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RC and Moon Pie posted:Watching the Gladiators 30 for 30. It apparently goes in a different direction. To give you a hint, it's produced by VICE Studios.
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# ? May 31, 2023 04:13 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 07:38 |
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https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1663879700454711299 Man he got less than I thought. Although I guess it probably equals out now that like he doesn't have to pay and deal with like the management and overhead side of running his own business/show.
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:25 |
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I like Pat McAfee
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:42 |
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/status/1663879700454711299 Wild. He took a $13m/year paycut? No way that pays for itself in any kind of production savings. Has to be something else going on.
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# ? May 31, 2023 13:49 |
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DeimosRising posted:Wild. He took a $13m/year paycut? No way that pays for itself in any kind of production savings. Has to be something else going on.
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# ? May 31, 2023 14:00 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:I like Pat McAfee It comes and goes, I generally like him, as like he's one of the few dudes in sports prognostications who like, actually seems to loving like sports and wants to have fun talking about it, leaning more positive than negative like most sports prognosticators do nowadays. But also he can be very very annoying.
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# ? May 31, 2023 14:04 |
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He sucks, his wrestler gimmick sucks, his wife beater/sport coat look is abhorrent, and he singlehandedly caused me to watch about 50% less Gameday, a show I've been watching religiously for about 30 years. No better example of the whole "Idiocracy was a documentary" trope than this clown getting $17MM to yell and scream and slam the desk for three hours, when he's not belly flopping into some body of water of course.
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# ? May 31, 2023 14:09 |
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DeimosRising posted:Wild. He took a $13m/year paycut? No way that pays for itself in any kind of production savings. Has to be something else going on. I mean he no longer has to pay his employees and co-hosts on the show, as I assume they are now ESPN employees. Doesn't have to pay health insurance costs, or anything else relating to renting a space/insurance etc, doesn't pay rent for the space he's renting, doesn't have to pay the NFL for rights to use the footage in his show, as ESPN has that covered. Also probably just generally Time is money, he no longer has to think about anything business wise other than doing the show. Probably not quite 13m/y but at some stage taking a lets say even 10 million a year paycut sounds like alot, but at that level of wealth, it's all monopoly money, and just increasing a number for ego. It doesn't particularly change your life. He also now is going to have a far far larger platform and assuming it goes well will be in front of millions of eyes vs the like 50k or whatever he does on his YT show.
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# ? May 31, 2023 14:13 |
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Yea, at that level, I would happily give up a couple mil to not have to deal with bullshit related to running a company any more.
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# ? May 31, 2023 14:23 |
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He’s likely also on a deferred compensation plan and Disney has a very good overall retirement plan.
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# ? May 31, 2023 19:10 |
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https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1663885673558863872?s=46 Oh boy
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# ? May 31, 2023 19:16 |
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https://twitter.com/wtol11toledo/status/1664057127407689728?s=46 This sucks, Jim’s a great broadcaster. gently caress a cancer.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 01:07 |
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https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1664060429738422273
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 01:22 |
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Reading the breast milk tweet right before the “I know the deal, I’ve done it before, and I plan to do it once again,” tweet threw me for a loop.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 01:32 |
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Watching the Gladiators 30 for 30. We just got to the climax of the documentary: making GBS threads on the '08 reboot. Probably also means we're due for a new run during this next writers strike.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 03:29 |
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:We just got to the climax of the documentary: making GBS threads on the '08 reboot. I watched a little bit of the reboot on youtube last week god it was awful.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 04:59 |
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LionYeti posted:I watched a little bit of the reboot on youtube last week god it was awful.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 05:09 |
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It’s like American Ninja Warrior versus the OG, I wanna hear a 30 second segment about the fisherman who does pull-ups off the side of his boat for training then watch him run the course, not a 5 minute sob story from some failed personal trainer out of Texas how this is their greatest dream realized
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 06:52 |
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I’ve made this exact same statement about why the original AG was the best version of the athletic competition shows. Just give me grainy footage from your friend holding the camera while you lift weights at the gym then do the training course at the firefighter academy. I don’t care that your little brother died of cancer when he was 10, and I sure don’t need to see pictures of his last birthday at the children’s hospital for 3 minutes.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 08:01 |
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This sounds exactly like why prime time coverage of the Olympics is awful
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 13:29 |
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Every network has their habits. CBS has 10,000 cop crime procedurals, ABC has 10,000 CW dramas with bigger budgets, FOX has 10,000 “hey can I copy your homework?” game shows, and NBC has 10,000 sob stories where an athletic event is a side show.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 14:12 |
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Sash! posted:This sounds exactly like why prime time coverage of the Olympics is awful Don Ohlmeyer is sitting at the left hand of Satan for this crime.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 22:45 |
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Crazy Ted posted:It was basically unwatchable because of how many Human Interest stories they tried to cram into each show. None of the gladiators were all that good at the competitions either except for Wolf
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 13:52 |
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last night in great local news reports: https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1664474043658178563
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 14:38 |
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The one thing that surprised me about American Gladiators is how small it is. In the UK, it was held at the NEC in Birmingham which is setup for around 15,000 people. The show was absolutely massive and held the prestigious Saturday prime time family spot for years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrqDmIaj_aM I have to laugh about Shadow getting kicked off because of a steroid scandal. Who looked at any of those dudes and thought any of them was clean. Also man, Shadow is definitely some 90s naming for a black performer. E: looks like we had a revival in the UK too, back in 2008 and there’s another one coming this year.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 15:11 |
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Alexander Hamilton posted:None of the gladiators were all that good at the competitions either except for Wolf EL BROMANCE posted:The one thing that surprised me about American Gladiators is how small it is. We would get a taste of it during International Gladiators specials, an absolute madhouse. Though Saturday syndication is the opposite of British television (to the point where I swear I saw cardboard cutouts in the stands on more than one occasion).
