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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:In Russia? Yes i am talking about Russia As i've said earlier those are not superstitions that they actually believe, just tricks to secure prison hierarchy. Russian prison culture is also very young, it was established after WW2, maybe 1920-30s at the earliest if you make the line from "honor" rules of tsarist officers that turned to banditry in Civil War fatherboxx fucked around with this message at 18:03 on May 18, 2023 |
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It's like the USSR: residents on life in Mariupol a year since Russian occupation posted:The mood in Mariupol has “changed dramatically”, according to residents who thought Russia would stay forever but are now expecting a swift Ukrainian military offensive to recapture the city. Monsters. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/18/its-like-the-ussr-residents-on-life-in-mariupol-a-year-since-russian-occupation
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fatherboxx posted:Yes i am talking about Russia Ah, got it. Thank you for the clarification.
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# ? May 18, 2023 18:11 |
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Somewhat interesting article published on Norwegian state broadcasting's website today about Russian embassy staff (almost certainly intelligence operatives) shopping around for advanced underwater equipment from Norwegian businesses. Article is in Norwegian but google translate does a passable job of rendering it into english (though messes up some things here and there).
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# ? May 18, 2023 19:10 |
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HonorableTB posted:In contemporary times absolutely. That same desire to hobble nations that might join up with Russia's enemies takes different forms throughout the centuries. That’s the pattern of every european empire 1500-1945. It’s real goofy to me how people look to the pre-soviet times and ascribe it to some inherent russian sonderweg that cannot change
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:That’s the pattern of every european empire 1500-1945. It’s real goofy to me how people look to the pre-soviet times and ascribe it to some inherent russian sonderweg that cannot change That's not what I said at all. The way the Russian Empire did its imperialism is quite different than how other Europeans did it because of the nature of Siberian expansion vs oceangoing vessels and overseas colonialism. The internal social and geopolitical problems from that were quite different. The land connection (and here is the importance of railroads in Russian history) from Moscow to the provinces allowed for a much more easily enforced cultural homogeneity whenever a wave of Russification happened. The colonization carried Russification alongside it as a matter of course; spreading Russian control over the empty far east meant forced resettlement of the in-group population out to those areas and making them complicit in the cultural and physical replacement of the indigenous inhabitants. This happened with the Tatars, for example. They were dispersed to mostly Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan Compare that to say, the Spanish colonies in the Americas. They created their own distinct cultures and eventually developed into their own distinct sovereign nations and peoples; the same has not happened for the Russian Far East because of several reasons (lack of population, expanse of land, etc etc). It's just an inherently different situation when examining the expansion of Russia (which is itself really just the expansion of Moscow's influence). I'd argue that the Russian Empire engaged in demographic manipulation more than any contemporary empire for the duration of its existence, and that the Soviet Union continued it without a thought. As far as it not changing, well, it's 2023 and Russia's trying to genocide the Ukrainian identity yet again, so no, they seemingly have not learned anything from the past 400 years as far as Ukraine itself is concerned specifically HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 19:38 on May 18, 2023 |
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HonorableTB posted:The colonization carried Russification alongside it as a matter of course; spreading Russian control over the empty far east meant forced resettlement of the in-group population out to those areas and making them complicit in the cultural and physical replacement of the indigenous inhabitants. This happened with the Tatars, for example. They were dispersed to mostly Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan Noted indigenous people, Tatars
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# ? May 18, 2023 20:09 |
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fatherboxx posted:Noted indigenous people, Tatars “Indigenous” is relative. Who lived in Crimea immediately before the Crimean Tatars got there, was it the Crimean Goths? I think so.
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Captain Splendid posted:
This rules
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Sucrose posted:“Indigenous” is relative. Yes, before they went over to sack Rome
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Lol, lmao America: Actually we didn't give you as much as we thought we did. We actually have more available than thought quote:According to the agency, the reassessment of military assistance to Ukraine means that the United States has more funds than previously thought. Therefore, the need to coordinate another financial assistance package between the White House and Congress may not yet arise. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/18/7402844/
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# ? May 18, 2023 21:10 |
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If you're interested in the history of who lived in Crimea, this post (from a blog I found thanks to this thread) has a lot of details.
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# ? May 18, 2023 21:40 |
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Sucrose posted:“Indigenous” is relative.
