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In 2005 I was a civilian contractor working for the United States Department of Defense. I can safely state with great confidence that you do not gently caress with the US Military unless you have no desire to continue existing.
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# ? May 15, 2023 17:40 |
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# ? May 30, 2024 06:44 |
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Lukashenko looked disgusting--nipples protruding--in his little uniform in the woods. Very very disrespectful.
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# ? May 15, 2023 17:41 |
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I wonder, and to be clear I'm not saying it is, but I wonder if he does have any doubles. That seems pretty much a must-have fashion accessory for your absolute dictator.
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# ? May 15, 2023 17:46 |
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Reminds me of the show Zelensky accidentally used to become president. His staff are walking his character through diplomatic niceties and he learns to stand and how to greet doubles of Obama, Merkel, and other leaders. Then they have Lukashenka’s double come in and he stands and they basically say: “No, you don’t stand. It is Lukashenka.” Xenocides fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 15, 2023 |
# ? May 15, 2023 17:50 |
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tango alpha delta posted:In 2005 I was a civilian contractor working for the United States Department of Defense. I can safely state with great confidence that you do not gently caress with the US Military unless you have no desire to continue existing. This kinda confirms what I always suspected: that the US is far and away the most powerful country militarily on the planet, and China is probably a far second. Shame about the sheer dedication to militarism and weapons to make everyone dead, and not like, Healthcare or human rights, or UBI, but I guess. I hate it here
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# ? May 15, 2023 18:12 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:People genuinely don't understand how powerful the US military really is after it's reformations in the 80's. There have been a lot of military stomps throughout history but it always came with heavy losses on both sides. The 1990 Gulf War was two of the largest militaries in the world fighting one another. Even Germany's incredibly successful blitzkrieg of France resulted in 40,000 casualties on their side. Tbf, NO ONE who had any knowledge of geo-politics expected this utter dumpsterfire. The Russian military being in this shambling state shocked the world. I expected very much a very well armed insurgency/ opposition government in Lyviv, not "the Russian military traffic jams itself surrounding Kyiv for loving miles, gets picked off while the VDV parachutes into anti aircraft/ artillery fire/ OMON police are the only Russian forces to successfully enter Kyiv. This is a bad loving joke. The greatest Russian State secret is that their military couldn't invade a Polish Walmart, let alone attack NATO and even gain ground. TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 15, 2023 |
# ? May 15, 2023 18:16 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Tbf, NO ONE who had any knowledge of geo-politics expected this utter dumpsterfire. Thr Russian military being in this shambling state shocked the world. I expected very much a very well armed insurgency/ opposition government in Lyviv, not "the Russian military traffic jams itself surrounding Kyiv for loving miles, gets picked off while the VDV parachutes into anti aircraft/ artillery fire/ OMON police are the only Russian forces to successfully enter Kyiv. The OMON police turn towards a crowd holding Aks and thinks "oh yes they're rising up against the kyivan government let's go greet them"
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# ? May 15, 2023 18:19 |
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This has been my understanding of events over the past 70 or so years, if memory serves: The US: We must be able to fight a war in 2 theaters! We must not allow the mistakes of WWII to happen again! We will maintain an active fighting force that is well trained and equipped to counter the Russian AND Chinese threat! *does exactly that because of oversight committees and watch dog groups* China: Holy gently caress! Holy poo poo! They really mean it! gently caress! gently caress! gently caress! *builds something like a fighting force that seems capable of maybe taking Taiwan but who knows* Russia: Hey, our nukes from the Soviet times works still, nyet? Well then, we will buy yachts and dachas for everyone, and hope the US is still afraid of those nukes! *grifts and corruption happen on an epic scale the likes of which have never before seen in human history* Bottom line: the US, Russia and China have been holding each other's population centers hostage with nukes, conventional war poo poo is for the GDP of those 3 Nations, and their customers are everyone else not in the nuclear club. Ukraine is saying, "gently caress you, gently caress your nukes, get the gently caress out of Ukraine!" And that makes them pretty loving alright in my book.
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# ? May 15, 2023 18:36 |
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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:
It's this^ This is not a dick wagging competition. This is a war for sovereignty and independence.
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# ? May 15, 2023 18:38 |
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TulliusCicero posted:This kinda confirms what I always suspected: that the US is far and away the most powerful country militarily on the planet, and China is probably a far second. I realize that you're not saying this, and I don't mean to derail into uspol, but in the interests of the joke not becoming perceived as true: universal healthcare would be less expensive than what we are doing now and we could totally do both. it's discouraging that it hasn't become our priority in such a way it's made real (for all the times it's been attempted), but the military budget isn't why we don't get to visit the doctor. TulliusCicero posted:It's this^ and while we're sort of on the subject of budgets I'm somewhat worried about post-war reconstruction even if Ukraine decisively restores its borders. hopefully we can defeat austerity types saying "but we've already given so much military aid [a significant fraction in mothballed equipment we'd have had to pay to destroy soon anyway], now I'm supposed to pay for their highways???" to give Ukraine a proper leg up into EU accession.
