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Wheeee posted:harder, wetter, faster, hotter
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May 16, 2023 22:15
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you know what the problem is we are all too negative
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May 16, 2023 22:19
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No problem - I don't want to get off the ride 
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May 16, 2023 22:35
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actionjackson posted:you know what the problem is you're right! there's nothing we can't do with the power of hope, imagination, and optimism! wait sorry no i'm thinking of orks in 40k
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May 16, 2023 23:56
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silicone thrills posted:The threads position is that no one should off themselves. You should actually watch eyes wide shut, it's quite good
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May 17, 2023 00:02
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May 17, 2023 00:03
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skooma512 posted:Also bears mentioning that not every ENSO event maps perfectly on to expectations. I've seen El Nino years go by where Southern CA still was pretty dry, even though the typical effect is the opposite. Not everyone of these will play out the same, and this probably goes doubly true now that climate change has finally come into its own and is materially affecting weather patterns worldwide. I wouldn't be surprised if in hindsight we'll point at one of the preceding 10 years as the tipping point where the old models just stopped applying. The polar vortex going stupid and the wobbly jet stream are going to make things much harder to predict, at least until/if we can settle on a new normal canonical el nino effects map strongly to intense ssta and classic east distribution of anomaly. we have that so far this year. I’ve academically studied el nino for many years and I have personally been horrified by the strength of the incoming el nino. The southern hemi is also playing ball which has been wishy washy in recent events. If nothing changes the possibility of an all time event rivaling 97-98 or even surpassing it are real. but there’s a lot of time for things to change.
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May 17, 2023 00:36
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Taima posted:If nothing changes the possibility of an all time event rivaling 97-98 or even surpassing it are real. but there’s a lot of time for things to change. good. the 97 El Niño in California was so much fun. hope we can bring it back!
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May 17, 2023 00:44
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Harold Fjord posted:
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May 17, 2023 00:55
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I didn’t surf quite yet in 97 but I was in junior lifeguards at main beach by the Boardwalk. It was fun for CA at least, not so much elsewhere, and not if you were my parents property, half of which ran into our neighbor’s yard (sandstone). El Nino not only supports epic surf, it results in super west and even sww swell events that are loving spectacular for CA. Recent events have been kinda duds though, not canonical in presentation Taima has issued a correction as of 01:04 on May 17, 2023 |
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May 17, 2023 01:00
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oof, wait till 2100
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May 17, 2023 01:03
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Xaris posted:good. the 97 El Niño in California was so much fun. hope we can bring it back! The El Nino of '97, now that sure was big one. Going to school and seeing trash bins floating by. A steaming LAUSD chicken patty sandwich in an auditorium humid with tracked in water. I'll never be able to hear "Laguna Niguel" without remembering houses falling into the sea from a landslide. Taima posted:canonical el nino effects map strongly to intense ssta and classic east distribution of anomaly. Academically eh. Any good books you'd recommend? Not even just on ENSO, but meteo in general.
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May 17, 2023 01:05
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May 17, 2023 01:07
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skooma512 posted:The El Nino of '97, now that sure was big one. Going to school and seeing trash bins floating by. A steaming LAUSD chicken patty sandwich in an auditorium humid with tracked in water. I'll never be able to hear "Laguna Niguel" without remembering houses falling into the sea from a landslide. how technical we talkin my guy
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May 17, 2023 01:10
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Apparently Hampton Roads is eager to be the second major metro area to get reclaimed by the sea after Miami: https://www.dailypress.com/news/environment/vp-nw-sea-level-rise-hr-20230515-foaoyfzqxfbpheuu6s7mbdkyzu-story.html Of course, it doesn't help that the Chesapeake Bay got hit by a nearly two-mile-wide bolide ~35.5 million years ago that made the already-sandy ground all the more porous and vulnerable to erosion and sea rise. My Boomer parents continue to hold onto their rental property there, holding onto hope because some calculator told them it'd be "safe" up to six feet of sea level rise.  Said calculator didn't take into account that when the sea level rises on a coastal plain, so too rises the ultra-shallow inland water table (which routinely gets contaminated, fouling people's wells), turning the ground supposedly "safe" structures are on into quicksand marshland. BIG HEADLINE has issued a correction as of 01:56 on May 17, 2023 |
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May 17, 2023 01:54
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Taima posted:how technical we talkin my guy I'm up for anything so long as it doesn't involve high level math.
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May 17, 2023 02:40
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May 17, 2023 03:35
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i love to be wrong as hell about everything all the time
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May 17, 2023 03:35
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Apparently Hampton Roads is eager to be the second major metro area to get reclaimed by the sea after Miami: https://www.dailypress.com/news/environment/vp-nw-sea-level-rise-hr-20230515-foaoyfzqxfbpheuu6s7mbdkyzu-story.html kinda my backyard showing up here. Might start putting up little signs that say "don't build your house on the sand". Fun fact, the way this feels as a person standing on it is like you are riding a weird surfboard because the turf on top of the water table and even the roads start undulating and shifting like an ocean were under them, because there is c: Stinky Wizzleteats has issued a correction as of 04:00 on May 17, 2023 |
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May 17, 2023 03:58
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Don't worry, when the coastal plains countrywide turn into "Marshy Centralia," rendering trillions in real estate unfit for human habitation, I'm sure *that* will be the catalyst that makes people realize "oh hey, things might be getting bad."
