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Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

payday!

A new payment of $61.08 from Yahoo Data Breach Settlement was deposited in your account.

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I assume you have to pay to be a community server ?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Nothus posted:

We told you not to move off of irc. We loving warned you bro

but what about my embedded sassy black reaction gifs and paid Pepe emojis

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
discord is what if irc was also twitter

and ventrilo

which actually the ventrilo part is good, very good. shame about the rest of it tho

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Willa Rogers posted:

payday!

A new payment of $61.08 from Yahoo Data Breach Settlement was deposited in your account.

hell yeah. that's literally ten times the amount ive gotten from any of these settlements over the years

whatcha gonna buy with it?

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck
really wish reddit and discord's positions were switched, as one of them is a platform I use sometimes when bored and the other is one I only used when absolutely forced to and hate every moment of my time on

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Gonna be a trad RETVRN guy but for web1.0 poo poo like IRC, blogs, and forums. We must teach the younger generations.

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites
A hot take but tbh I feel like a lot of the decline in services lies almost squarely at the feet of consumer behavior. I mean yeah the netflix solution is bad and like p much every kind of drm just ends up hurting actual customers more than the people "stealing" so they're gonna bleed customers left and right but it's also weird as gently caress to have been using your ex's netflix for the last decade. The service was already cheap to pay for on an individual basis we only got here because everyone seems to think they should get free poo poo online forever. The tradeoff for free poo poo online forever has been obtrusive ads, and services that start off at a lost with investments and then turn bad once they have a monopoly. I see people bemoaning news paywals in this thread but news was never really free, you previously paid for newspapers because the journalists needed to get paid somehow for their work. Instead they now just get money from their corporate advertisers, and no surprise that creates a huge conflict of interest in journalism.

SA works as a site because we give money to the site to keep it going and in return get a forum we like to use. Twitter, reddit, discord, whatever, is only going to stay "free" for so long in that it costs money to run and that money needs to come from somewhere. Everytime you utilize a free service you're p much willing the corporate panopticon into more power. Yeah I know boycotts don't really work because we're too undisciplined to give up our treats on a wide scale and government regulation/intervention is the only real path forwards but this poo poo is all a very predictable outcome of "the money has to come from somewhere".

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

PoundSand posted:

A hot take but tbh I feel like a lot of the decline in services lies almost squarely at the feet of consumer behavior. I mean yeah the netflix solution is bad and like p much every kind of drm just ends up hurting actual customers more than the people "stealing" so they're gonna bleed customers left and right but it's also weird as gently caress to have been using your ex's netflix for the last decade. The service was already cheap to pay for on an individual basis we only got here because everyone seems to think they should get free poo poo online forever. The tradeoff for free poo poo online forever has been obtrusive ads, and services that start off at a lost with investments and then turn bad once they have a monopoly. I see people bemoaning news paywals in this thread but news was never really free, you previously paid for newspapers because the journalists needed to get paid somehow for their work. Instead they now just get money from their corporate advertisers, and no surprise that creates a huge conflict of interest in journalism.

SA works as a site because we give money to the site to keep it going and in return get a forum we like to use. Twitter, reddit, discord, whatever, is only going to stay "free" for so long in that it costs money to run and that money needs to come from somewhere. Everytime you utilize a free service you're p much willing the corporate panopticon into more power. Yeah I know boycotts don't really work because we're too undisciplined to give up our treats on a wide scale and government regulation/intervention is the only real path forwards but this poo poo is all a very predictable outcome of "the money has to come from somewhere".

the issue is they destroy other services and gobble up market share during their “free” phase

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

PoundSand posted:

A hot take but tbh I feel like a lot of the decline in services lies almost squarely at the feet of consumer behavior. I mean yeah the netflix solution is bad and like p much every kind of drm just ends up hurting actual customers more than the people "stealing" so they're gonna bleed customers left and right but it's also weird as gently caress to have been using your ex's netflix for the last decade. The service was already cheap to pay for on an individual basis we only got here because everyone seems to think they should get free poo poo online forever. The tradeoff for free poo poo online forever has been obtrusive ads, and services that start off at a lost with investments and then turn bad once they have a monopoly. I see people bemoaning news paywals in this thread but news was never really free, you previously paid for newspapers because the journalists needed to get paid somehow for their work. Instead they now just get money from their corporate advertisers, and no surprise that creates a huge conflict of interest in journalism.

