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Mr. Funny Pants posted:The video the CBS guy did made a point of them bragging that their submersible was the only one with a toilet - one of those hospital bottles you pee in if you can't get out of bed. I know them well, used them extensively when I was in the hospital in March with a kidney stone. Poop I believe was handled with a large zip-lock bag. Yeah reading a similar post in the dailyfail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...y-concerns.html I wouldn't have done it if it was certified looking at it... but the history of it's build, jeez, you'd have thought mega rich business men would have done due diligence
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The toilet specifically overlooks the underspecced window There's a small chance one of the billionaires who paid to poo poo over the titanic was hit in the face by a Death Laser of Water, while smugly making GBS threads.
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Outrail posted:Here's a countdown timer for the economic stimulus trigger, if you need it. He'll spend it all in a blink 182
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It doesn't even have a window? I'm disgusted that these guys actually went down to that depth instead of just scamming the customers. Take it down to where it gets dark, make some brum brum noises for a few hours and then play around with the controller while watching a video pretending to explore the wreck. Absolutely no commitment to capitalism, how'd they even become billionaires without learning to scam?
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Tunicate posted:He'll spend it all in a blink 182 You know blink 182 keep coming up in the story. They better have a drat good alibi is all I'll say. 
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Project M.A.M.I.L. posted:It doesn't even have a window? I'm disgusted that these guys actually went down to that depth instead of just scamming the customers. Take it down to where it gets dark, make some brum brum noises for a few hours and then play around with the controller while watching a video pretending to explore the wreck. Absolutely no commitment to capitalism, how'd they even become billionaires without learning to scam? It has a window, that is rated for a third of the depth of Titanic.
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Platystemon posted:It has a window, that is rated for a third of the depth of Titanic. Had a window.
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Jun 20, 2023 23:56
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so somebody finally had the balls to make a deep sea submersible out of carbon fiber eh? my hats off to them somebody should alert the media that when it imploded it shattered into a million pieces instead of going on with the crushed tin can visual https://oceangate.com/news-and-media/blog/2019-0221-why-titan-is-not-classed.html quote:OceanGate’s submersibles are the only known vessels to use real-time (RTM) hull health monitoring. With this RTM system, we can determine if the hull is compromised well before situations become life-threatening, and safely return to the surface. This innovative safety system is not currently covered by any classing agency. what is the active hull health monitoring system? a couple of strain gauges slapped on the thing? love a company that hand waives doing standardized tests in favor of their 'better' system, (but won't tell you what it is)
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some guy in Florida built a better submarine than Titan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUOHjON9RVg
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Between this and the sicko who murdered that poor reporter, are all mini-sub inventors bloodthirsty monsters
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The ocean is the most dangerous and unexplored place you can get to without strapping a million pounds of explosives to your rear end AND it has way more "monsters" than outer space. It attracts a certain sort of person.
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Desert Bus posted:AND it has way more "monsters" than outer space. It attracts a certain sort of person.  pirates
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:
My second favorite genre is lovely space pirate sci-fi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodacious_Space_Pirates
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fallingdownjoe posted:Had a window.
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In pronunciation there isn't a lot of difference between porthole and portal. In practice however...
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ethanol posted:what is the active hull health monitoring system? a couple of strain gauges slapped on the thing? love a company that hand waives doing standardized tests in favor of their 'better' system, (but won't tell you what it is) 18 strain gages, yeah.
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MisterOblivious posted:18 strain gages, yeah. calling it now, death by fatigued composite
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Desert Bus posted:The ocean is the most dangerous and unexplored place you can get to without strapping a million pounds of explosives to your rear end AND it has way more "monsters" than outer space. It attracts a certain sort of person. I'm not sure how true that is, they lost a few Saturn V upper stages back in the day and when they orbited back around to earth in the 00s they were spotted and sciency people were able to figure out that it was covered in titanium oxide paint through a telescope.
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nomad2020 posted:I'm not sure how true that is, they lost a few Saturn V upper stages back in the day and when they orbited back around to earth in the 00s they were spotted and sciency people were able to figure out that it was covered in titanium oxide paint through a telescope. True.
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ethanol posted:so somebody finally had the balls to make a deep sea submersible out of carbon fiber eh? my hats off to them Their better system is an acoustic monitor that listens for the sounds of the carbon fiber hull material breaking down from excessive strain. Which would probably give the crew less than a second's warning before a catastrophic failure.
