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Aphex- posted:Best thing about the shift to WFH is being able to turn avs back on. Hard to browse the forums at work with them on lol. Getting called into a HR meeting to discuss topics including "the goatman" and "bollocknese"
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Aphex- posted:Best thing about the shift to WFH is being able to turn avs back on. Hard to browse the forums at work with them on lol. What you wanted is this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/decreased-productivity/nlbpiflhmdcklcbihngeffpmoklbiooj
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Or alternatively this
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Hahahaha https://twitter.com/Conservatives/status/1669403364470210565
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I know it was back a couple of pages but I'm disappointed nobody mentioned 500 Bus Stops as their comedy highlight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzdEd1dZJjA
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Kieth today grappling with the dual todgers of centrism 
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Failed Imagineer posted:Yeah I like Graeber a lot but I don't really buy that thesis at all. Then in the early 90s they closed all of the depots and had them working out of their vans from laptops, and it just sucked the life out of the job. A lot of the older engineers who remember the before times get together for socials once a month, and my dad and 2 other people work hard to keep everyone in touch, but the younger lads are getting tougher and tougher to contact, partly because they don't want to go to the pub with a bunch of old men but also because to them, that cameraderie just doesn't exist - they don't really talk to each other either. Most of the jobs I've worked in have had a supervisor or a line manager breathing down my neck about efficiency every time we've been caught having a conversation or pausing for a 30 second break. And Amazon are pioneering new and exciting ways of wringing the last dregs of efficiency out of workers. Graeber is absolutely right that jobs used to have wiggle room, they used to have the opportunity for socialisation. Now people are drained and atomised. The few things that made poo poo jobs even slightly bearable are gone. I don't think it's that there's some idyllic past when things were great for workers, it's just that they're undeniably worse now.
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There is a slight swings and roundabouts effect in that sometimes the comradeship could create a closed shop and a bit of a boy's club effect. e.g. with the buses in Leicester it wasn't until service privatization that there was any real representation of women or BAME drivers on the buses, under the city buses they weren't legally allowed to have a colour bar, but you got a whole lot of "I've got nothing against the Pakistanis, but Bob's brother needs a job" effect. Shattering worker cohesion because *taps head meme* "can't have racist talk if nobody's talking" is about the worst way to deal with that though. Yeah sometimes people get cliquey and dickish about the worst things, but making sure that they're only ever allowed to communicate through official paperwork is just draining. There's a balance where all workers are empowered, but obviously that's antithetical to the Amazon model.
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tonight on Question Time the BBC's Balance Algorithm has selected a Tory, a Spectator journo, a GB News presenter, and David loving Blunkett
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Guavanaut posted:Shattering worker cohesion because *taps head meme* "can't have racist talk if nobody's talking" is about the worst way to deal with that though.
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Also just generally not giving a poo poo about manual labour.
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It's convenient for capital that 'preventing cliques' and 'preventing unions' looks like the exact same thing, which was bound to happen by even ostensibly well intentioned attempts to do it through private business bureaucracy rather than by a culture of anti-discrimination in councils and unions.
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It’s worth bearing in mind that capital is almost never intentionally malicious; that’s the province of human-centric social activity. The whole of the problem with capitalism is how it warps the incentive structure of otherwise normal people, which is 98-99% of everyone. The psychos thrive under whatever system; in capitalism they become Bezos or set up triangle trade slavery and under communism they become Beria or set up gulags, skim off the top and use their tiny capital store (that nobody else has) to buy everything in glasnost. The theoretical advantage of communism is that because people are mostly quite nice and also want to do a good job (because we are eusocial primates), if the person directing the economy has perfect insight and decision making then you can get the benefits of capitalism (efficient allocation of effort) without the downsides.
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Beefeater1980 posted:It’s worth bearing in mind that capital is almost never intentionally malicious; that’s the province of human-centric social activity. This is just a dumb "human nature" argument but with extra steps. If selfish incentives are human nature then good luck with building a system around that instead of one that mitigates it. Homo Erectus were probably saying 1 million years ago that fire goes against homo erectus' nature and should be avoided. Something beyond even conservatism, and definitely with less of an intellectual basis than anprims have.