SA works as a site because we give money to the site to keep it going and in return get a forum we like to use. Twitter, reddit, discord, whatever, is only going to stay "free" for so long in that it costs money to run and that money needs to come from somewhere. Everytime you utilize a free service you're p much willing the corporate panopticon into more power. Yeah I know boycotts don't really work because we're too undisciplined to give up our treats on a wide scale and government regulation/intervention is the only real path forwards but this poo poo is all a very predictable outcome of "the money has to come from somewhere".

:goonsay:

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

euphronius posted:

the issue is they destroy other services and gobble up market share during their “free” phase

And it's very obvious it's happening each time and yet people trip face first into supporting these lovely things to save a buck now. That's been the entire SV lifecycle of apps that "disrupt industries" it's flagrantly cheese on a mousetrap and yet we all take a bite.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

net work error posted:

Gonna be a trad RETVRN guy but for web1.0 poo poo like IRC, blogs, and forums. We must teach the younger generations.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

ok I see what you’re saying

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

fits my needs posted:

The threat of more ocean trade being diverted to East Coast and Gulf Coast ports is complicated by a Panama Canal experiencing drought conditions, but even if an option, will add as much as 12-18 days to travel time for cargo bound for the U.S.

:sickos: Ha ha yes, the Omnicrisis continue apace

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Xaris posted:

Sellers became dependent on Facebook, too, unable to carry on business without access to those targeted pitches. That was Facebook's cue to jack up ad prices, stop worrying so much about ad fraud, and to collude with Google to rig the ad market through an illegal program called Jedi Blue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_Blue

lmao ddidnt know about this. molotov-ribbentrop for the shiternet.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Capitalism requires infinite growth. Every year you must make more money than last year. And that was fine for Netflix for a while because there were plenty of new subscribers. Then they hit the wall where every English speaking person who was going to get a subscription got it. They tried expanding internationally and that didn't work.

So, if you can't get new subscribers, how do you make more money? Increase revenue, lower costs. You can't increase revenue by increasing subscriptions anymore, so better cut your production costs and raise the prices on existing subscribers. That means all your customers are now getting shittier programs that cost them more.

Maybe you can convert a few of the old account shares into new subscribers if you're lucky.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


PoundSand posted:

A hot take but tbh I feel like a lot of the decline in services lies almost squarely at the feet of consumer behavior. I mean yeah the netflix solution is bad and like p much every kind of drm just ends up hurting actual customers more than the people "stealing" so they're gonna bleed customers left and right but it's also weird as gently caress to have been using your ex's netflix for the last decade. The service was already cheap to pay for on an individual basis we only got here because everyone seems to think they should get free poo poo online forever. The tradeoff for free poo poo online forever has been obtrusive ads, and services that start off at a lost with investments and then turn bad once they have a monopoly. I see people bemoaning news paywals in this thread but news was never really free, you previously paid for newspapers because the journalists needed to get paid somehow for their work. Instead they now just get money from their corporate advertisers, and no surprise that creates a huge conflict of interest in journalism.

SA works as a site because we give money to the site to keep it going and in return get a forum we like to use. Twitter, reddit, discord, whatever, is only going to stay "free" for so long in that it costs money to run and that money needs to come from somewhere. Everytime you utilize a free service you're p much willing the corporate panopticon into more power. Yeah I know boycotts don't really work because we're too undisciplined to give up our treats on a wide scale and government regulation/intervention is the only real path forwards but this poo poo is all a very predictable outcome of "the money has to come from somewhere".
It must suck being this liveral

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

net work error posted:

Gonna be a trad RETVRN guy but for web1.0 poo poo like IRC, blogs, and forums. We must teach the younger generations.

cottage quad core

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

Vox Nihili posted:

They're gonna do a Tumblr. They're gonna go after the female-presenting nipples. But slowly.



thats gonna be hilarious. their porn userbase is absolutely massive. literally millions of pissed off users.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Marx Headroom posted:

thats gonna be hilarious. their porn userbase is absolutely massive. literally millions of pissed off users.

it'd be a big deal for sex work in general considering reddit and twitter are the two largest networking sites for them to advertise on

watch pornhub dip their toes into social media lol

net work error
Feb 26, 2011

Animal-Mother posted:

cottage quad core

dual core core

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Capitalism requires infinite growth. Every year you must make more money than last year. And that was fine for Netflix for a while because there were plenty of new subscribers. Then they hit the wall where every English speaking person who was going to get a subscription got it. They tried expanding internationally and that didn't work.