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ethanol posted:calling it now, death by fatigued composite Well, that or the porthole that wasn't certified to the Titanic's depth because building a proper one was too expensive. 1300m certified porthole Titanic is at 3800m MisterOblivious fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Oh god.quote:The P8 deployed sonobuoys, which reported a contact in a position close to the distress position. The P8 heard banging sounds in the area every 30 minutes. Four hours later additional sonar was deployed and banging was still heard. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/titanic-submersible-missing-searchers-heard-banging-1234774674/
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Ah, I see we're in the "suffocate slowly before they can be found" timeline
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The more I hear about this billionaire submarine debacle the more I realize it’s just Fyre Island: Underwater Edition
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ethanol posted:what is the active hull health monitoring system? a couple of strain gauges slapped on the thing? love a company that hand waives doing standardized tests in favor of their 'better' system, (but won't tell you what it is) https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/14df37k/titanic_tourist_sub_goes_missing_sparking_search/joqfaso/?context=3 posted:They never even setup the software properly to use the hull health monitoring system. It's a bunch of transducers glued into the hull. I worked at oceangate for six months before I left figuring they were going to get someone killed.
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PostNouveau posted:Ah, I see we're in the "suffocate slowly before they can be found" timeline They're gonna shine a camera into the porthole and they'll either be loving or eating eachother.
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quote:They never even setup the software properly to use the hull health monitoring system. It's a bunch of transducers glued into the hull. I worked at oceangate for six months before I left figuring they were going to get someone killed. quote:I worked for oceangate when they found the damage to the hull. It wasnt cyclic failure, it was a giant delamination or dry pocket from manufacturing in the carbon fiber. Nearly 6ft long and 5ft wide and nearly a quarter inch thick. It was absolutely massive. I should know, I helped cut the dead material out. Quit right after that happened because rather than test or scan the sub, they arbitrarily said ok it can only go this far down now.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Oh god. Do you suppose they have a good dehumidifier system in there? 5 guys exhaling and sweating in that tiny space would make things pretty damp after a day or two. Did they bring enough pee bottles to stay down this long? Really stewing in their own juices down there. Feel bad for the rescuers who have to pop open that capsule.
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Outrail posted:They're gonna shine a camera into the porthole and they'll either be loving or eating eachother. Well they did report hearing banging sounds 
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Facebook Aunt posted:Did they bring enough pee bottles to stay down this long? You don’t pee if you aren’t drinking.
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Zesty posted:You don’t pee if you aren’t drinking. you can drink the pee a couple of times for hydration before it becomes toxic, in a pinch. it's the poo poo that's really making it special down there
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Facebook Aunt posted:Feel bad for the rescuers who have to pop open that capsule. Who knows, though, maybe some other rich adventurer will want to try.
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Best case for survival, they are floating on the surface somewhere and get found in time. The sub is white and that’s a pretty hard color to see in the ocean. They have no transponder despite considering it after their last close call, nor they they have an emergency escape option. They’re pretty likely to suffocate. If they’re stuck down deep for whatever reason, there’s no chance for the reasons listed in the post above mine. They’ll run out of air and eventually the sub will corrode enough to implode. Recovering bodies isn’t realistic or all that worthwhile after the air thing. And they could have imploded already because the thing is made out of gum and duct tape. Those are the options. Zesty fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Elukka posted:Not sure it's likely anyone will ever recover this. There's no vehicle made for this job, so as far as I can figure it'd be some risky improvised deal with another submersible not made for it trying to somehow manipulate this one that is also not made for it. I'm not feeling optimistic this could be done before they're dead, and interest in putting in all that effort will wane once it's about recovering corpses. Basically this, unless there is some super secret US Navy tech to scoop them up off the bottom they are dead already even if currently still breathing. If a rescue effort is mounted I hope no one else has to put their lives on the line. Unless it's like the Onion suggested and it's another sub full of billionaires then sure lol.
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Now is the time to let Musk use his own custom sub for an ill-advised rescue. Please let him do it....
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Musk is a goddamned loving idiot but at least he says he would never get in one of his ships to go to Mars.
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If we all tweet at Elon can we bully him into taking a minisub directly into the abyss? A goon project to benefit the entire world.
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Is there any failure-at-depth scenario that doesn't end with them imploded? The one article mentioned a "dead-man's switch" that would automatically release the sandbag ballast after a day or so. But even if that worked, they'd be non-buoyant if full of water, yeah?
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Send musk down in that capsule he built for the cave kids
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They painted it white. Either they never thought about the need for a surface rescue or they didn't care. Like fluro orange or something. Also having a satellite phone/spot tracker or you know, something might have been a good idea. My dinky 4 person company has better safety procedures and we have, let me check for a moment, yeah zero billionaires funding out poo poo.
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