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Megazver posted:Disco-likes Pretty cool if this becomes a genre.
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In 10 years will it elicit the same visceral reaction as the term 'souls-like'?
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Insurrectionist posted:In 10 years will it elicit the same visceral reaction as the term 'souls-like'? Judging by those screenshots, absolutely. Seeing a alot of mimicry of the form but much shakier on the content
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Insurrectionist posted:In 10 years will it elicit the same visceral reaction as the term 'souls-like'? We already have a term for "Disco-likes" it's cRPG. I'm glad that self contained character RPGs are making a bit of a comeback, so I'm ok with forgiving the obvious influence. Another side of this is that DE shows that people really do want solid cRPG games still, and since ZAUM has created a space, and then created a vacuum in that space, people are going to try to fill that niche. Everything was a Doom-clone until we got Quake and the term became FPS. Hell, Doom itself was a refined system based on Wolfenstein 3D. An entire generation of games boil down to "lets just reskin Doom and write our own story". And that covers everything from Duke Nukem to Shadow Warrior to Hexen, games that are still getting remakes and sequels. I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen any (that I've found) straight up fan games trying to 100%, with no ambiguity or shame, fan games in the DE world. I kinda expected it by now. Though I guess fan games are harder to do than just writing a 50,000 word fan fiction about Harry and Kim moving to the country to be gay farmers.
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Jun 8, 2023 21:48
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Crain posted:We already have a term for "Disco-likes" it's cRPG. Disco is closer to a traditional adventure game with a improved dialogue system added than a cRPG.
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Jun 8, 2023 22:05
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Bar Ran Dun posted:Disco is closer to a traditional adventure game with a improved dialogue system added than a cRPG. It's a CRPG with no combat, which is a split that's been long overdue imo
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Jun 8, 2023 22:15
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There’s multiple ways to unlock/bypass doors so it must be an imm sim.
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No Dignity posted:It's a CRPG with no combat, which is a split that's been long overdue imo And yet it somehow has some of the tensest encounters I've ever played in an RPG
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Jun 8, 2023 22:21
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That depends I think it’s closer to games like Gabriel Knight or Police Quest or Phantasmagoria than to something like Neverwinter Nights or Baldurs Gate or even the Quest for Glory games.
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No Dignity posted:It's a CRPG with no combat, which is a split that's been long overdue imo There's combat, just extremely, extremely limited combat. Which in a weird way makes it some of the most realistic combat in almost any video game. Real fights are not 12 round boxing matches or drawn out slug fests with multiple stages. You just get your rear end kicked in a few punches or a random swing catches someone's chin and it's over in 12 seconds. Real shoot outs aren't long encounters with tactics and swapping gear. They go off and everyone just mag dumps till people run away or everyone's dead. Having the simple few instances of physical violence be both (mostly) optional and disastrous in how brief they are adds to how DE feels so real. DJ_Mindboggler posted:And yet it somehow has some of the tensest encounters I've ever played in an RPG DE fans be like "drat, I gotta prep my healing items and meds, got a real intense paragraph coming up".
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Fruits of the sea posted:There’s multiple ways to unlock/bypass doors so it must be an imm sim.
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Fukalll
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DJ_Mindboggler posted:And yet it somehow has some of the tensest encounters I've ever played in an RPG Yeah, turns out when you don't reduce violence to a rote abstraction it actually has impact. Hard to take life and death stakes seriously when you're randomly killing rooms of dudes as a core gameplay mechanic
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I think that’s the biggest reason I class it adventure. Combat as abstraction and core gameplay loop is pretty fundamental to o cRPGs
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Jun 9, 2023 00:04
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you can play petanque, disco elysium is a sports game
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Well, I dunno if you "play" petanque as much as you "ruin a game of" petanque
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fancy stats posted:you can
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Youremother posted:Well, I dunno if you "play" petanque as much as you "ruin a game of" petanque You can do the clean and jerk, Disco Elysium is an Olympics game.
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actually it's a management game about developing a run down coastal village into a vibrant community by establishing youth centres, nightclubs etc
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that clam game looks fun
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I want a Sam & Max Disco Elysium mashup.
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Animal-Mother posted:I want a Sam & Max Disco Elysium mashup. God there's a lot of potential there. Max as an innocence The War Song , but for operation death blow Sam getting trapped on Evart's chair while he blabbers peevishly at him
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christmas boots posted:lmao "I'm respecting your culture" It's so cool of you to apologize for colonialism, officer!
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Animal-Mother posted:I want a Sam & Max Disco Elysium mashup. Holy poo poo
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disco fans with Abilities: i just want a driving simulation game where you play as an alcoholic suruese rally driver escaping an entroponetic catastrophe in a motor carriage that's not fit for purpose. make it happen
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It's clearly a pinball game sim.
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It's a music game.
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armpit_enjoyer posted:disco fans with Abilities: i just want a driving simulation game where you play as an alcoholic suruese rally driver escaping an entroponetic catastrophe in a motor carriage that's not fit for purpose. make it happen This game already exists, it’s called Darkest Dungeon 2
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Crain posted:Harry and Kim moving to the country to be gay farmers.
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Replace the community center with the doomed commercial area and the Joja mart with Whirling while you are at it. E: scratch it, Garter is obviously Pierre
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I’m not a shopkeeper, I’m a grocery manager
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steinrokkan posted:Replace the community center with the doomed commercial area and the Joja mart with Whirling while you are at it. Joja is Frittte, though. Getting the Paledriver to take you to the desert.
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Wafflecopper posted:This game already exists, it’s called Darkest Dungeon 2 lmao. It's pretty much that
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Organic Lube User posted:Joja is Frittte, though. Pale-ale-driver
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My Pale-aged vodka business is really starting to pay off!
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My first game, I couldn't pass the check to get the low-down from Joyce and Kim got mad at me for trying to wake up the paledriver, so the only thing I knew about the pale was in some pseudoscientific book that mentioned aging booze in the pale and and walking around naked, so I pretty much assumed it was like, stumbling on a book about orgone energy irl.
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I've got a friend playing through the game who was instantly committed to the Union, so he ghosted Joyce and never investigated the truckers. He's probably going to end the game without knowing a thing about the Pale. It's interesting for a game as openly leftist as it is, you might literally not understand the basic nature of the world unless you leave yourself vulnerable in front of an arch-capitalist.
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I'm going to have to take a rain check on my post about DE's issues, there's too many (forums) things I've got on the backburner (I still haven't gotten around to continuing my effortposts about the linguistic reform in 19th century Serbia in another thread), I want to do Disco Elysium justice and I just don't have the focus for it right now.Eiba posted:It's interesting for a game as openly leftist as it is, you might literally not understand the basic nature of the world unless you leave yourself vulnerable in front of an arch-capitalist. Yeah, it's got more than one element like this. Although, it's not something I actually want to criticize it too much for, due to the intended audience thing I talked about before. I general, the game doesn't hesitate to lock you out of things you didn't need to hear anyway. However, there are, for lack of a better word, interlocking safety nets of sorts everywhere. The person who makes themselves vulnerable in front of an arch-capitalist is going to get a reality lowdown. 
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wyoming posted:My first game, I couldn't pass the check to get the low-down from Joyce and Kim got mad at me for trying to wake up the paledriver, so the only thing I knew about the pale was in some pseudoscientific book that mentioned aging booze in the pale and and walking around naked, so I pretty much assumed it was like, stumbling on a book about orgone energy irl. Same here. I never learned much about it, other than what was in that book in the bookstore and a few odd references in a conversation or two.
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You can change your characters wardrobe and go on dates. Disco Elysium is an early 00's newgrounds dating sim.
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