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There are plenty of examples in nature of selfish, asocial species, they are nothing like humans, we only got this far because we work together. We're just struggling to scale it up.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:There are plenty of examples in nature of selfish, asocial species, they are nothing like humans 
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No that’s my point, we are a eusocial species which is why in theory, we ought to be able to handle communism. By primate standards we are insanely collaborative, you couldn’t put a bunch of gorillas on an 11h flight to LA and expect them to not start a melee. We are also individually and group-level selfish, probably because we are the descendants of ancestors that had to compete over scarce resources. So even when resources are relatively abundant, we have the instinct to hoard them in case one day we don’t have enough. Capitalism is as enduring as it is because it rewards our resource-getting instinct when we perform tasks. Perform more tasks, get more resources. Perform tasks that more people want, get more resources. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need doesn’t rely on that. It relies on our basic eusociality. Which is real! It’s a thing we have built into us, just as much as the selfish instinct. But by itself it doesn’t have a feedback mechanism that allocates resources and effort as efficiently as capitalism does. So you need to build one, and that means letting people make decisions and hoping they can beat the market. Which usually they can’t do.
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As I have become older I have become firm in my belief that 20-30% of the human race are absolute cunts, and that's what Gulags are for. Especially Solzhenitsyn, that nazi fucker.
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Unkempt posted:As I have become older I have become firm in my belief that 20-30% of the human race are absolute cunts, and that's what Gulags are for. Especially Solzhenitsyn, that nazi fucker. It's only a gulag if it comes from Russia, otherwise it is simply called a prison. Beefeater1980 posted:No that’s my point, we are a eusocial species Ah sorry my bad I misread.
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I'm reminded of how the Spanish Anarchists would brag about how when they captured a Francoist they would simply allow them to roam around where they wish, like a voluntary prison.
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Couple of interesting articles: https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/61782/iain-dale-lbc-diary-mick-lynch-is-right quote:Iain Dale’s diary: Mick Lynch is right Article by Peter Oborne: https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-boris-johnson-out-must-restore-integrity-politics quote:Boris Johnson is out. Now we must restore integrity to British politics https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/alek-yerbury-national-support-detachment-unions-strikes-pickets/ quote:Far-right ‘supergroup’ founder wants to target picket lines Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jun 16, 2023 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:National Support Detachment (NSD), an umbrella organisation founded by far-right activist Alek Yerbury, brings together fringe groups such as the White Indigenous Rights Alliance (WIRA), former members of Patriotic Alternative, the Northern Infidels and others with the hope of growing in relevance. These people can skip the gulags and go straight in the pits.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Couple of interesting articles:
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Bobby Deluxe posted:... I worked for a public finance firm for a year a while back. One older dude who'd been there for 30+ years said back in their old office, him & a group of colleagues spent a few years converting the basement into a pub. Couple of hours working on it in the week, then coming in on weekends, including the management. Once it was done, they'd kip off at 3pm most days and head "down the pub", and would keep it stocked with interesting beers & a couple kegs they'd rotate out I don't know how much I believed him, but he did have photos of the whole setup, small & roughly built. And he'd get super excited when talking about it. They're in a co-working space now. Job was standard boring office Excel stuff. He wasn't enjoying it very much. My current jobs pretty good, tech company mainly based out of San Francisco. It's been pure work from home for 7+ years, go into a co-working space once a month to see rest of UK team. The people are nice, none of the true friendships I made working for instance on hotel front desks back in the day. But whatever, I've got my actual friends for that. I love the idea of working towards a common beneficial goal with friends and getting paid for it, but that's a bit of a pipe dream.
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Unkempt posted:As I have become older I have become firm in my belief that 20-30% of the human race are absolute cunts, and that's what Gulags are for. Especially Solzhenitsyn, that nazi fucker. Love how the West will mention nothing about him except for sucking him off for The Gulag Archipelago, and then you go learn about what all he said and espoused. And then you are like "Oh actually some people DO deserve the gulag."
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smellmycheese posted:Straight out of politics and into a weekly column at The Mail. A merry go round of grifting THAT POKÉMON
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https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1669618610581524480
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 "If you said "PM Boris Johnson" you'd be wrong! He was never erudite"
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I don't think I would be able to fall into a high paying, low effort journalism hack gig if I had just been reamed out by Parliament for lying to them. Just a feeling that I have.
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Stay safe, London Goons: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/london-now-hotbed-stis-cases-30195424
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quote:“We probably have more young men dying of chemsex than we do dying of AIDs,” says Dr Anatole Menon-Johansson from sexual-health charity Brook.  Neither NYC nor HIV are what they were in the 90s and that's a very good thing unless someone is pushing some other agenda.
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Unkempt posted:As I have become older I have become firm in my belief that 20-30% of the human race are absolute cunts, and that's what Gulags are for. Especially Solzhenitsyn, that nazi fucker. Replace Gulags with Concetration Camps and you can see why this isn't a great idea.
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It's just one bad apple though... https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1669632410957258753
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