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 22:41 |
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I feel like the doc did a pretty good job explaining why Gladiators is uniquely viable in the 80s and not now. Like they all sit around going “this isn’t safe for people to do, we were horribly hurt and addicted to drugs, this is more dangerous than the NFL” and then they’re all saying “the reboot lacked any punch”. Doing it all 80s would be a mess of liability and bad press. Tuning it down results in bad reactions. Then you have the aspect of the Gladiators being your stars and being eventually in a position to want proper pay. It’s just cheaper and easier to run reality shows where no one will get horribly injured and you can just keep turning over the talent so they never unionize.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 23:31 |
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Battle Dome was a late 90s gladiators/wrestling mash-up that ended up injuring a ton of competitors— one episode a guy went down with a leg injury, then his replacement immediately broke his ankle.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 23:45 |
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STAC Goat posted:I feel like the doc did a pretty good job explaining why Gladiators is uniquely viable in the 80s and not now. Like they all sit around going “this isn’t safe for people to do, we were horribly hurt and addicted to drugs, this is more dangerous than the NFL” and then they’re all saying “the reboot lacked any punch”. Doing it all 80s would be a mess of liability and bad press. Tuning it down results in bad reactions. Then you have the aspect of the Gladiators being your stars and being eventually in a position to want proper pay. Johnny Ferraro and Vince McMahon are incredibly similar in how they operate. The only differences were the specifics of their sliminess. Hell, American Gladiators was essentially the buffer between 1980s WWF and WCW's brief blip and the Attitude Era. And a lot of lives were messed up the same way from 1980s WWF and 1990s WWF/WCW: Awful schedules, rampant drug problems and no power for most of its performers. Wrestling only had better pay.
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 02:05 |
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Amoral narcissists and conmen all kind of look similar when you break them down. Use people, build a cult of personality around yourself, call any criticism a lie and pay off people to be quiet. Sounds like another guy from the 80s.
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 02:09 |
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STAC Goat posted:Amoral narcissists and conmen all kind of look similar when you break them down. Use people, build a cult of personality around yourself, call any criticism a lie and pay off people to be quiet. Sounds like another guy from the 80s. At least Herb Abrams went out like a true ‘80s guy when the UWF imploded: naked, covered in baby oil, smashing up his office with a baseball bat, and with more cocaine in his system than Studio 54.
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 02:13 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:At least Herb Abrams went out like a true ‘80s guy when the UWF imploded: naked, covered in baby oil, smashing up his office with a baseball bat, and with more cocaine in his system than Studio 54. You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 05:42 |
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STAC Goat posted:I feel like the doc did a pretty good job explaining why Gladiators is uniquely viable in the 80s and not now. Like they all sit around going “this isn’t safe for people to do, we were horribly hurt and addicted to drugs, this is more dangerous than the NFL” and then they’re all saying “the reboot lacked any punch”. Doing it all 80s would be a mess of liability and bad press. Tuning it down results in bad reactions. Then you have the aspect of the Gladiators being your stars and being eventually in a position to want proper pay.
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 07:16 |
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I’ve been watching some episode on YouTube and it’s really brutal. The likely amount of concussions alone as a gladiator just smashes contestants repeatedly in the head.
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 08:48 |
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Edward Mass posted:You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain. This gem from Wikipedia: “Abrams later started a chain of plus-size clothing stores for women called I'm a Big Girl Now in 1988.” Woof
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 20:47 |
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Holy poo poo
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# ? Jun 3, 2023 23:01 |
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People have been hating Bill Simmons for ages, not realizing that Bill's fade from the sports scene would see him replaced by a tiny evil version of himself, Dave Portnoy
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# ? Jun 4, 2023 04:35 |
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Dejan Bimble posted:People have been hating Bill Simmons for ages, not realizing that Bill's fade from the sports scene would see him replaced by a tiny evil version of himself, Dave Portnoy God that's bleak
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# ? Jun 4, 2023 06:20 |
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https://twitter.com/alex_faust/status/1665782993003094016
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Dejan Bimble posted:People have been hating Bill Simmons for ages, not realizing that Bill's fade from the sports scene would see him replaced by a tiny evil version of himself, Dave Portnoy Bill Simmons' sins are pretty loving small on a scale of "0-to-Dave Portnoy".
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