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May 17, 2023 04:08
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said goodbye to my cool banjo playing, model-a driving neighbor today, he's moving up to the carolinas. second neighbor to move out in the last few months, i think having another hurricane near-miss last year motivated the people with enough money for relocating to escape to higher ground while they can. when i was helping him move boxes i found out he was keeping a big trough of birdseed just on the other side of the fence so i guess a lot of the birds that visit me were just getting food next door lol. hope my bird baths are enough to keep some around. got four(!) young blue jays out there this season that are great to watch. they can fly some but don't venture beyond the nearest trees, poking around at branches and rocks on the ground figuring out what they can and can't eat, screaming and flapping their wings anytime a parent flies back in to beg for a feeding. im sure at some point an osprey is gonna swoop in and grab one of them but they are having a good time for now.
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May 17, 2023 04:25
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a strange fowl posted:i love to be wrong as hell about everything all the time I will get on my knees and praise a God I don't currently believe in if climate change doesn't happen, or is even like,survivable.
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May 17, 2023 04:37
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Yeah it's survivable. But not if it sneaks up on you completely unprepared and you're a lovely camper or disabled or a lot of other factors that would prevent moving on foot. Hampton roads and Norfolk/vb are all hosed and have a lot of airbases and other mil installations that don't seem to give a gently caress lol
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May 17, 2023 04:40
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The worst it's ever going to be is like a real bad hurricane followed by a real hosed up aftermath, and when the big son of a bitch looks eminent you just get out and dont look back. Might mean camping in the worst case.
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May 17, 2023 04:44
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skooma512 posted:I will get on my knees and praise a God I don't currently believe in if climate change doesn't happen, or is even like,survivable. There could be the most jank hundreds of square miles of dead mans land full of no-safety nuclear reactors powering a drill the size of Manhattan into the mantle and spewing a plume of olivine into the stratosphere to be weathered and it would be the most miraculous thing to happen to the biosphere since the birth of mankind if it could hold climate change back from apocalyptic to nightmarish
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May 17, 2023 04:48
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on the bright side, property values around Vancouver won't keep rising forever
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May 17, 2023 05:01
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also no one gets to live forever and that knowledge can't be allowed to stop your living, but it should clarify what living means and what it doesnt
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May 17, 2023 05:18
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Wheeee posted:on the bright side, property values around Vancouver won't keep rising forever actually, number always goes up
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May 17, 2023 05:18
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now is the time to invest in property in nunavut
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May 17, 2023 05:22
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Stinky Wizzleteats posted:a lovely camper RIP most Americans Stinky Wizzleteats posted:or disabled RIP me
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May 17, 2023 05:26
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the fortunate grandchildren of today's working class will live on in indentured servitude in small enclaves ruled by the formerly wealthy now turned neofeudal lords
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May 17, 2023 05:31
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Is there any good post-climate change speculative fiction out there?
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May 17, 2023 05:33
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And I guess what I mean by post-climate change is post-material conditions have deteriorated so badly there is no denying it's existence outside of wierd cult-like enclaves and a general collapse of 21st century industrial economies.
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May 17, 2023 05:35
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parable of the sower, the water knife, american war (not a focus but gas cars being banned kicks off civil war 2)
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May 17, 2023 05:53
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The Road
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May 17, 2023 05:54
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Just a Moron posted:Is there any good post-climate change speculative fiction out there? I read the deluge and it had mixed reviews in here. Probably the most realistic one but it's super long and might not be worth it. Has the science down pretty well.
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May 17, 2023 06:01
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Bad news  quote:World likely to breach 1.5C climate threshold by 2027, scientists warn Good news quote:The breaching of the crucial 1.5C threshold, which scientists have warned could have dire consequences, should be only temporary, according to research from the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO). Bad news quote:However, it would represent a marked acceleration of human impacts on the global climate system, and send the world into “uncharted territory”, the UN agency warned. Good news quote:Countries have pledged, under the 2015 Paris climate agreement, to try to hold global temperatures to no higher than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels, after scientific advice that heating beyond that level would unleash a cascade of increasingly catastrophic and potentially irreversible impacts. overall it’s impossible to say if there’s anything to worry about https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/may/17/global-heating-climate-crisis-record-temperatures-wmo-research
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May 17, 2023 11:29
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the cope on display is really something to beholdquote:WMO is sounding the alarm that we will breach the 1.5C level on a temporary basis with increasing frequency. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTicU8jklyI TACD has issued a correction as of 11:43 on May 17, 2023 |
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May 17, 2023 11:39
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TACD posted:Bad news I like the implication that the breaching of 1.5 is only temporary, when we've done nothing to even slow the acceleration of emissions, let alone reverse them. Pretty soon it'll be temporary when we start breaching 2C
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May 17, 2023 11:58
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a perfectly seamless transition from "scientists say breaching 1.5C will only be temporary" to "scientists say there will still be occasional cooler years of respite"
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May 17, 2023 12:26
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