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armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts
Nevermind. I have been informed of the history of the Kubelwagen and what it did to my people in 1939

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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

armpit_enjoyer posted:

What's the opposite of a blobular object

kornerblicular

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



armpit_enjoyer posted:

Nevermind. I have been informed of the history of the Kubelwagen and what it did to my people in 1939

What did that thing do to you?

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


armpit_enjoyer posted:

Nevermind. I have been informed of the history of the Kubelwagen and what it did to my people in 1939

I have some bad news about the Bug, VW in general, and for that matter, Mercedes Benz.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Darchangel posted:

I have some bad news about the Bug, VW in general, and for that matter, Mercedes Benz.

Mercedes has a lot to answer for :argh:

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter

armpit_enjoyer posted:



Spotted the Kubelwagen again but this time I was able to get way up to the fence to snap a better picture. What an amazing friend shaped vehicle. What's the opposite of a blobular object

That is friend shaped! I love a nice thing.

armpit_enjoyer
Jan 25, 2023

my god. it's full of posts

Mustache Ride posted:

What did that thing do to you?

it was a stepping stone on the cause-and-effect chain which led to the creation of the saddest monument in all of poland if not the world:



some tourist website idk posted:

Estimates range from 120,000 to 170,000 people and included an estimated 30,000 who were interred or sent as forced labour elsewhere in the Reich. The others were sent south to the General Government area of Nazi-controlled Poland and typically were the women and children whose husbands and fathers were forced to work for the Nazis. Those that remained were subjected to Germanization programmes and many were later conscripted to fight in the German army. The homes and property left behind were taken over by Germans resettled in the city as the Germans fortified it as a Naval base and renamed the city Gotenhafen.

The statue depicts a mother, her son and daughter with nothing more than a suitcase walking in the direction of the railway station as the daughter reaches out to her dog which she has been forced to leave behind.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


There are a LOT of German companies still trading today, a lot of high end brands that have very questionable history... :dogstare:



*edit: I suppose he has at least one bit of good taste?

https://twitter.com/blakesley_/status/1669127765533024257?t=CENiofEe8QZnC62DgkV0Bg&s=19

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jun 15, 2023

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Olympic Mathlete posted:

There are a LOT of German companies still trading today, a lot of high end brands that have very questionable history... :dogstare:



*edit: I suppose he has at least one bit of good taste?

https://twitter.com/blakesley_/status/1669127765533024257?t=CENiofEe8QZnC62DgkV0Bg&s=19

Asking a german company that is older than 80 years what it did in the 30s and 40s is a very easy way to see some embarassed and sheepish faces.

The nazis heavily favored businesses and industries that were friendly to or shared the same 'values' as the party. If you wrerent, well

Practically no large business that wasnt survived that time.

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Jun 15, 2023

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Asking a german company that is older than 80 years what it did in the 30s and 40s is a very easy way to see some embarassed and sheepish faces.


Plenty of non German buisnesses get very sheepish when asked about their Nazi collaboration too.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

I was in Germany the final 2.5 weeks of the world cup, in uh, 2014 maybe? I remember cheering for Mexico against the Netherlands and getting some very stern looks. Texas and Mexico share a border after all. Anyways

All of a sudden German flags started sprouting out of houses and walls and pub entrances, almost like you drove into a very conservative American suburb but German instead of American flags, but it was the whole country

It was explained to me by a long time German friend somewhere south of Manheim that basically, after the whole Nazi thing, Germans are pretty shy about showing their national pride, but for like three weeks, in the lead up to their world cup win, all caution was thrown to the wind and I probably saw in a handful of days more German flags than I'll ever see for the rest of my life

Anyways yeah TL;DR Germans are very aware of their heritage and won't generally broach the subject but will politely discuss it when pressed, particularly by Americans, in my experience

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Asking a german company that is older than 80 years what it did in the 30s and 40s is a very easy way to see some embarassed and sheepish faces.

The nazis heavily favored businesses and industries that were friendly to or shared the same 'values' as the party. If you wrerent, well

Practically no large business that wasnt survived that time.

