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ninjewtsu posted:What does the g in """reconguista in g""" stand for? 'Great series'
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No master Grade.
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May 2, 2023 17:16
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jackhunter64 posted:'Great series'
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May 2, 2023 18:45
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ninjewtsu posted:What does the g in """reconguista in g""" stand for? Garbage
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May 2, 2023 19:32
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Reconguista in Good, Actually
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May 2, 2023 19:34
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Darth Walrus posted:Ah, but they can still sell both versions. Just consider the TV series and Endless Waltz versions of the Wing designs. I'm not sure that consideration works as well as you think it does, because Endless Waltz is more popular as a Gunpla mine than the base TV show where the same unit exists in both versions. And that succeeded when it came out only a year or so after the original show, which was only a moderate success compared to older UC stuff going off sales charts; what if it failed 40 years after, when Banrise push the designs to try and generate sales, undercutting good will for the original designs in the process. Designs that are still beloved after 40 years, but could potentially be tainted by association with a show or updated designs that don't work for people? Especially when, let's not pretend otherwise, Bandai can just sell updated designs perfectly well without a new show to advertise them. They've been reengineering and doing minor design work on the RX-78-2, Zaku II, Zeong and a couple of other designs throughout the decades aa is, and several manga like The Origin and Thunderbolt include redesigns while establishing themselves as their own identity out the gate, rather than just retreading the original show. They've even sold more radical redesigns of the RX-78-2 with occasional specials like the G40 short. They do not need a new show, and there's really no reason to bother with one when it probably wouldn't increase sales of the original show's Gunpla much, but may not shift its own Gunpla as well as a brand new product line like IBO or G-Witch. So why bother?
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May 2, 2023 19:49
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The success of GW/EW kits is a testament to how fully sick the designs are and I don’t think the show matters as much. How many non-EW Zeros do they really sell?
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May 2, 2023 20:14
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Wing kits are still the ones I find the most often at Target
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May 2, 2023 20:15
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Dynamite Dog posted:The success of GW/EW kits is a testament to how fully sick the designs are and I don’t think the show matters as much. The non-EW Zero is the better one
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May 2, 2023 20:37
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tsob posted:I'm not sure that consideration works as well as you think it does, because Endless Waltz is more popular as a Gunpla mine than the base TV show where the same unit exists in both versions. And that succeeded when it came out only a year or so after the original show, which was only a moderate success compared to older UC stuff going off sales charts; what if it failed 40 years after, when Banrise push the designs to try and generate sales, undercutting good will for the original designs in the process. Designs that are still beloved after 40 years, but could potentially be tainted by association with a show or updated designs that don't work for people? You need new material in order to bring in younger generations and hold the franchise in the public consciousness. Believing only in direct correlations between media and kit sales, and basing your decisions entirely off that kind of thinking is how you end up cratering your company five - ten years out.
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May 2, 2023 20:45
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I think the logic of "they'll do that when the original suits' gunpla sales start falling off" is probably correct. They'll reinvigorate interest in the original series when the sales tell them they need that interest reinvigorated.
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May 2, 2023 20:50
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Gaius Marius posted:You need new material in order to bring in younger generations and hold the franchise in the public consciousness. Believing only in direct correlations between media and kit sales, and basing your decisions entirely off that kind of thinking is how you end up cratering your company five - ten years out. I would say that remaking the original show is not really "new" material, and besides the various AU shows are the new and have been sustaining the franchise for literal decades now alongside the occasional UC thing in the form of an OVA or movie. The original series has also already sustained itself through multiple generations via cultural osmosis in various forms and that's unlikely to dry up soon, so I don't even think there's a good argument there for requiring a remake just to keep up sales of the original series. Never mind that Banrise have already signaled they're content to allow that to die when they let Unicorn, which was a massive sales hit for home media and gunpla, to actually confirm Amuro and Char's death. If UC has a future it's in Unicorn, not in remaking the original show. tsob fucked around with this message at 21:42 on May 2, 2023 |
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May 2, 2023 21:39
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when will disney remake the original star wars trilogy
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May 2, 2023 22:30
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ninjewtsu posted:when will disney remake the original star wars trilogy Somehow Star Wars returned.
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May 2, 2023 22:34
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ninjewtsu posted:when will disney remake the original star wars trilogy They absolutely will at some point, because they spent billions of dollars on the franchise and Disney is infamous for milking their popular IPs until the cow keels over dead.
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May 3, 2023 01:20
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They spent relatively little on star wars, in the scope of acquisitons.
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May 3, 2023 01:27
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Disney will make a gorgeously hand animated remake of Star Wars as a sop to all the people going “why live action remake???” Of some of the best animated films of all times. lol
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May 3, 2023 01:29
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DamnGlitch posted:Disney will make a gorgeously hand animated remake of Star Wars as a sop to all the people going “why live action remake???” Of some of the best animated films of all times. We don't really need them to go to that effort when there's the Visions project.
