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I don't think I would have ever voted for the Labor party but before this bullshit I wasn't actively hoping the party would collapse at the next election. Terminal centrist boomer landlord brain.
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Jim Chalmers posted:The third one is that no government can satisfy all of the calls for more spending in the budget even from people and from groups whose views we welcome and respect. YOU KNOW JIM, I HAVE A loving IDEA WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RUSTLE UP A LITTLE MORE CASH.
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# ? May 2, 2023 07:04 |
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hooman posted:YOU KNOW JIM, I HAVE A loving IDEA WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO RUSTLE UP A LITTLE MORE CASH. is the answer ensuring that student debt is repaid and claiming back welfare overpayments? that's the answer isn't it and reducing spending on the ndis spending too much on that ndis i hear
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# ? May 2, 2023 07:45 |
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a lot of anger directed toward the government itt
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Animal Friend posted:a lot of anger directed toward the government itt This is what happens when you have hopes that are not met.
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i would simply elect a better one, not waste time with negativity
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GoldStandardConure posted:is the answer ensuring that student debt is repaid Funnily enough the cost of raising the rate over 10 years is almost exactly the same as the amount of outstanding HECS debt (75 and 74 billion respectively. This is just an interesting observation, I'm not suggesting it's either possible or desirable to claw back all outstanding student debt over that timeframe.)
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# ? May 2, 2023 08:03 |
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G-Spot Run posted:i would never have predicted labor would set their next under 30 campaign strategy to 'gently caress you, vote green' but here we are The thing is, this is probably the politically smart instinct. Anyone switching their vote away from Labor over this is not going to the Liberals, so there's ultimately nothing lost as long as the preferences flow correctly. Over 55s are more likely to switch, so you keep them happy with this move. Your younger base might never be satisfied, but they will always ultimately be in your corner, barring some conversion to right-wing politics. The decision itself is gutless and pathetic, but if I'm being honest, could we have expected anything else? They only need to be slightly better than the Liberals, that's been the policy of every centre-left party in the last thirty years. I know that's defeatist, but I just can't expect Labor to do much. Here's hoping they start bleeding more support to the Greens, I suppose.
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# ? May 2, 2023 10:46 |
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Interest rates going up because reserve bank says inflation is too high and housing prices are still rising too much. Very smart government: let's give rich people a bunch more disposable income!
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# ? May 2, 2023 10:52 |
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lmao centre left people lol about the grn primary vote but the fact is the nats have far less and it's all about voter concentration. labor gonna keep shedding inner city seats to grn just like lib have lost to teal and shrugging 'oh well but at least we have ~ * ~ preference flows ~ * ~ ' like that loving means anything when you lose incumbency i for one welcome our new activist overlords
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# ? May 2, 2023 11:02 |
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Animal Friend posted:i would simply elect a better one, not waste time with negativity
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# ? May 2, 2023 11:31 |
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Animal Friend posted:i would simply elect a better one, not waste time with negativity please stop taking jobs from jbp when the welfare rate is at an all time low its inhumane
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# ? May 2, 2023 11:31 |
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Cartoon posted:Pfft! How about trying to drop out of the right vagina for once, dunce. right vagina, wrong grid
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# ? May 2, 2023 11:36 |
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bottleshop got a perfect score in the nominations for the qha awards for 2023. heres hoping we can take the prize from the place owned by the same mob that I buy roast beef rolls at my lawn mowing job in 2022
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# ? May 2, 2023 12:43 |
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Can we just start spitting on Labor politicians
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# ? May 2, 2023 13:38 |
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A Sydney DJ says he was manhandled by security guards and thrown out of a pub in the city’s south after his set because he was wearing a hat, describing it as an interaction that would not happen anywhere else in the world.
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# ? May 2, 2023 14:10 |
Sierra Madre posted:The thing is, this is probably the politically smart instinct. Anyone switching their vote away from Labor over this is not going to the Liberals, so there's ultimately nothing lost as long as the preferences flow correctly. Over 55s are more likely to switch, so you keep them happy with this move. Your younger base might never be satisfied, but they will always ultimately be in your corner, barring some conversion to right-wing politics. It's politically smart till enough people vote greens and they start getting elected.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:A Sydney DJ says he was manhandled by security guards and thrown out of a pub in the city’s south after his set because he was wearing a hat, describing it as an interaction that would not happen anywhere else in the world. There's got to be more to the story to that?
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NPR Journalizard posted:It's politically smart till enough people vote greens and they start getting elected. It took one election for the rich people's climate club to get more reps seats than the greens have achieved in thirty years. If a teal/climate200 senate ticket rolls out next election they'll pulverise the greens' senate numbers.
