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HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Christ he posted loving Andrew Tate praising?

Yikes. But I guess not surprised.
Yeah it was like an immediate confession that everything we thought we knew about him from his channel was bullshit, like "if the world were still a sane place like it was in the past a man like Andrew Tate would be seen as a leader, not banned from social media." It was like literally jaw-droppingly obsequious and vile

pogue23
Aug 15, 2002

Son, I am disappoint.

Man I hope whomever shot that RPG had the time to turn around and walk confidently away from the explosion and then take off his sunglasses..

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/historicfirearm/status/1670389457361551360?t=7jtQQiMdkGsdIjTyJAmS3Q&s=19

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009


Freaked out for a second thinking the drone gun was a H&K G-11. :blush:

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

The special effects on House were always hit or miss

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA

The_Franz posted:

I'm guessing it's NFKRZ.

Thanks! :)

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005





literally :blyat:

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


Alan Smithee posted:

i get this joke even less after googling it

Cobra Assault Cannons come from Robocop.

Clarence Boddicker is the name of one of the villains who uses said C.A.C.s

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
It showed me Steven universe or some poo poo

Scam Likely
Feb 19, 2021

How do anti-drone guns work? Do they fire bullets or do they use some weird electromagnetic tech?

forest spirit
Apr 6, 2009

Frigate Hetman Sahaidachny
First to Fight Scuttle, First to Fall Sink


Pretty sure it's just a directional emp, so that the drone goes into "off course, land now" mode. Drones are small and ubiquitous now so having an emp you can lug around is useful vs having a giant fuckoff thing on a vehicle for taking down the drones that are the size of small airplanes

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Anti-drone weapons basically fire a directed jamming signal at them and like forest spirit said, it forces the drone into whatever failsafe behavior it has for when it loses signal, or else it just crashes.

https://www.911security.com/blog/anti-drone-technology-what-they-do-and-how-they-work

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Need to design a drone that just locks on to jamming signals and flys into them with a spicy package.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

You guys remember in call of duty 2 when you're playing as the Russian campaign in the first mission and you're throwing potatoes as grenade practice. Yeah the new Russian friend you're throwing potatoes the entire time and they're telling you they're grenades

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde
That over-pressure from the shockwave.... that would have to have hurt the dude firing that ATGM/RPG surely....?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 5 days!)

Never mind the tank itself just became 30 tons of shrapnel

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

Cable Guy posted:

That over-pressure from the shockwave.... that would have to have hurt the dude firing that ATGM/RPG surely....?

Probably, yes.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

You guys remember in call of duty 2 when you're playing as the Russian campaign in the first mission and you're throwing potatoes as grenade practice. Yeah the new Russian friend you're throwing potatoes the entire time and they're telling you they're grenades

core memory unlocked

gently caress COD2 was revolutionary in 2005. remains one of my favorite FPS that i've played even now. There was some really creative game design in it that took great advantage of the next-gen tech of 2005. When I was 15 and saw that demoed on an Xbox 360 in Walmart that literally sold the console for me right then and there

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Cable Guy posted:

That over-pressure from the shockwave.... that would have to have hurt the dude firing that ATGM/RPG surely....?

That or the tank that just became hyper-speed shrapnel. Anyone in that treeline had a bad day

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I am assured it deals 33% damage to all vehicles in range but leaves infantry unharmed.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prv3wl3X9O4

sums up latest updates of assaults on russian lines using himars and storm shadows, along with a few haarms. the 80th brigade's commander was liquidated by a storm shadow

https://kyivindependent.com/counteroffensive-underway-one-captured-position-at-a-time/

Counteroffensive underway: 'We overestimated Russians and underestimated ourselves' posted:

Editor’s Note: The Kyiv Independent introduces soldiers interviewed for the story by their first names or callsigns due to security reasons.

DONETSK OBLAST – Islam’s mind was empty of thoughts and feelings as he crawled carefully towards the Russian trenches near Siversk, with grenades prepared.

“You crawl forward and you look carefully,” said the soldier from the 81st Airmobile Brigade days later, after he and his platoon took the positions, several dozen kilometers north of Bakhmut, without losses. “You don’t think about anything, only how to get in there.”

The Russians failed to notice the stealthy Ukrainians until the attackers’ grenades went into the trench. The platoon from the 81st then went in by twos and threes, starting a vicious, close-range firefight with the enemy group.

Many of the Russian troops ran away after being taken by surprise. Some remained in their dugouts, trying to shoot back. They ultimately surrendered but not without trouble — one Russian fighter yelled out “I surrender” right before throwing a grenade. Five prisoners were taken — three Russian national guardsmen and two proxy fighters from occupied Luhansk Oblast.