So, if you can't get new subscribers, how do you make more money? Increase revenue, lower costs. You can't increase revenue by increasing subscriptions anymore, so better cut your production costs and raise the prices on existing subscribers. That means all your customers are now getting shittier programs that cost them more.

Maybe you can convert a few of the old account shares into new subscribers if you're lucky.

yeah that's a fair point they would have become lovely inevitably anyways in pursuit of number, simply providing a good service at a cost that yields a consistent but good profit isn't good enough for a business that wants their stonks to go to the moon and I'm griping about a dumb thing that would happen regardless in an intrinsically flawed system. In short:

forkboy84 posted:

It must suck being this liveral

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

hell yeah. that's literally ten times the amount ive gotten from any of these settlements over the years

whatcha gonna buy with it?

I got greek takeout & a six pack of fancy-beer so the rest, about half of the settlement amount, will go to nichael's fundraising for the innocence project.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

Vox Nihili posted:

The Reddit CEO is doing an AMA about how, specifically, they plan to self-immolate: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/
this sounds familiar:

quote:

Welp, lord u/spez is too tired to reply right now, maybe you can try again in the next AMA scheduled to a decade?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

Nothus posted:

We told you not to move off of irc. We loving warned you bro

:hmmyes:

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Vox Nihili posted:

They're gonna do a Tumblr. They're gonna go after the female-presenting nipples. But slowly.



I think that while a lot of people use Reddit for porn, unlike Tumbler there are also a lot of people that don’t and never visit NSFW stuff. What I don’t know is what the porn ratio is though and how much traffic would leave if they spun off the porn part.

I presume they wouldn’t be stupid enough to just kill it rather than spinning it off.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Willa Rogers posted:

I got greek takeout & a six pack of fancy-beer so the rest, about half of the settlement amount, will go to nichael's fundraising for the innocence project.

What beer?

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Vox Nihili posted:

What beer?

new belgium trippel.

I had it for the first time at the boomer bbq on memorial day & loved it.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

alas, I ate the greek fries & 2 bites of the gyros & am stuffed, so the beer will have to wait a few hours.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Thoguh posted:

I think that while a lot of people use Reddit for porn, unlike Tumbler there are also a lot of people that don’t and never visit NSFW stuff. What I don’t know is what the porn ratio is though and how much traffic would leave if they spun off the porn part.

I presume they wouldn’t be stupid enough to just kill it rather than spinning it off.

so like tumblr

Canned Sunshine
Nov 20, 2005

CAUTION: POST QUALITY UNDER CONSTRUCTION



Willa Rogers posted:

alas, I ate the greek fries & 2 bites of the gyros & am stuffed, so the beer will have to wait a few hours.

what kind of gyro?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
mmm greek fries.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

SourKraut posted:

what kind of gyro?

duh lamb

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Willa Rogers posted:

new belgium trippel.

I had it for the first time at the boomer bbq on memorial day & loved it.

Good call, love me a good Belgian ale

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

It's from colorado lol.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

Willa Rogers posted:

It's from colorado lol.

it's sweet and heavy. take some dihydromyricetin caps before bed to feel better the next day!

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006





the Reddit based tumblr knock off was scrolller

19 o'clock
Sep 9, 2004

Excelsior!!!
is something awful going to become popular again?

will we start making fun of 2023 reg dates?

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

19 o'clock posted:

is something awful going to become popular again?

will we start making fun of 2023 reg dates?

people stopped making fun of reg dates?

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 17 hours!

19 o'clock posted:

is something awful going to become popular again?

No

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