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Raluek posted:no passenger side mirror is the way Bingo. Turn your head and look, you're not Batman.
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madeintaipei posted:
God drat! That is offensively beautiful
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Godholio posted:Bingo. Some cars you need them like panel vans but yeah, I only barely use my passenger mirror in my sedan.
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Godholio posted:Bingo. You don't know that.
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Raluek posted:no passenger side mirror is the way No. This disturbs balance on an otherwise symmetrical vehicle. I use all three drat mirrors. Very useful if you adjust them properly - that is, the side mirrors pick up where the inside rear-view leaves off (unless your inside mirror is blocked by cargo, etc.) This, but I saw an article about it probably right after the SAE paper came out: https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15131074/how-to-adjust-your-mirrors-to-avoid-blind-spots/
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Darchangel posted:No. This disturbs balance on an otherwise symmetrical vehicle. I love that article and my wife thinks I'm deeply weird about it. The SAE paper is deeply technical but I found this figure informative:  Driving with the mirrors positioned as in Figure 12 calls for a different lane change strategy. With this setting, the driver first looks in the inside mirror to check the position and approach speed of vehicles to the rear. Then, the driver glances at the outside mirror to see if a car is in what used to be the blind zone.
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Wierd lookin civic type R.
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I used this guy's strategy to set my mirrors to the SAE recommendation: https://youtu.be/QIkodlp8HMM I still turn my head to check, but the blind spot is significantly smaller.
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Humphreys posted:God drat! That is offensively beautiful The stock cars, especially the early ones, look kinda goofy with their high stance and short length. Early Accords look just as weird until they get dropped a few inches. Great vehicles though. Around here, where nothing rusts and no one drives that far in a year, they lasted for loving ever. Thinking about that, there were a lot of (relatively) high-line Japanese cars around here when I first started driving. A high standard of living, combined with a low cost of living, meant people would splurge on something nice and drive them forever. I don't know how the Japanese companies gained a foothold in Australia (you're Aus, right?), but here they offered a ridiculous amount of optional equipment at cut-throat prices. Very few of the cars that survived until the late 90's were base models. The resale value of Japanese cars was also fairly low. A lot of my cohort had pristine Acuras, Lexii, big Mazdas (929s), the rear wheel drive Toyotas (Celica GTS, Celica Supras and Cressidas), and LXi Hondas as our first cars. We ragged the poo poo out of them. Racing up and down the mountain, speeding on theunopened road around the mountain, hitting 100mph+ on the highway, they took every bit of our abuse until we crashed or broke every single one of them. No we're almost in our 40s and importing our old cars from Japan. Tommy paid $15k for a perfect Honda Legend coupe, Katy scored a sweet Honda Integra for embarrassingly little, Jim replaced his dad's Cressida with a X70 Toyota MK II twenty years after crashing the original, and I'm trying to save for a 2.5 Honda Vigor. They weren't great cars. A base 4cyl Camry will beat the pants off them in every way possible, parts are getting harder to find, and some repair work is a huge PITA. They were very good cars though. Slide behind the wheel and it feels like you got something special. BTW: that Prelude lives in Aus. Hirocima Crusiers out of Western Australia. madeintaipei fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Jun 9, 2023 |
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madeintaipei posted:The stock cars, especially the early ones, look kinda goofy with their high stance and short length. Early Accords look just as weird until they get dropped a few inches. Great vehicles though. Around here, where nothing rusts and no one drives that far in a year, they lasted for loving ever. Yeah Im in Aus, we have a very healthy Japanese import scene and culture. Very ecclectic parents when it came to cars so was exposed to a lot of random stuff. In no particular order: Toranas, XY/XW GTs, NSX, Camry, Magna, Sigma, various Mercs and Alfas. And thanks for the deets on whose Prelude. I might have to stalk them for more information about the build.
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Darchangel posted:No. This disturbs balance on an otherwise symmetrical vehicle. you rarely are looking at the car straight-on to see both mirrors, and cars aren't symmetrical anyway due to having a steering wheel on one side. i think of it as like how some 70s and 80s cars have the dash angled towards the driver, or even surrounding the driver in a cockpit fashion. but also part of the appeal is in simplicity. no need to greeble the car up with stuff that's not required, unless it's doing work as actual decoration. which mirrors don't.
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  https://www.autosport.com/national/news/successful-karmann-ghia-special-saloon-to-return-to-action/6871255/
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Hadlock posted:
No need to look back! I'm coming last!