I was at the Paris Retromobile show one year and there was a VAG stand with loads of cars from their heritage fleet. Notably on the Volkswagen stand the timeline running around the upper perimeter started in 1947 with "The Volkswagen enters full civilian production". Entirely true, but rather decontextualised...

Not quite as egregious as the Skoda timeline which jumped from "1934 - The new Skoda Superb is introduced, being regarded as one of the finest luxury saloons of Europe" to "1991 - Skoda Auto is acquired by the Volkswagen Group".

BalloonFish fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jun 15, 2023

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
We regret to inform you the Kubelwagen is racist.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
That's basically all companies that were in the war on the losing side, Mitsubishi doesn't acknowledge that they ever made planes. At least Fiat says that they made war materials, but doesn't say anything about them largely being the backbone of the mechanized Italian war machine

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

The Door Frame posted:

That's basically all companies that were in the war on the losing side, Mitsubishi doesn't acknowledge that they ever made planes. At least Fiat says that they made war materials, but doesn't say anything about them largely being the backbone of the mechanized Italian war machine

That's because the "mechanized Italian war machine" was pretty much a clown car. No one want's to be associated with it for any reason.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Deteriorata posted:

That's because the "mechanized Italian war machine" was pretty much a clown car. No one want's to be associated with it for any reason.

I think they did a lot to sabotage the war effort, they should be proud

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


The Door Frame posted:

I think they did a lot to sabotage the war effort, they should be proud

LOL

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Went to a car meet today

Clownshoes


Racing Ford Galaxie



Pagoda(?)


Ascona. Did this ever have a US or AUS equivalent?


Coupe


Big Caddy


Stangs



GM partsbin specials:


Volvos


Squeezed in there:


Awesome old Toyota

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

evobatman posted:

Went to a car meet today

Ascona. Did this ever have a US or AUS equivalent?


Several. It was built on the GM J body

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

joat mon posted:

Several. It was built on the GM J body

that looks like an Ascona B, which was never available in the US. the J body was the Ascona C

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

evobatman posted:

Ascona. Did this ever have a US or AUS equivalent?


Australia had the Holden Torana, which had a little Ascona A DNA mixed in via the Vauxhall Viva it was originally based on, but really was a totally different car, even if some models look visually close.

The later Holden Camira was much closer to the Ascona C and it's American J body cousins. Aint seen one of those shitpiles in a long long long time.

ili
Jul 26, 2003


There wouldn't be any Camiras left on the roads would there? The ones my mates had back in the 90s were falling apart even then, near 30 years later nothing would remain except memories of that spider web cracked dash cluster which looked really cool when you were high as a kite.

St_Ides
May 19, 2008

The Door Frame posted:

That's basically all companies that were in the war on the losing side, Mitsubishi doesn't acknowledge that they ever made planes.

Mitsubishi still makes planes.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


St_Ides posted:

Mitsubishi still makes planes.


The Spacejet boondoggle killed their aircraft division a few months ago.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Powershift posted:

The Spacejet boondoggle killed their aircraft division a few months ago.

They used to make zeroes, now they make zero.

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


This is the greatest Ford hot rod ever built and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.
The Nelson Race Engine T66 turbos are inside the headlight buckets.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuDHHK8kbXU

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Australia had the Holden Torana, which had a little Ascona A DNA mixed in via the Vauxhall Viva it was originally based on, but really was a totally different car, even if some models look visually close.

The later Holden Camira was much closer to the Ascona C and it's American J body cousins. Aint seen one of those shitpiles in a long long long time.

That car in the photo you quoted is actually more the Holden Gemini rather than the Torana.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

That car in the photo you quoted is actually more the Holden Gemini rather than the Torana.



Looks closer, but the Gemini equivalent was the Kadett C, not Ascona.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Looks closer, but the Gemini equivalent was the Kadett C, not Ascona.

Christ, the Opel captive imports are confusing sometimes.

We got the Ascona coupe as the Opel 1900, by Buick. GM also sold the Manta, Sportwagon, and GT through Buick dealerships.

