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Got Natasha's E6 from standard banner. She actually does pretty formidable normal attack damage with it. If I were to equip her with all my Bailu gear, it would add like 2300 to her normal attack. edit: Also lucked on Tingyun's E4 from the Jing Yuan banner (stopped after that, since I was already pushing my luck). I don't quite understand how it works, though. It says it adds 20% to the "damage multiplier provided by Benediction," but Benediction provides an ATK buff. What exactly is it multiplying? The buff, or the additional lightning damage? Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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Beginning to lose hope in this "ps5 in 1.1" thing lol  Buy anyway, about silver wolf. One thing that I've been interested in seeing, is if her weakness generation skips over the weaknesses an enemy already has. People have been saying silver wolf is only good on mono quantum teams. But lets say that you have an enemy that's weak to, say, fire and physical. If SW works how I want her to, you could use the standard Nat/PMC core with Seele, and the implanted weakness would still be guaranteed to be quantum. Pretty good! Or lets say the enemy is already weak to quantum, and maybe lightning. You could run something like Nat/Clara/Ting/SW and guarantee a physical weakness. Also pretty good! I mean I'm gonna get her either way, but it's good to know.
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MoonCrab posted:Beginning to lose hope in this "ps5 in 1.1" thing lol This is actually testable because Silver Wolf and Kafka are playable in the tutorial. If Silver Wolf's skill isn't active on an enemy, a new cast of it will always generate a weakness the enemy doesn't have if possible. If the skill IS active already (ie, you're refreshing it early), it can pick a weakness the enemy has naturally if there aren't any other weaknesses available in your party. In other words, with the tutorial party of Kafka + SW, the first cast will always generate a quantum weakness because the enemies are natively weak to lightning. However, if you cast the skill again while it's already active on an enemy in this situation, there's a chance that it'll "create" a lightning weakness, since the enemy is already weak to both (because of SW's skill still being active). TL;DR: It'll generate a new weakness if it can. Also, for the record, very limited and speculative testing using the tutorial implies that Silver Wolf's generated weakness weights all potential weaknesses equally, so running her in a mono-element party (non-quantum) has a 50/50 chance to generate a quantum weakness still.
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Zurai posted:Also, for the record, very limited and speculative testing using the tutorial implies that Silver Wolf's generated weakness weights all potential weaknesses equally, so running her in a mono-element party (non-quantum) has a 50/50 chance to generate a quantum weakness still. Join me on the path of The Pedantry, and we can nip this terminological inexactitude in the bud right now.
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Nice, I was wondering why they'd make her such a nonbo with the other stellaron hunters but I guess they didn't  That makes her a very flexible support that's only gonna get more flexible the more characters you get. You can tailor her teams to be able to feed the enemy the exact weakness you want (eventually). In the worst case scenario I was gonna run her with Nat/Clara/Seele or Luocha/Welt/Seele anyway but this is much better!
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Did Genshin ever get an item that allowed you to breakthrough characters without dupes?
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GoodluckJonathan posted:Did Genshin ever get an item that allowed you to breakthrough characters without dupes? No
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FractalSandwich posted:This drives me insane in Genshin, so I think the Star Rail community needs to come together early and agree: it's not "mono" anything if one of your party members is a different element! That's two elements! Yeah, honestly I was extremely confused reading that sentence just now.
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Fair. "Otherwise mono-element team". In other words, say, Silver Wolf + Jing Yuan + Tingyun + Bailu, there's a 50% chance to generate a quantum weakness on an enemy with no inherent lightning or quantum weakness, not a 25% chance. That's based on very incomplete testing though and may change in live.
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I believe people use "mono-element" in Genshin to refer to teams that don't use reactions to amplify damage, but since reactions don't even exist in Star Rail, it makes zero sense to use it outside of actual single -element parties here.
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got to MoC6 (cleared MoC5 with 2/3*) with a clumsy pack of FireMC, Yanqing, Beilu, Tingyun, Serval, Sampo, Asta, and Sushang was able to make due with one tank or one healer per team, but looks like past MoC5, I'm gonna want one of each to be comfortable, of course, might change once my levels even out since i'm still lv70, and MoC is 80.
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Will doubling up Seal and Wolf be a bad idea
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SW supports Seele incredibly well. If you hit quantum weakness, Seele suddenly gets up to 50% res pen, and up to 75% Def pen. That's a lot of damage multipliers for an already incredibly strong unit
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So this new hubbub about Silver Wolf is clickbaity bullshit that’s been known about already and there haven’t been any last minute sweeping changes?
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i say SW is gonna go well with just about any Hunt unit. looking forward to her enabling my YanQing in more battles where there isn't an ice weakness present
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GateOfD posted:i say SW is gonna go well with just about any Hunt unit. I completely forgot Yanqing was in the game because I don't have him and also not a single one of the like 40 people on my friends list has him set as a support Lol
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I've used him a bit since suppprts are so limited that I haven't really bothered sharing codes and just grab somebody from the random pool to speed up material farming if relevant
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:There's a twitter event  silver wolf's greatest hack
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Probably gonna use next Bo’s resin for a crit.dmg chest piece for my Sushang
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mono-*whatever* as a term in genshin makes sense because 99% of otherwise mono teams are going to run an anemo character to shred resistance. the anemo character is just there to do that and with how anemo works in genshin they're mostly dealing that element's damage anyway. plus its hard to think of a snappy term for 3 of an element + kazuha.
