asset mix itself was "fine" until there was a bank run, so while they were in a position where a bank run would kill them, it took idiot VCs triggering the bank run to actually kill them.

The fed didn't stop raising rates because, unironically, that's the bank's idiot management problem and not the fed's problem. The fed knows raising rates will cause many business to struggle, and some to fail - including the banks they supervise.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

maybe SVB should have shown some personal responsibility and not left itself open to higher interest rate risk

coelomate
Oct 21, 2020


ArmZ posted:

maybe SVB should have shown some personal responsibility and not left itself open to higher interest rate risk

I mean, close to literally true. The other banks hedged their risk or didn't pile on as much :v:

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
it's amazing to me that people will freak out over activist judges or un-elected people doing much of anything but no one seems to care about Jerome

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


RealityWarCriminal posted:

it's amazing to me that people will freak out over activist judges or un-elected people doing much of anything but no one seems to care about Jerome

Yeah its almost like the punitive and ultimately deadly power of economic control is obfuscated politically and culturally or something

It's got to be real easy to wage class war when your offensive strikes are regarded as immutable forces of nature akin to the weather and not deliberately engineered sabotage

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:


the economy bad lever has actually been pulled and no one cares

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

this would be p funny but I'm not getting my hopes up

https://twitter.com/aftxcreditor/status/1652430145305604097

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

coelomate posted:

I mean, close to literally true. The other banks hedged their risk or didn't pile on as much :v:

i think the specific way they loaded all their investments into long term treasuries they managed to fit into a category which meant that they didn’t require the oversight they would normally have had with the risk profile they created

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Stereotype posted:

cool so the fed explicitly knew that if they kept raising a number this specific bank would fail, but then they did it anyway and didn't warn anyone

doesn't the bank have people there that realize how exposed their position is?

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

FizFashizzle posted:

doesn't the bank have people there that realize how exposed their position is?

its a very hard thing when salaries depend on doing the opposite

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
To be fair, arguing that the Fed should have paused because of known risks is a bit like saying that you shouldn't remove life support because the patient is brain dead and will never breathe on their own again. You either have to take widespread regulatory action to force banks out of these positions or admit that the economy can never again survive without a low rate environment.

"The Fed actually cannot control interest rates because some banks are dumb" is not a statement of confidence in the US economy.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
The wise shepherd knows that sometimes you just want to have mutton for dinner.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

FizFashizzle posted:

doesn't the bank have people there that realize how exposed their position is?

That makes number not go up though.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

The economy is humming and there is a boom without end

caelxii
Jun 20, 2003

FizFashizzle posted:

doesn't the bank have people there that realize how exposed their position is?

Lol I was literally fired from my last job for pointing out the obvious and refusing to ‘correct’ myself.

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

The Fed: "Not my problem - blame the FDIC!"

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Zodium posted:

can you elaborate a bit on what problems niches not going away after a mass extinction poses for this view? what is an example of the solution sets that arise from it you mean? I understand what you're saying, but I think I don't grasp your meaning.

assumption: that the complex system of an ecosystem which changes by evolution is analogous to the complex system of human economy and that it over time also changes by evolution.

assumption 2: that a mass extinction in an ecosystem is functioning in an equivalent way to a violent revolution in a state or economy in terms of what happens to the system.

if niches in ecosystems eventually reappear after extinction events, then economic niches would eventually reappear after revolutionary events, filled by different species (societal groups/individuals), but doing the same things to survive after an interregnum

The specializations you are posting about are niches. Classes are categories of economic niches.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




and I’m probably right zodium looking at the long term historical outcomes of both bourgeoisie and socialist revolutions.

it means the problem of controls and stability, is always the problem, and it is not erased by revolution.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/CGasparino/status/1652681578869301251

cool av
Mar 2, 2013

Nodelphi posted:

Jay’s here to gently caress banks and print money… and he’s all out of money.

oh, he better print some then

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


PNC Bank is acquiring ill-fated itself? :thunk: (Yes, I know it's First Republic, just kind of funny)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/DeekeTweak/status/1652167292640276480?t=7-9lH1aBgUyw_-tD0Dx1dQ&s=19

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Horseshoe theory posted:

PNC Bank is acquiring ill-fated itself? :thunk: (Yes, I know it's First Republic, just kind of funny)

It’s that one weird trick banks use to reset their own books.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
no one wants to game any more

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Horseshoe theory posted:

PNC Bank is acquiring ill-fated itself? :thunk: (Yes, I know it's First Republic, just kind of funny)

Depends on if the FDIC takes the toxic FRB assets or if PNC has to take the liabilities.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!




$70 is just like the bare bones game. If you want the full experience you need to drop like $120 on the super deluxe edition that contains the actual contents of the game

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006





It’s almost like Valve figured out that many massive discounts throughout the year on digital goods drive a huge increase in sales numbers. Maybe Sony should look into that.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I am not at all surprised that screaming about the inflation-adjusted cost of video games is not sufficient to overcome people's gut reaction that $70 is too much loving money to spend on a single video game.

Woke Mind Virus
Aug 22, 2005


Pittsburgh

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004


Pittsburgh will grow stronger

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Orvin posted:

It’s almost like Valve figured out that many massive discounts throughout the year on digital goods drive a huge increase in sales numbers. Maybe Sony should look into that.

I randomly played Odyssey because it was on gamepass and they were still hawking full price skins and their weird online currency system.

A.) this game is five years old
B.) this isn’t dota
C.) the skills are so loving broken by the end I could have been holding a stick and jug of wine and murdered Medusa

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004


thread title

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe

ill fated PNC Bank, you heard it here first folks

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Video games have been 60 dollars forever it's almost nostalgic.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

congrats on buying a dead lovely bank pisseburgh

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Like the price tag is so familiar it's part of the culture.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Paradoxish posted:

I am not at all surprised that screaming about the inflation-adjusted cost of video games is not sufficient to overcome people's gut reaction that $70 is too much loving money to spend on a single video game.

Mostly because the inflation doesn't hit our loving salaries at all.

I haven't a doubt that Sony executives are making 20% more than when 60 bucks hit, but most of us aren't

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

FizFashizzle posted:

I randomly played Odyssey because it was on gamepass and they were still hawking full price skins and their weird online currency system.

A.) this game is five years old
B.) this isn’t dota
C.) the skills are so loving broken by the end I could have been holding a stick and jug of wine and murdered Medusa

I most checked out from the series a long time ago but I honestly enjoyed the combat mechanics of the first game. They were a little clunky but the fact that you had to constantly juggle actions between opponents and there weren’t that many skills or items allowed you just to concentrate on the action at hand.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Assassin's Creed Origins did Caesar dirty

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