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# ? May 15, 2023 18:55 |
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TulliusCicero posted:This kinda confirms what I always suspected: that the US is far and away the most powerful country militarily on the planet, and China is probably a far second. If the US had universal healthcare on the level of other first world countries, we would have far better outcomes, and also save huge, huge amounts of money and be able to afford even more exciting explody things.
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:06 |
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Tunicate posted:that's kind of understating how surreal it is He also played a piano with his cock
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:07 |
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tiaz posted:I realize that you're not saying this, and I don't mean to derail into uspol, but in the interests of the joke not becoming perceived as true: universal healthcare would be less expensive than what we are doing now and we could totally do both. it's discouraging that it hasn't become our priority in such a way it's made real (for all the times it's been attempted), but the military budget isn't why we don't get to visit the doctor. This isn't politics and should be repeated as often as possible so people who don't know this get on UHC train.
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:08 |
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thekeeshman posted:If the US had universal healthcare on the level of other first world countries, we would have far better outcomes, and also save huge, huge amounts of money and be able to afford even more exciting explody things. This is true.
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:09 |
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In todays stupid medieval cosplay news https://twitter.com/Spriter99880/status/1658135863375667201?t=s-GouYjBv20dzjVXwGfmHQ&s=19
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:14 |
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patrol footage https://i.imgur.com/Kd6mJNS.mp4 thekeeshman posted:If the US had universal healthcare on the level of other first world countries, we would have far better outcomes, and also save huge, huge amounts of money and be able to afford even more exciting explody things.
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:26 |
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Ah I thought the carrier group, including the ships surrounding it with Patriot systems on all sides and shitloads of long range missiles to destroy attack platforms, would be enough to keep the thing safe against however many hypersonic missiles Russia has left. Ha, Aegis cruisers have poo poo that's even better than Patriot missiles. But besides that, Russia still has attack subs and those are what I'd be worried about even more than missiles. Judge Schnoopy posted:I totally get the "it's not worth risking the carrier for something so easily winnable" and "NOOOOKS" arguments. Just wanted to know if I was missing something in believing a modern air force and navy would roll this stupid conflict up in weeks if it became necessary. Yes, if the US was providing air support, the Ukrainians would absolutely roll the Russians. Even without the new modern armor, they'd do it with their old soviet and tractor-captured stuff. Air superiority is a force multiplier. It's great for neutralizing armor, which then frees up your own ground forces to work together more closely and concentrate on enemy infantry. A huge problem for the Russians has been, lacking air support themselves, they have to think about armor vs armor fights. That means you can't have your infantry as close to the armor. That's bad because infantry screening is what protects the armor from Javelins. All of this favors the defender a lot. (This is also why the Ukrainian counter-offensives take relatively small chunks of ground, at least until the Russians panic and retreat.)
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:30 |
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mobby_6kl posted:patrol footage Russia messed with the honk and so got the bonk. Ukraine, having experience with the local terrain and fauna, avoided this outcome mobby_6kl posted:It's honestly pretty surprising that the healthcare lobby is somehow overpowering the MIC on this. Please fix your healthcare and build a few more carriers. An F-35 in every garage. I need a government-subsidized rifle in 6.8 Fury because I've seen rabbits around my neighborhood lately and I'm afraid they're going to eat my rhubarb plant and what if they're wearing level 4 trauma plates
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:32 |
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Deptfordx posted:I wonder, and to be clear I'm not saying it is, but I wonder if he does have any doubles. So does a uniform jacket that’s tailored and doesn’t show nip but here we are
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:37 |
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lol his right arm veins are tapped out
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# ? May 15, 2023 19:43 |
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fighter_bomber claims it's not yet well known whether Ukraine or friendly fire downed those 4 aircraft (and afaik he's either a russian aviation officer or in touch with one, so it's pretty interesting if they really don't know at that level) https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1658076488082546690
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# ? May 15, 2023 20:14 |
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denazification going great in Ukraine. In Ukrainian and Russian telegram channels there's a video of a drone grenade that got dropped on a group of three Russians, one of them was wounded, and the other two fuckin robbed him of his weapon and helmet lol. Literally just stealing the dude's poo poo as he was on the ground trying to get them to help him. Then they just hosed off and left their buddy there in the middle of the road. The Ukrainians went and rescued the guy themselves and now he's a POW World's Second Biggest Military folks Edit: also, near the Kremlin right now, there are some unknown drones circling around. Interesting. Edit 2: Abrams in Germany and Ukrainians will begin training on them shortly HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 21:00 on May 15, 2023 |
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:05 |
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https://i.imgur.com/N6SLQ71.mp4 This is the good russian gear Not much fun in Crimea, no.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:14 |
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mobby_6kl posted:https://i.imgur.com/N6SLQ71.mp4 That looks exactly like a wish.com "fuel filter" so lol.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:17 |
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Is that something suppressors do if you shoot enough bullets out of them or did somebody sniper elite the last guy right down the barrel?B-Rock452 posted:That looks exactly like a wish.com "fuel filter" so lol. Or this I guess!