“There were two observation posts. All their communication was hanging on them,” said Sasha, the platoon commander. He identified his unit only as the 1st Platoon for security reasons. “The enemy didn’t even know that we had taken a third position towards the end of the operation. They didn’t know what was going on.”

The positions were tactically important, giving the Russians fire control and overwatch of much of the district. Supplies of arms and ammunition relied on these positions’ protection, and they hindered the movement of Ukrainian supplies through the area. A decision was made to take them in a sudden strike, giving the platoon two weeks to prepare.

“There was time to prepare, develop a bunch of options, pick the one that works for us and use it,” said Sasha. “Surprise was achieved.”

“What I liked about the assault — it’s said that you should never underestimate your enemy,” he went on. “In this assault, we overestimated their capabilities and underestimated ours.”

After Ukrainian forces took the three Russian positions they were ordered to capture, the Russians began to run away from the nearby positions as well. “If we’d known and prepared more people, we could have been occupying those positions too.”

The assault was just one little facet of Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive, which began around June 5.

After Russia’s attacks from late winter into mid-to-late spring didn’t make significant gains anywhere except the city of Bakhmut, Ukraine hopes to use Russia’s stalled drive to regain momentum, possibly pierce some lines and take back swathes of territory. Ukraine has set itself the goal of total liberation, including Crimea.

Ukrainian officials such as Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Malyar confirmed that counteroffensive operations are ongoing. Soldiers from the 81st and 57th Brigades have told the Kyiv Independent that Ukrainian forces are on the move, slowly advancing on the Russians in Donetsk Oblast.

About a dozen soldiers in front-line towns and in field positions said that recently, Russian forces have switched from constant prodding attacks to trying to entrench and defend the territories they had captured.

“Now they’re staying on the defensive, now they’re not advancing,” said Serhiy, a member of a drone scout unit attached to the 57th Motorized Brigade’s artillery unit. Ukrainian soldiers use the commercial DJI Mavic drones to locate specific Russian targets and send coordinates to the Acacia artillery gun operators.

“Now, we’re trying to advance,” said Serhiy. “Well, little by little, we’re taking back our lands, our positions.”

Though Ukrainian units are able to perform tactical operations like the 1st Platoon’s surprise night strike, the overall counteroffensive is unlikely to be as quick as the one that routed the Russian forces in Kharkiv Oblast in September, experts believe.

Despite the presence of elite, well-prepared and experienced brigades like the 81st and Ukraine’s recently-created assault guard brigades that contain many hardened veterans, Russians have had time to get well-prepared for the coming liberation onslaught.

Soldiers near Siversk said the Russians have been digging in like never before, making their trenches properly deep, unlike the shallow ditches they were relying on when they were on the offensive.

Russian forces have prepared extensive defenses, especially in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, where they’ve set up multiple lines dozens of kilometers deep. From Kharkiv Oblast through Luhansk Oblast, there’s a strong main line running down south. However, Russian defenses thin out behind Bakhmut, according to satellite maps of the area.

Russia made some of its most significant gains in the east thanks to the state-backed Wagner Group private army. Since then, there were two large troop rotations in the area, with Wagner troops giving way to regular forces, instead of being on the attack. Wagner has reportedly been tapped to prepare some of the incoming forces for combat.

“Over eight months here, we had Wagners, then there were two rotations,” said Sasha.

Kostiantyn, an artillery officer from the 57th said a similar thing — they once faced Wagner troops in their area, who were replaced by other units that were in turn replaced once more. He said that compared to Wagner, the Russian Defense Ministry’s troops have a “much lower level of preparedness and worse capabilities.”

Soldiers from the 81st would agree, saying that Wagner forces were properly prepared, had decent maps, good equipment like transportation and night vision and made extensive use of cryptography.

In contrast, regular forces and Donbas proxies tend to exchange unencrypted coordinates and intercepted communication reveals drunkenness and soldiers listening to music at forward positions.

“Typical working stiffs who got mobilized and sent somewhere,” Sasha said.

The other difference is in the fear and motivation these units’ commanders inspire. Forces like Wagner can threaten their men with being shot or sledgehammered for retreating, surrendering, or refusing to participate in an assault, however suicidal.

When Russian regular forces fled the 1st Platoon’s assault, the Ukrainians intercepted Russian communications in which the soldiers refused to go back to recapture the lost positions. There were rumors going around among the Russians that friendly artillery would hit them with a deadly chemical round. However, the regular military also tries to lean on threats of death when it can.

“You often hear — ‘if you don’t go in, you will be annulled,’” Sasha said, citing the Russian National Guard’s communications.