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# ? May 2, 2023 14:32 |
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Except they won't, because the entire premise of the Teals/Climate200 was "these Liberals are bad, but Labor want to redistribute the wealth that we've worked so hard to strip-mine back to the working class, and that's just not on and we won't ever vote for them". Except they're going to spend this entire term of government proving otherwise, while offering up the same "action on climate change as long as it doesn't affect my shares" virtue signalling measures the Teals wanted. They may still manage to gently caress it up, and the blue ribbon voters may still refuse to abandon their decades-long campaign against the practically communist Labor party - but even chance that business and big money will back them in, to push the greens/teals out. Also if history counts for anything, the teal movement will collapse now the libs are electorally unviable, and the ALP are clearly not behaving like a radical leftist mob hell bent on taxing the rich to give free solar panels to arts students.
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JBP posted:It took one election for the rich people's climate club to get more reps seats than the greens have achieved in thirty years. If a teal/climate200 senate ticket rolls out next election they'll pulverise the greens' senate numbers. Lol this is the classic labor masturbation fantasy we were looking for,
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Recoome posted:Lol this is the classic labor masturbation fantasy we were looking for, Why is this a fantasy for Labor? The Teals and climate 200 are the direct competitor to the greens. It seems like hubris to just disregard them taking 7 seats in one election when the greens haven't achieved the same, despite being in politics since the early 90s.
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JBP posted:Why is this a fantasy for Labor? The Teals and climate 200 are the direct competitor to the greens. It seems like hubris to just disregard them taking 7 seats in one election when the greens haven't achieved the same, despite being in politics since the early 90s.
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? I don't think libs are coming back. The greens will probs get 4 more reps next election, but I wonder if climate 200 will run a senate ticket or abandon the "independent" teal label since they over performed last time. I think teals can get 2-3 more in the reps additionally to the greens, so it will be interesting to see which group Labor team with on each but of legislation. You'd expect teals, but Pocock is a massive pain in the arse for them and loves "small business" lobbies. If the teals get senate seats the greens might be ignorable on some leg.
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Charlz Guybon posted:There's got to be more to the story to that? The hat said "gently caress security", probably a poor choice
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Charlz Guybon posted:There's got to be more to the story to that? quote:A Sydney DJ
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# ? May 3, 2023 01:14 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Can we just start spitting on Labor politicians Who stopped?
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# ? May 3, 2023 02:03 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Can we just start spitting on Labor politicians All my local and federal members share one office, so I could probably go down there and spit on all 3 at the same time (we're on a border of two electorates)
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# ? May 3, 2023 04:58 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Can we just start spitting on Labor politicians When a Labor government implements policy targeting at risk populations I don't like.
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ASIC v Danny Bro posted:When a Labor government implements policy targeting at risk populations I don't like.
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I think the greens should rebrand.
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# ? May 4, 2023 04:56 |
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hambeet posted:I think the greens should rebrand. They should. e: to the 'you'd vote for us on policy if you saw them without knowing who said it' party.
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hambeet posted:I think the greens should rebrand. As if whatever name they chose wouldn't be equally if not more so dragged through the mud by our dogshit press. Hell, people think the LNP are good economic managers in spite of *waves hands*.
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# ? May 4, 2023 07:14 |
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Apparently the ALP just announced "the first budget surplus in 15 years", so look forward to the media churning out editorials about how "budget surpluses are bad, actually" (they are, but that's not the point)
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# ? May 4, 2023 08:00 |
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Don Dongington posted:Apparently the ALP just announced "the first budget surplus in 15 years", so look forward to the media churning out editorials about how "budget surpluses are bad, actually" (they are, but that's not the point) It's Wafer Thin!.1 Billion dollars does not count apparently. Or about 5000 houses that we need and will not get.
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Don Dongington posted:Apparently the ALP just announced "the first budget surplus in 15 years", so look forward to the media churning out editorials about how "budget surpluses are bad, actually" (they are, but that's not the point) I hope to loving god this isn't true (announcing a budget surplus). I. loving. Hope. Heart what do you say...?
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# ? May 4, 2023 08:43 |
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Comstar posted:It's Wafer Thin!.1 Billion dollars does not count apparently. I don't think it is wafer thin as much as it is well within measurement error (!0.16% of the budget, immaterial from a budgeting point of view). Also, you ain't supplying 5k houses for a billion haha Electric Wrigglies fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 4, 2023 |
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Oh my god the Vic lnp are full of terrorists.
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Eediot Jedi posted:Oh my god the Vic lnp are full of terrorists. digging out the old fridge magnet to report hambeet
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Former Opposition Leader Matthew Guy has attacked "terrorists" he says are undermining his successor, John Pesutto.
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