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:18 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:People genuinely don't understand how powerful the US military really is after it's reformations in the 80's. There have been a lot of military stomps throughout history but it always came with heavy losses on both sides. The 1990 Gulf War was two of the largest militaries in the world fighting one another. Even Germany's incredibly successful blitzkrieg of France resulted in 40,000 casualties on their side. Do you have any details about these US military reforms in the 80s? Not doubting this, just curious. How were things before? What did they change?
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:21 |
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Stanley Goodspeed posted:Is that something suppressors do if you shoot enough bullets out of them or did somebody sniper elite the last guy right down the barrel? My guess is it wasn't threaded on correctly and the round just went straight through the "silencer." I don't know much about silencers but I've never seen one fail like that.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:22 |
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Klyith posted:But besides that, Russia still has attack subs and those are what I'd be worried about even more than missiles. Someone claimed that the US has enough subs of their own that they would be able to just shadow all the Russian ones at all times. Now I dunno, but I'm gonna lol at that thought anyway
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:23 |
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Looks like an end-cap strike. Mis-threaded, wrong ammunition for the suppressor, bullet came apart, all sorts of fun things can cause that.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:27 |
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jaete posted:Someone claimed that the US has enough subs of their own that they would be able to just shadow all the Russian ones at all times. Now I dunno, but I'm gonna lol at that thought anyway Dunno about US but UK subs tail the northern fleet subs pretty regularly, well used to before this invasion. Supposedly it is childs play tailing them. Looking at the skill of this invasion, I don't doubt it any more.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:31 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Carriers in the Black Sea aren't going to happen as was mentioned but they wouldn't be necessary when Ukraine borders Poland, Hungary and Slovakia. Here's a preview of how things would go: Can't think why
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:35 |
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jaete posted:Someone claimed that the US has enough subs of their own that they would be able to just shadow all the Russian ones at all times. Now I dunno, but I'm gonna lol at that thought anyway American subs are all nuclear, and the treaty on Black Sea bans nuclear subs. Still, there are many good reasons to not put a carrier in the black sea, and "Russia has a bunch of old, rusty diesel-electric boats in it", isn't really one of them.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:39 |
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jaete posted:Do you have any details about these US military reforms in the 80s? Not doubting this, just curious. How were things before? What did they change? I can't name specific details and programs. But mostly it was many of the weapons and vehicles we see today were completed R&D and construction and the United States finished it's transition to a professional military and stopped using conscripts. Vietnam was the pressure cooker that proved that forcing people into the military for a war they don't want to fight is just going to significantly degrade effectiveness. Meanwhile many if not a majority of your average soldiers will grumble and might personally think that the Iraq war was a mistake (and lets be clear, it was). But they're going to do their job because they signed up for it and the check clears on payday every time. Look no further than the Russians in this war for further proof of that.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:47 |
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https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1658024786642042880 The exact same situation that happened around Kreminna and Svatove last year, except this time the mobiks couldn't hold off Ukraine so good. Within 3 to 5 days, 40% of the hastily mobilized forces that attempted to save Bakhmut's flanks became irrecoverable casualties, primarily KIA. Also of interest is that the Russian MoD have also sent penal battalions out of sheer desperation, when it was noted before that they were mainly being seen near Vuhledar and Avdiivka. Also explains in part why Ukraine needed more men there to continue pushing and called them up.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:53 |
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TulliusCicero posted:This kinda confirms what I always suspected: that the US is far and away the most powerful country militarily on the planet, and China is probably a far second. The PLA of today is very different than the PLA of even 15 years ago. I think it's assuming too much call them a far second. OTOH maybe they'd turn out to be a wet fart like Russia, who knows.
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# ? May 15, 2023 21:57 |
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If anything, seeing what's happening to Russia is going to cause some reevaluation of their abilities and how to improve, if only to avoid a public humiliation if in the future they ever decide to actually make a move militarily. About the only thing I can imagine getting in that way is the chatter that Xi has a rep for being the kind of guy you don't want to give bad news to. Which is another one of those perfect conditions for corruption and incompetence to go unaddressed.
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# ? May 15, 2023 22:01 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I can't name specific details and programs. But mostly it was many of the weapons and vehicles we see today were completed R&D and construction and the United States finished it's transition to a professional military and stopped using conscripts. Vietnam was the pressure cooker that proved that forcing people into the military for a war they don't want to fight is just going to significantly degrade effectiveness. Meanwhile many if not a majority of your average soldiers will grumble and might personally think that the Iraq war was a mistake (and lets be clear, it was). But they're going to do their job because they signed up for it and the check clears on payday every time.
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# ? May 15, 2023 22:06 |
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sebmojo posted:Can't think why Runa posted:If anything, seeing what's happening to Russia is going to cause some reevaluation of their abilities and how to improve, if only to avoid a public humiliation if in the future they ever decide to actually make a move militarily.
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# ? May 15, 2023 22:12 |
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lol i wonder if ukraine popping that Kinzhal with the patriot was the trigger for this: https://www.jpost.com/international/article-743121 US General says Iron Dome ready for deployment in Ukraine posted:The US has an Iron Dome system ready, US Army Space and Missile Defense Commanding General Lt.-Gen. Daniel Karbler told the Senate last week when asked whether Ukraine could use one.
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