The only real success GM had with captive import Opel/Vauxhalls was with the Kadett. Kadett A sold in very small numbers in North America, as an Opel in the US and a Vauxhall in Canada. Kadett B did far better, with over 400,000 imported and sold by Buick. GM's 1st gen global "T-cars" (Kadett C and friends) performed even better. The Chevrolet Chevette was produced domestically and we also got the Isuzu Gemini, first marketed as the Opel by Isuzu, then the Buick Opel. GM skipped Kadett D for NA, with the Chevette's replacement here being a Daewoo LeMans (Kadett E) rebadged as a Pontiac for the US and either the Asüna SE/GT or Passport Optima for Canada.

The Kadetts were never especially loved by Americans, although they sold fairly well from Kadett B on. The Daewoo's were actively hated.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
I had a friend who drove the Kadett from 84 or 82 maybe unti 2 years ago. He was driving it due to poverty, got it as inheritance from his grand dad. Until it became too unreliable and it was never reliable. But it was well enough taken care of technically to be granted a veteran license by inspections. No rust despite 40 years on salted roads. Extreme diy maintenance, as he said he was simply too poor to have the car get destroyed from rust.

Still managed to get 2k for it which is a fortune for him.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

His Divine Shadow posted:

I had a friend who drove the Kadett from 84 or 82 maybe unti 2 years ago. He was driving it due to poverty, got it as inheritance from his grand dad. Until it became too unreliable and it was never reliable. But it was well enough taken care of technically to be granted a veteran license by inspections. No rust despite 40 years on salted roads. Extreme diy maintenance, as he said he was simply too poor to have the car get destroyed from rust.

Still managed to get 2k for it which is a fortune for him.

My Summer Car is a documentary.

The Kadetts we got were not horrible little things, for the price. Our Chevette, in particular, was well known as a poverty ride and you could keep them running forever with very little investment of money. Your time was your own, but nothing about them was very difficult to fix. For most jobs, they gave you a decent amount of room to work for such a small car.

Slow, with a lovely ride, just as reliable as any other small American car, and ugly as sin. They could carry quite a bit of poo poo, tow a lawn tractor on a trailer, and were cheap. By the time my friends and I got ahold of them in the mid 90s, the survivors were either constantly falling apart or pretty much guaranteed to run without trouble for 25,000 miles before something broke. Out of the maybe five we all hosed with I don't think they cost more than $500 each. Repairs equal $250, run it until the wheels fall of and buy something better.

Few survive. Cars fare well here, with an average mileage of 10,000/year driven, no salt or sand, and a generally humble population that doesn't care if their car is new, just that it works. There's an old dude that comes by my work twice a week rocking an '83 Chevette base model 3-door. Owned since '87, he calls it his "little mule". Looks like rear end, but just keeps running plodding along.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

BuckyDoneGun posted:

Australia had the Holden Torana, which had a little Ascona A DNA mixed in via the Vauxhall Viva it was originally based on, but really was a totally different car, even if some models look visually close.

The later Holden Camira was much closer to the Ascona C and it's American J body cousins. Aint seen one of those shitpiles in a long long long time.

GM had a weird phase in the early 1970s where it began trying to rationalise its major overseas operations by giving them the same design brief and making them use the same floor pan but still letting them fulfill the brief independently. So the Opel Ascona A, Vauxhall FE Victor and Holden Torana LH all look similar and sit on the same floor but have almost entirely non-interchangable exterior body panels, drivetrains and suspension. The Vauxhall (in Ventora spec) and the Holden even had similar-but-different 3.3-litre straight six engines, which were also very similar in design (both stemming from Chevy motors) but with different dimensions.

After that came 'Opelisation' and the global GM platforms like the T-, U- and J-cars.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Fun at any size!

https://i.imgur.com/tSjY13R.mp4

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005


Wonder how he has his legs crunched in there.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
I saw a new Prius on the road yesterday and goddamn that is a good looking car

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


phosdex posted:

Wonder how he has his legs crunched in there.

That was my question. I fit about the same in NAs.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Just-In-Timeberlake posted:

I saw a new Prius on the road yesterday and goddamn that is a good looking car

Good news

Joe Mama
May 10, 2008

He HAS to have the body-to-leg proportions of a gorilla.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?


New mario kart looking realistic

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



That is 100% me when I was driving a mates Mazda around.

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