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May 3, 2023 01:40
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tsob posted:I would say that remaking the original show is not really "new" material, and besides the various AU shows are the new and have been sustaining the franchise for literal decades now alongside the occasional UC thing in the form of an OVA or movie. The original series has also already sustained itself through multiple generations via cultural osmosis in various forms and that's unlikely to dry up soon, so I don't even think there's a good argument there for requiring a remake just to keep up sales of the original series. Never mind that Banrise have already signaled they're content to allow that to die when they let Unicorn, which was a massive sales hit for home media and gunpla, to actually confirm Amuro and Char's death. If UC has a future it's in Unicorn, not in remaking the original show. Cultural osmosis has it's limits especially with that generation about to start pushing up daisies. From a business perspective it behooves Sunrise to make sure that the Post Zoomer generation is firmly rooted in the firmament of Gundam; this to ensure that all the other UC ecosystem remains profitable and ripe for exploitation. Consider that if Char and Amuro stop being bywords in the animeical lexicon the reduction of cultural cachet will deprive any projects using the reflections or interpretations of those characters of meaning. People love finding connections between disparate events and characters, the nexus it creates entrenches the ideas of the show in the viewers mind and the act of treasure hunting for them can be the cause of as much pleasure in the audience as the music or story. Part of the ascendancy of gundam to the paramount position of mecha media is the deep well of references and connections the viewer can identify and discuss. Since all these connections ultimately derive from the MSG well there is a will to weld these tropes and concepts into the will of audience that is coming and is to come. Partially this is done peripheral productions pertaining to the psuedo canon. e.g. Doan and Origin, but it might be very soon that the process moves centerwards to finally desecrate it's own birth chamber to ensure the hollow of it's future success. To be clear, I hate this. Probably the most of all in this thread. It is utterly intellectually bankrupt, morally disgusting, and a denigration of all that could be considered artistic in this money driven mecha business. One would hope that the suits have enough spine to stand up and reject the destruction of art, but I think we're all quite aware of the jellyfishical nature of the modern c suite dweller.
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DamnGlitch posted:Disney will make a gorgeously hand animated remake of Star Wars as a sop to all the people going “why live action remake???” Of some of the best animated films of all times. Disney, in almost 100 years has made two good films, zero great films. Bakshi made what six or seven great Films in 20-30 years. I've never seen a company so substitant on misplaced nostalgia as Disney. Only Spielberg rivals them in the gulf of quality between their actual work and the esteem they're held in by the sycophantic media.
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May 3, 2023 02:02
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Just animate all of Origin the manga rules
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May 3, 2023 02:08
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turning the takes up from hot to extra spicy
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May 3, 2023 02:20
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Gaius Marius posted:Partially this is done peripheral productions pertaining to the psuedo canon. e.g. Doan and Origin, but it might be very soon that the process moves centerwards to finally desecrate it's own birth chamber to ensure the hollow of it's future success. Well okay then.
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May 3, 2023 02:27
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Gaius Marius posted:Disney, in almost 100 years has made two good films, zero great films. Bakshi made what six or seven great Films in 20-30 years. I've never seen a company so substitant on misplaced nostalgia as Disney. Only Spielberg rivals them in the gulf of quality between their actual work and the esteem they're held in by the sycophantic media. This is such a bad post, like yeah Disney has made plenty of bad films but to claim they've only made two good films is such a snobby opinion that it would be funny if it weren't also a really stupid one ninjewtsu posted:turning the takes up from hot to extra spicy It's Da Bomb of hot takes
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I hate musicals Atlantis and Treasure Planet are the 2 good films btw. Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 02:35 on May 3, 2023 |
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May 3, 2023 02:32
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drrockso20 posted:This is such a bad post I don't know if I hate that the 2 good Disney films are not named or if I like the sense of mystery EDIT: lmao good timing
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May 3, 2023 02:36
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Actually a straight remake and not even going with Origin’s changes makes the insane person mad so do that
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May 3, 2023 02:44
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The idea of a 0079 remake to bring new fans just feels contradictory to me, but maybe I'm stuck too far in the UC/AU divide.
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May 3, 2023 03:23
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Why not do Metal Armor Dragonar: The Origin?
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tsob posted:If UC has a future it's in Unicorn, not in remaking the original show. I feel like the double combo of Covid and current day production struggles slowing things to a crawl have made people forget that they already have a roadmap for the future of the UC, and it's forwards not backwards. "the next hundred years of the Universal Century after Char's Counterattack" and to date they're gotten to year 12.