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FMguru posted:For a while they shared the area, using the Crimea River as the mutually-agreed border between them. tales are still told of it to this day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0
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# ? May 18, 2023 21:46 |
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https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-us-could-train-ukrainian-pilots-to-fly-f-16s-in-4-months-184136820.html During 3 weeks two Ukrainian pilots were assessed on F-16s (simulators, not air-frames). "Conclusion: it’ll take 4 months to train them, not 18, as the Pentagon has said." https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1659271091234250752
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karoshi posted:https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-us-could-train-ukrainian-pilots-to-fly-f-16s-in-4-months-184136820.html this is good for bitcoin
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# ? May 18, 2023 22:13 |
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"It will take too long" always seemed like an excuse not to actually do it at all. Even before this assessment, people familiar with the stuff estimated that it would be a few months for a trained jet pilot, e.g.:quote:The F-16 is relatively easy to operate safely, so it’s not too high a barrier to cross for the Ukrainian Air Force. An F-16 pilot told The War Zone: “In a matter of months it’s possible for a non-familiar aviator to be reasonably safe in a jet like the F-16. The systems are easy to operate, the jet is easy to fly, and it’s very intuitive to learn. The Viper is an easy transition for an experienced fighter pilot from a pure flying perspective, no matter what type they are coming from.” Obviously weapons and tactics would take some additional training depending on the type of missions but not like years.
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# ? May 18, 2023 22:30 |
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Training time was always a bullshit excuse. "It'll take a long time to train the pilots!" Better start now then.
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# ? May 18, 2023 22:42 |
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Tragically I have heard that all the patriot batteries have been sadly blown up by Russia. Russia should probably take advantage of this by launching their most expensive, and ideally irreplaceable hardware at key Ukrainian targets like telephone exchanges, power pylons and old missile dumps, immediately. To any FSB agents reading this, this is good intel, please pass it up the chain.
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https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1659207866543374344
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# ? May 19, 2023 00:26 |
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Update it for f-16s and its a perennial meme
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# ? May 19, 2023 00:36 |
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1659256933113634818 Russia seems to be throwing nonstop missile tantrums lately. Probably desperate to do anything to delay the offensive, and in addition no longer care about maintaining even a reasonable stock of strategic missiles. Explosions were heard in Kryvyi Rih. Air defense works in Kyiv.
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# ? May 19, 2023 00:40 |
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HappyHippo posted:If you're interested in the history of who lived in Crimea, this post (from a blog I found thanks to this thread) has a lot of details. It's a really interesting place. Always some sort of border land. An interstitial space for many cultures, with traces of each left behind. You'll find people now, out and about in the rest of the world, who can trace their lineage to and through Crimea. Knew a guy in Florida who was a third generation immigrant from Crimea. Eastern Orthodox Ukrainian speaking Greeks from Simferopol who settled in Odessa, Florida.
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mobby_6kl posted:Yes, before they went over to sack Rome Rome, like all things, laid low by big tiddy goth girlfriend.
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1659256933113634818 They seem to have realized that they have one play left and it’s all about to come tumbling down
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# ? May 19, 2023 01:03 |
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HonorableTB posted:Update it for f-16s and its a perennial meme Doesn't surprise me. Motivation counts a fair bit and the guys learning in Ukraine have Russia shooting at them to motivate them to be as effective as possible as quickly as possible. Big difference from a stateside recruit joining in peacetime.
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mobby_6kl posted:eating pussy is extremely gay if you think about it
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Explosions heard in Volyn. Air defense worked in Rivne. e: Explosions heard in Lviv too. zone fucked around with this message at 02:20 on May 19, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1659337160867168257 Crazy old man decided to open the glue pot
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Tai posted:https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1659337160867168257 Stalin killed 60+ million people out of love bro believe us bro Jesus Christ.
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Crimea belongs only to the descendants of the Goths and those Anglo-Saxon refugees who fled William the Conqueror. All other so-called “Crimeans” will be unwelcome under the new order.
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# ? May 19, 2023 02:36 |
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zone posted:Stalin killed 60+ million people out of love bro believe us bro "it would have been morally wrong and evil not to invade poland alongside nazi germany"
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# ? May 19, 2023 02:37 |
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1659296128032993288 "We keep losing and everyone keeps making fun of us and saying that we will lose, so we know what to do! EXECUTE EVERYBODY!"
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Tunicate posted:"it would have been morally wrong and evil not to invade poland alongside nazi germany" And the Baltics and Romania and Bulgaria and Moldova and Hungary and Yugoslavia and Albania and Finland
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Delthalaz posted:Anglo-Saxon I didn't know Margarita Simonyan had a forums account!
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https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1659319058351702016 https://twitter.com/Rebel44CZ/status/1659345784582619144 presented without comment.
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1659319058351702016 That isn't a tiktok or my favorite youtuber I'm not reading that poo poo. Stupid boomers learn to propaganda better. *fortnite dances away*. edit: Actually don't learn how to propaganda better, thanks! Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 03:39 on May 19, 2023 |
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Who declares you are an expert?
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Crab Dad posted:Who declares you are an expert? Fox News
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1659319058351702016 Between Shock Therapy and this, its pretty clear Jeffrey Sachs gets off on hurting Eastern Europeans.
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