More frequently, Russians respond to losing their positions by blindly bombarding the area with artillery, Islam said.

Even so, the Russians’ overwhelming artillery advantage over the Ukrainians appears to be shrinking. Russian artillery shell expenditures once completely dwarfed Ukrainians’ but now, they’re rapidly approaching parity, multiple soldiers have said.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Just Another Lurker posted:

Freaked out for a second thinking the drone gun was a H&K G-11. :blush:

I thought the same thing for a second.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

Bald and Bankrupt now does “LOOK AT THIS SOCIALIST COUNTRY AND HOW DIRTY AND POOR AND HOMELESS THEY ARE” disingenuous clickbait videos and it’s hilarious seeing tankies post in support of him and how they somehow mentally square that circle. The other people I have seen watching his videos are dumbass zoomer twitch streamers who are completely clueless about what they’re seeing.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Bald is an Andrew Tate loving creepy sex tourist.

https://youtu.be/sJBW13WYMDY?t=415

https://youtu.be/ukk6RocFWnc

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
The stuff about Bald and Bankrupt came out in the first thread a day after the war had started. Is he still going?

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Say what you want about Andrew Tate but he has a real shiny head.

This has been my tate praise post for today.

Next, I will praise the huge restitutions he will be paying.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

I do hate that whatever sort of monstrous criminal you are, you can just gently caress off and travel the world funded by begging on social media. Even our ideas of what law is just aren't fit for purpose

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Law is national. Crime is global.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
That video of the very exploded tank seems like a successful attack by the Russians? I can't see how "blow up a bunch of mines and have a big boom right next to the Ukrainians line" wasn't the objective.

tiaz
Jul 1, 2004

PICK UP THAT PRESENT.


Zelensky's Zealots

a pipe smoking dog posted:

That video of the very exploded tank seems like a successful attack by the Russians? I can't see how "blow up a bunch of mines and have a big boom right next to the Ukrainians line" wasn't the objective.

sort of, in that yes it probably succeeded at harming Ukrainians, but at a pretty steep cost. using your tanks for VBIED delivery is expensive and unsustainable, and it would've been much more effective if it hadn't gotten stuck 100 meters away from the relevant lines.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

a pipe smoking dog posted:

That video of the very exploded tank seems like a successful attack by the Russians? I can't see how "blow up a bunch of mines and have a big boom right next to the Ukrainians line" wasn't the objective.

Using your tanks as a VBIED is a sign of desperation, it's an incredibly wasteful use of them to hit a handful of troops in a trench

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
You don't know that. We have no idea of the strength or numbers of Ukrainian troops in the treeline. One tank could easily be worth sacrificing for that. The Russian's certainly thought it was.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Funky See Funky Do posted:

You don't know that. We have no idea of the strength or numbers of Ukrainian troops in the treeline. One tank could easily be worth sacrificing for that. The Russian's certainly thought it was.
They also thought this war was a great idea so...

That said this certainly did do something and I sure as hell wouldn't want to be anywhere in that area.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
Zelensky was in the trench

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
The idea that they're throwing away tanks as car bombs just doesn't pass the sniff test. Are they out of trucks and less expensive armoured vehicles?

otoh I can think of three reasons why they'd pick a tank for this. 1: There's no way they're going to a wheeled vehicle, especially a truck, across that cratered terrain. 2: Tank is way more armoured and stands much more chance of making it to the target before it gets exploded. 3: Surprise! The tank was a actually bomb.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

Technically it was just the one tank.

Not tanks, plural.

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1670709934244151300?s=20

Piatykhatky, a tiny village 75 km north of Melitopol, has been liberated.

beer_war fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Jun 19, 2023

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Imo using an obsolete tank like a T54 as an IED to blow up a hole in enemy defenses would make sense as part of a larger assault on fortified positions, while infantry provides suppression to keep the defender's AT weapons out of action... But on its own? Strange.

Jasper Tin Neck
Nov 14, 2008


"Scientifically proven, rich and creamy."

mobby_6kl posted:

Is this where the distant explosion was seen earlier? The post says it was a known ammo dump for 8 years, so that's weird that they didn't take it out earlier.
Months, not years.

Deepstatemap has a handy tool for estimating ranges.

E.g. HIMARS couldn't touch the ammo dump at Rykove.


Storm Shadow, on the other hand, could and did.


It also demonstrates why destroying the Kerch bridge from current positions is a tall order, even if Ukraine were to receive ATACMS rockets.

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Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Unless there's a longer version all we know is what's happening in about 100x50m area of that battlefield for a little over a minute. There are no conclusions to be draw other than the Russians sent a tank packed with explosives towards Ukrainian lines and it blew up.

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