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May 3, 2023 03:42
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ninjewtsu posted:I don't know if I hate that the 2 good Disney films are not named or if I like the sense of mystery I'm more interested in the six or seven good Bakshi films because the vast majority of his stuff is loving trash lmao
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May 3, 2023 03:42
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Good soup! posted:I'm more interested in the six or seven good Bakshi films because the vast majority of his stuff is loving trash lmao He also... barely has more than that in total. He has, like, 10 films? A number of his films are IMPORTANT, but not much in the way of GOOD. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 03:50 on May 3, 2023 |
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May 3, 2023 03:47
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Good soup! posted:I'm more interested in the six or seven good Bakshi films because the vast majority of his stuff is loving trash lmao The Streak from Fritz to Wizards is an animation hot streak matched only by Satoshi Kon. His Lord of the Rings is easily a match for that one australian guy who did the other movies, I forgot his name. Anyways Cool World in retrospect is easy to see as one of the most prescient films of the nineties.
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Gaius Marius posted:Disney, in almost 100 years has made two good films, zero great films. Bakshi made what six or seven great Films in 20-30 years. I've never seen a company so substitant on misplaced nostalgia as Disney. Only Spielberg rivals them in the gulf of quality between their actual work and the esteem they're held in by the sycophantic media. What the hell is this poo poo, Spielberg whips scrote. Jaws, Jurassic Park, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, Munich, all incredible movies. Yes, he’s a little schmaltzy, but that he’s so unashamed about it, and it’s often thrown in with harrowing, terrifying situations. Spielberg tha god. To actually relate it to the topic at hand, Spielberg was the first director to include the Grandpa in a live action movie! (In the kinda crummy Ready Player One)
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May 3, 2023 03:59
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You guys take bait way too easily from an old person
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X-Ray Pecs posted:What the hell is this poo poo, Spielberg whips scrote. I agree with the spirit of your post but am firmly against this phrase. It sounds like a rejected line from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
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X-Ray Pecs posted:What the hell is this poo poo, Spielberg whips scrote. Jaws, Jurassic Park, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, Munich, all incredible movies. Yes, he’s a little schmaltzy, but that he’s so unashamed about it, and it’s often thrown in with harrowing, terrifying situations. Spielberg tha god. Spiel is technically proficient, but is let down by his inability to not coat everything with his Spielish patina of schmaltzy poo poo. He's a director whose unfortunate early success has disabused him of the notion that he needs any manner of correction to his filmic styling. So you end up with absolute trash like the Janitor stopping the 747 with his mop in Terminal or the Entirety of Close Encounters, a Film I was forced to watch in school and loathed in it's entirety excepting the brief use of Truffaut. He can never get out of his own way and it drains any real ethos or pathos out of the films. He's always creating the simulacrum of emotion rather than the true emotion, or perhaps a simulacrum of a simulacrum vs. a better films single order remove. Secondly he just isn't a good director of actors. I went and saw Fabelmens after pretty recently viewing Blue Valentine and Batman and the difference in Michelle Willams and Dano's performances was striking. Willams felt like an absolute caricature of a human being, you'd be hard pressed to find a single soul who thought her portrayal felt genuine in the way her Blue Valentine role did. And Dano's felt like he was sleepwalking after showing how dramatic, boisterous, and subtley seething he could be in Batman. Another way is to look at three roughly contemerpanous films. Eyes Wide Shut, Magnolia, and Minority Report All have Cruise really trying to Act rather than relying on his own charisma like in the newer MI films. Kubrick of course puts him through the wringer and juices every ounce of star juice out of him to get that raw emasculated and confused portrait of a man who thought he was king poo poo and just realized he ain't poo poo. PTA harness's every undercurrent of self loathing and abandonment in Cruise that created his famous drive and puts it all on screen, creating what is easily imo the best use of Cruise in Film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8_fxj5ZTA I mean look at this, this is transcendent. Spiel got a man who showed up and read lines in Minority and War Worlds. Thirdly he suffers from what I call the problem of equivalents. He's done a lot of films in a lot of genre's, but there's always a better, more interesting, less studio, more challenging, deeper, more introspective, more insightful version of all of those films. Yeah you can watch Catch me if you Can(his best film) but you can also watch The Talented Mr.Ripley, My American Friend, or Purple Noon. Saving Private Ryan? The Longest Day is right there. Lincoln? Young Mr.Lincoln by John Ford. Fabelmans?400 Blows, Murmurs of the Heart or Licorice Pizza. If someone came up to me and said "Hey you got any other movies like La Notte, There will be Blood, or The Double life of Veronique" I would answer in the negative, the distinctions I could draw parallels to those films in other movies would not serve to match to the whole of the actual film. Spielberg's films cannot say this excepting perhaps Jaws and Jurassic, but that's almost entirely because how absolutely mishandled those own movies sequels were to the point of destroying a genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbanWHx5AFQ He's so drat good in Magnolia Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 04:55 on May 3, 2023 |
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May 3, 2023 04:51
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i would watch a steven spielberg directed gundam movie
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to be clear i want a 0079 remake for pure selfish reasons gently caress the fans
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Gaius Marius posted:The Streak from Fritz to Wizards is an animation hot streak matched only by Satoshi Kon. you leaned in too hard with this line lol
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