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madeintaipei posted:I don't know how the Japanese companies gained a foothold in Australia (you're Aus, right?), but here they offered a ridiculous amount of optional equipment at cut-throat prices. I can tell you how they did it here in NZ at least, but the story is similar. Firstly, yeah, they had more equipment. Nice cloth interiors that held together. Power windows and mirrors. AIR CONDITIONING. Pure luxury. But more importantly, they WORKED. We lived on a diet of Commodores and Falcons, Torana's and Cortina and Escorts. Those were all fine enough, but we were also subjected to decades of British slop. Japanese cars, while they might have rusted a bit in the early days, so did the others, and at least the Japanese cars started every morning, no matter how cold. They didn't overheat. They didn't rattle apart, they were actually built properly. To use my grandad as an example. As long as I knew him he had either a company issue BMC Mini, or his own Hillman Hunter. He decided to get out of the Hillman about the time used Japanese imports started being a big thing here. He bought a ex-Japan 1984 Honda Accord. Would have been about a 4 or 5 year old car. Within a week, he was saying he couldn't believe he waited this long driving that old British piece of poo poo. It almost upset him.   Similar story with my mother. She went from a Chrysler Avenger wagon to a Mitsubishi Sigma Turbo:   The same with families all over the country, even if just normal Japanese cars, not even the higher spec JDM stuff. These cars were a revelation, like jumping in a space ship. They were loaded with comfort and features regular people never got before and they just worked, every single day.
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Yeah my dad went from a Rover SD1 to a Celica Supra and I think has only had Japanese cars since then. I was pretty young but vaguely remember that the Toyotas at that time just came with shitloads of kit, he was saying that his friend's BMW didn't even come with a radio as standard.
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knox_harrington posted:Yeah my dad went from a Rover SD1 to a Celica Supra and I think has only had Japanese cars since then. I was pretty young but vaguely remember that the Toyotas at that time just came with shitloads of kit, he was saying that his friend's BMW didn't even come with a radio as standard. LOL thats quite a change in car! No wonder he never went back
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Raluek posted:you rarely are looking at the car straight-on to see both mirrors, and cars aren't symmetrical anyway due to having a steering wheel on one side. i think of it as like how some 70s and 80s cars have the dash angled towards the driver, or even surrounding the driver in a cockpit fashion. Sorry, I actually drive my cars and use the outside mirrors as well as the inside one. One mirror on the outside looks silly.
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BuckyDoneGun posted:The same with families all over the country, even if just normal Japanese cars, not even the higher spec JDM stuff. These cars were a revelation, like jumping in a space ship. They were loaded with comfort and features regular people never got before and they just worked, every single day. Pretty much the same story in the UK - early adopters were lured in by high spec (radio, heated rear window, two-speed wipers, reversing lights, cloth seats, tachometer, two wing mirrors, often a five-speed gearbox) as standard and then realised that cars could actually be faultlessly reliable. Yes, an early Datsun, Honda or Toyota would probably rust away in five, maybe seven years. But an Austin or Hillman did that to, and the Japanese car would work consistently all that time. The Datsun Cherry had the highest satisfaction rating of any car on the UK market in the mid 1970s and we liked it so much that Nissan kept sending the original over even when the second generation had been launched in the JDM. I once helped with a magazine feature comparing 'first gen' Japanese imports to their British domestic equivalents. It was really illuminating driving say, a Mini 1000 Mk3 and a Datsun E10 Cherry back to back, or a Morris Marina and a Toyota E20 Corolla. The Cherry was literally inspired by the Mini and even uses a descendant of the same engine from when Datsun built Austins under license but it was night and day - the Datsun ran like a Swiss watch and everything felt light, smooth and precise. While the Mini felt like it had done twice as many miles as it really had and was coarse, thrashy and made all sorts of thrums and whines. Same for the Corolla and the Marina - the Morris literally felt like a half-finished prototype of the Toyota.
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Type 35 Bugatti engine replica being built by Pur Sang which despite the kind of Asian sounding name, are based in Argentina  We were talking about stressed engine members the other day, this is more what I imagine one to look like. Also it's just drat cool to see how the lower half of this engine is put together
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Hadlock posted:Type 35 Bugatti engine replica being built by Pur Sang which despite the kind of Asian sounding name, are based in Argentina If I remember correctly from a very old book I read once, those 11 holes at the front of the block are actually tubes that run the length of the pan, to allow airflow to cool the oil! 
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Hadlock posted:Pur Sang which despite the kind of Asian sounding name, are based in Argentina It's the Romance language roots for "Pure Blood"
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Safety Dance posted:It's the Romance language roots for "Pure Blood" This probably then belongs in the Terrible Car thread for being from Argentina and remaking a Axis car. Just like Binky no longer deserves a spot in this thread.
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Large Testicles posted:This probably then belongs in the Terrible Car thread for being from Argentina and remaking a Axis car. Just like Binky no longer deserves a spot in this thread. Pretty sure it's a reference to horses, not racism, but I could be wrong.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Pretty sure it's a reference to horses, not racism, but I could be wrong. I'm 99.9% sure you're right, but it is loving hilarious that an Argentine company is called "pure blood."