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I feel like I over rate We Are Wildfire! I have it at SI 2 and 35% healing and +10% defense at the start of battle is just really good. I often run March and Fireblazer because of it and don't worry about healing. I also think I undervalue Welt. I have a max superimposed lc which deals +40% damage to slowed enemies. Welt, Fireblazer, March 7 and Quinque/Arlan seems like it should be a decent team. Free healing and stacking shields and taunts on the MC should be good for something.
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:There's a twitter event  Even this is gacha I did not get the x.x face, so obviously I lost.
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Was very much interested in SW but thinking I may wait for her rerun as I have a lot of characters I want to build including an in-progress E6 Pela Looking at the leaked stuff for Fu Xuan, which is obviously always subject to constant changes, makes her look extremely busted at E6 as long as her numbers aren’t ridiculously undertuned My reasoning is that if SW has really high support potential she’ll still be worth it to roll when she reruns but with a strong E6 Seele and an E1 JY, both with their LC, I don’t think she will enable anything for me personally. She still looks like a very very good unit and as long as there isn’t another character that fills the same role in between now and her rerun I’ll probably go for her then (if she doesn’t overlap with Topaz, at least)
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Walla posted:I feel like I over rate We Are Wildfire! I have it at SI 2 and 35% healing and +10% defense at the start of battle is just really good. I often run March and Fireblazer because of it and don't worry about healing. We are Wildfire looks like it sucks so much, like I can't even imagine it being good. But maybe it's actually useful in no-healer MoC teams?
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Clarste posted:We are Wildfire looks like it sucks so much, like I can't even imagine it being good. But maybe it's actually useful in no-healer MoC teams? I haven't gone deep into MoC yet, but my strongest team for everything else has been double Preservation with We are Wildfire and Trend of the Universal Market. Funnel all of your tanking into Fireblazer holding Trend and you take very little actual damage except from aoe attacks. As long as you lose less than half of your health in any one fight you always start the next one at 2/3 or more. Actual healing might be a necessity later, but there's always consumables in between battles. Also I guess it sucks if you have better lcs? My only good Preservation lcs are the 2 I mentioned. Also I just realized my Sushang is e3, which is higher than anyone other than Destruction MC. Have her as dps and she can potentially regenerate skill points for me. I need to test this.
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Teamwide damage resistance is one of the better things you can get out of a Preservation LC, the only issue with Wildfire is it's turn-limited. It seems solidly in the middle of 4* options since the BP LC sucks and Universal Market is just kind of a weird niche thing.
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Walla posted:Also I just realized my Sushang is e3, which is higher than anyone other than Destruction MC. Have her as dps and she can potentially regenerate skill points for me. I need to test this. she only refunds a skill point when using that skill against a broken enemy. and you still need at least 1 SP to use it.
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Wildfire is per battle though, not turn right? If it's per battle it's essentially useless vs any of the harder content and bosses since you're gonna be full for them anyway Also Welt is extremely good. Probably the best DPS to come from a non-dps class on top of fantastic utility. acumen fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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haypliss posted:Teamwide damage resistance is one of the better things you can get out of a Preservation LC, the only issue with Wildfire is it's turn-limited. It seems solidly in the middle of 4* options since the BP LC sucks and Universal Market is just kind of a weird niche thing. Most fights don't really last past 5 turns, and the ones that do are usually boss fights that generally have some means to heal afterwards. But maybe that's different in later stage MoC and SU? Universal Market seems made for Fireblazer. Extra defense and what is basically a free follow up for being hit seems made for his taunts. Also the 3 star Preservation cones just suck. I never saw a basic cone worth using for March 7 compared to the ones available for Nihility, Destruction and Hunt.
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It's per battle, but MoC is divided into 2 battles per side and you want to go fast to get the stars anyway, so a limited-time buff would also be more useful. Possibly. Might let you play more aggressively than otherwise?
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Clarste posted:It's per battle, but MoC is divided into 2 battles per side and you want to go fast to get the stars anyway, so a limited-time buff would also be more useful. Possibly. Might let you play more aggressively than otherwise? The party wide defense buff is for 5 turns. The heal is at the start of battle.
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The defense buff will probably last the entire fight in MOC, so that's good. The heal will patch you up for the second fight with the same team in MOC, which might let you avoid running a healer on that side.
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I just did World 3 in SU. It was almost laughably easy with double Preservation, Welt and Sushang. Path of Preservation naturally. I took almost 0 damage during the boss fight. Last time I tried it half of my party was at level 40 and so were all of my light cones. Also, none of my relics were upgraded. This time everyone was level 50 and so was at least 1 of my lcs, and all of my relics were level 7. World 4 is next. Path of Elation with Jing Yuan seems a safe bet for a first clear.
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And it didn't go well. I didn't even make it past the elite, which is vulnerable to ice and fire. Which stinks, because the recommended elements are lightning and wind. Also Preservation is probably the safer and easier route, or I just need to wait until the next equilibrium since the recommended level is 52. Also I would probably be better off with Dan Heng over Sampo. Or maybe I should just bring Nat and let Jing Yuan do his thing.
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Abundance is the SU5 easy mode path but it's more for Kafka herself rather than any of the midbosses.
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Walla posted:And it didn't go well. I didn't even make it past the elite, which is vulnerable to ice and fire. Which stinks, because the recommended elements are lightning and wind. Also Preservation is probably the safer and easier route, or I just need to wait until the next equilibrium since the recommended level is 52. The elites are pulled from a pool of possible options, so it's possible you just got unlucky.
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FairGame posted:Is Pela bad? She seems kinda useful and the game has given me an E6 one. No she's good. But even with those nerfs Silver Wolf is still better than Pela.
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