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BalloonFish posted:Pretty much the same story in the UK - early adopters were lured in by high spec (radio, heated rear window, two-speed wipers, reversing lights, cloth seats, tachometer, two wing mirrors, often a five-speed gearbox) as standard and then realised that cars could actually be faultlessly reliable. Yes, an early Datsun, Honda or Toyota would probably rust away in five, maybe seven years. But an Austin or Hillman did that to, and the Japanese car would work consistently all that time. The Datsun Cherry had the highest satisfaction rating of any car on the UK market in the mid 1970s and we liked it so much that Nissan kept sending the original over even when the second generation had been launched in the JDM. Honda got off to a rather rough start in the US, although their motorcycles already had a very good reputation. We got the N600 and Z600, sold through Honda motorcycle dealerships in Hawaii and later the West Coast. They were good cars, but the lack of power and limited parts availability worked against them. They filled a niche in the US market that very few manufacurers were willing to enter. Things really got going with the Civic/Accord by the late 70's, and they were firmly entrenched by the early 80's. Their Acura brand was a bit of a revelation, starting with the 1.7l Integra and quickly filling out the line with the mid-size Vigor and full size Legend. Every bit as good as contemporary BMWs, with far lower running costs and the all benefits a properly designed FWD car brings. FWD American cars were total poo poo, for the most part, and all the standard equipment in the world couldn't bring them close to Honda/Acura, at any price. Datsun introduced themselves to the US market rather earlier (1958), but sold very, very few cars (or trucks) until the late 60s. What cars they had by then!The B210 and 510 were well loved by Americans that wanted an inexpensive, simple, reliable, and thrifty vehicle. The Z-cars were icing on the cake, and sold very well. Very few vehicles sold in the US at the time could match their performance for the price. Their pickups, in the form of the 220, were the first in a long line of hardworking small trucks with a good reputation for efficiency and reliability. The Nissan D21 (known as the Hardbody here) gained fame and infamy, through hard graft and "mini-trucks", a car subculture of wildly modified small pickups. As an aside, my family in Florida swore by the 210s and 510s, owning two of the former and three of the latter. The first, a 210, was a bank repo they fixed up and kept. A very American car oriented people from Detroit, the 210 opened their eyes to what a small car could and should be. Mom and Dad drove them for work, the kids and cousins learned to drive on them, and the cars got totally rebuilt in the driveway, multiple times, to keep them going. Mitsubishi partnered with Chysler/Dodge early on, first selling cars under the Dodge nameplate, and later opening shared factories (DSM, of Eclipse fame). They were "meh" early on, but got better with time. We got some very fast cars out of the deal, and some tough little pickups. Not a huge player, but not without their successes. Mazda I don't know much about. The small pickups were sold under the Ford name, entering the US truck market after Toyota, Nissan, and Isuzu, but securing a foothold that lasted until the 90s with rebadged US Rangers. The RX-series cars were dragstrips terrors, punching far above their weight in bracket racing if the driver knew how to wring them out. RX-7s did fairly well, as evidenced by multiple threads here on SA. By the mid 80s, their 323/Familias cemented Mazda's place as a lower priced family car, with that continuing through close cooperation between them and Ford until they split up. Toyota is another one I don't know much about. Possessing a very good reputation right out of the gate, they were more willing to sell a wide range of vehicles in the US than most other Japanese manufacturers. Every car or truck was a hit, and US Toyota customers have always been very brand-loyal. Toyota was more than willing to cater specifically to the American market, too, securing long-lasting cooperation agreements with GM, and later opening up their own design and engineering departments here. IMO, they out-American America. The Avalon is the best Buick never made. The Tundra is probably the best 1/2 ton pickup made in America. Lexus, obviously, did well enough here that Toyota spun their luxury cars into it worldwide. Subaru started early with the 360 and Sambar, much the same way as Honda. While never possessing a huge market share, they have always provided solid vehicles with an AWD option that was rarely offered by other brands in their size category. Some very shrewd marketing strategies have made them the go-to for sporty people and professionals alike, starting with the GL and continuing with the Outback, etc. Isuzu struggled to sell cars from the get-go, with their main successes found in rebadging pickups and selling cab-over diesels under their own name. The Isuzu NPR, in particular, has been the go-to for medium duty urban delivery for quite a while. They aren't as comfy as a Chevy or Ford box truck, but they are far more maneuverable and their diesel engines cause far less trouble than the equivalent US motors. Since the mid 80s, most Japanese manufacturers have built and/or designed cars in the US. That's worked out well for them. They play the game to avoid tariffs and taxation by expanding capability in-market, even exporting cars outside from the US. A success story all around, to the point of adopting and adapting Japanese business strategies into tge way Americans work.
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Darchangel posted:Sorry, I actually drive my cars and use the outside mirrors as well as the inside one. i drive mine too. the only one that has a passenger side mirror is the pickup truck, because towing mirrors. cant say i miss em either. gotta keep your head on a swivel regardless
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Pretty sure it's a reference to horses, not racism, but I could be wrong. It is horses. Pure blood, as in thoroughbred 
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What event is that? And yeah going to watch the darts looks like a lot of fun. On a UK theme the Festival of Speed is amazing, just an incredible range of cars, and when they're not racing the cars and the drivers are just hanging out in the paddock. Great day out.
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knox_harrington posted:What event is that? 24hr of Le Mans
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https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023/06/09/ford-formally-unveils-mustang-gt3-at-le-mans-as-classic-circuit-.html      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vlxjarX0J8 LE MANS, France, June 9, 2023 – The best-known sports car will compete in the world’s most iconic endurance race as the Ford Mustang GT3 takes on the challenge of the 24 Hours of Le Mans in June 2024. The Mustang GT3 race car, based on the all-new 2024 Mustang Dark Horse, was unveiled to the racing world today during the centenary celebration on the eve of the 24 Hours of Le Mans. The Mustang race car boasts a bold, colorful new look from Troy Lee, who is recognized as one of the premier motorsports designers in the world. The legendary Mustang GT3 represents Lee’s first foray with Ford race cars. With the reveal, Ford officially enters Mustang into the global FIA GT3 category. Ford’s most recent triumph at the 24 Hours of Le Mans was in 2016 with the Ford GT. To coincide with the unveiling, Ford also is revealing new, global Ford Performance branding – a cleaner, simplified look that will now be featured on all its racing vehicles. This expressive and engaging new identity will help position Ford Performance as a standout lifestyle brand with a sporting mindset. The new Ford Performance mark is easier to integrate across various environments and spaces, including car liveries, merchandise/apparel, display assets, parts/accessories and in advertising. Ford Performance extended its relationship with two longtime partners in Multimatic and M-Sport for the basis of this project. Multimatic, builders of the iconic Ford GT, were also involved in the Ford GT race program and will help build and support the Mustang GT3s, while longtime World Rally Championship partner and two-time championship winning team M-Sport will assemble the Ford Performance-developed 5.4-liter Coyote-based V8 engines that power this powerful new pony. “For a project like the Mustang GT3, we turned to two of our most trusted partners in the motorsports world to help bring this vehicle and program together,” said Mark Rushbrook, Global Director, Ford Performance Motorsports. “I know we’ll all be as thrilled as Ford fans when Mustang begins racing at the highest levels of GT racing in 2024.” The Mustang GT3 race car features a bespoke short-long arm suspension, rear-mounted transaxle gearbox, carbon fiber body panels, as well as a unique aero package developed to meet GT3 targets. Before going to Le Mans in 2024, the Mustang GT3 will compete in various GT3 series across the globe in the hands of customer teams. The first customer team, announced today, is Proton Competition. Based in Ehingen, Germany, Proton intends to campaign a pair of Mustang GT3s in the FIA World Endurance Championship, starting in 2024.* “This is a very important program and an exciting moment for our organization,” said Proton Competition team principal Christian Ried. “The Mustang is a great brand and this is an important step for our team. We look forward to joining with Ford starting in 2024.” Ford Performance will also field a two-car factory race program with Mustang GT3 in IMSA’s GTD Pro class. This will be managed by Multimatic Motorsports and begin at the 2024 Rolex 24 at Daytona. For racers and teams interested in acquiring a Mustang GT3 to enter into competition, please visit https://www.ford.com/performance/mustang-gt3 *Subject to decision of the WEC Selection Committee
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Awesome AI poo poo: I went to my first Radwood today in Philly. It was so cool. I took tons of pics (to be uploaded later). I can't wait til my old car is on the road.
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Night Danger Moose posted:Awesome AI poo poo: I went to my first Radwood today in Philly. It was so cool. I took tons of pics (to be uploaded later). I can't wait til my old car is on the road. Ahh I knew I forgot about something today, damnit. Looking forward to your pics.
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 Click Reliant butts for gallery. Definitely one of the coolest car shows I've ever been to. There were lots of people but spread out enough to see everything, a wide variety of cars, $20 chicken tenders, fantastic weather. The parking lot was a mini car show on its own before we even got in the gates. The drive up from Annapolis (about 1h45m) was wonderfully uneventful. I already can't wait to go next year. Imgur has been dogshit at letting me upload images so if there aren't 100+ pictures in there, I can post a link to the Facebook gallery but I know a lot of people don't use that anymore.
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