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You can usually replace that thing with a simple RCA to coax plug adapter nowadays, since most of the time you won’t have an actual cable box competing with the console for the jack on the TV. Way easier to source and a lot cheaper.
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I refuse to believe that works.
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When I bought my last bedroom TV, I had to search for a while to find one with the inputs I wanted. Insignia sold one in c. 2018 with a coaxial input. No idea if they still do now.
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TVs still have coax for hooking up antennas, but as flavor.flv noted above, newer TVs won't know what to do with an analog signal over it.
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mlnhd posted:I refuse to believe that works. It worked as recently as 14 years ago but mileage may vary apparently.  I only ever used them with CRTs to be honest, so the digital switchover wasn’t really a problem I had to think about.
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Jun 21, 2023 02:09
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Dip Viscous posted:TVs still have coax for hooking up antennas, but as flavor.flv noted above, newer TVs won't know what to do with an analog signal over it. There were digital-to-analog coax in, coax out converters a while back to accommodate SDTV owners with antennas after the digital switchover but I can't find any new ones for sale now.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:There were digital-to-analog coax in, coax out converters a while back to accommodate SDTV owners with antennas after the digital switchover but I can't find any new ones for sale now. A search for "ATSC converter" pulls some up. I've got one hooked up to my gaming CRT as a novelty.
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Useful enough, I also realized that I got the conversion backwards. oh well
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drat. My cousin gifted me his Socrates when I was a kid. I just retrieved it fromy parents' a few weeks back and thought about having my kids suffer through it as I did.
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Did anyone else have a VTECH Video Painter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLsZqq_to0g My mom used to have a really strange hang up about video games when I was growing up but let us have one of these. I spent way too much time drawing random poo poo on this thing.
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Dip Viscous posted:TVs still have coax for hooking up antennas, but as flavor.flv noted above, newer TVs won't know what to do with an analog signal over it. Hold up, then how do I have my Atari 2600 hooked up to my (new) TV via the coax jack?
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Xenomrph posted:Hold up, then how do I have my Atari 2600 hooked up to my (new) TV via the coax jack? Wanna bet a lot of new TVs have analog tuners because they use boards originally designed back when it was necessary, and they've either never changed the design or have like 40 000 000 000 of them in stock? E: also huge parts of the world have analog broadcasts. It's just easier for the factory to build all the same model for a global market. 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 03:20 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Wanna bet a lot of new TVs have analog tuners because they use boards originally designed back when it was necessary, and they've either never changed the design or have like 40 000 000 000 of them in stock? Yep, just got it working by plugging it directly into my TV's coax lmao
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If a TV still supports composite video I'm not sure why it wouldn't support NTSC over RF given that composite is just NTSC baseband video.
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Maybe it's just locked out through firmware or something, but I've never gotten it to work on any HDTV I've had.
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The mid-80s equivalent of PassMark
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ExcessBLarg! posted:If a TV still supports composite video I'm not sure why it wouldn't support NTSC over RF given that composite is just NTSC baseband video. That's the funny thing, mine doesn't have composite input so it was coax or nothing (unless there's some crazy, probably expensive, way to convert to HDMI I guess).
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drat, I could actually really use one of those. I'd love to get this puppy going again 
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Dip Viscous posted:Maybe it's just locked out through firmware or something, but I've never gotten it to work on any HDTV I've had. this is a genuine bummer. i've held on to some dumb hope that folks could still use some aluminum foil on wire to tune in for their game or whatever once a week. but it really doesnt seem like a thing anymore
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ExcessBLarg! posted:If a TV still supports composite video I'm not sure why it wouldn't support NTSC over RF given that composite is just NTSC baseband video. because that would require an RF tuner, but I doubt most modern TVs would have.
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Porfiriato posted:The mid-80s equivalent of PassMark
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If anyone has a basic interpreter on a modern machine, please enter that in and run it because I want to see all the 0s.
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Lady Radia posted:folks could still use some aluminum foil on wire to tune in for their game or whatever once a week.  You pretty much still can. If you make your own Gray-Hovermann its just a bunch of wire bent in a certain way.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Did anyone else have a VTECH Video Painter? My aunt got my younger brother one for Christmas back in the day. We, too, used the hell out of it.
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Lowen SoDium posted:because that would require an RF tuner, but I doubt most modern TVs would have. Most TVs have RF tuners for digital cable or digital over the air TV. Adding analog functionality is only a bunch of code away if it's a software defined tuner. flavor.flv posted:drat, I could actually really use one of those. I'd love to get this puppy going again They're still available pretty easily 2nd hand and from old stock, but if you feel like DIY'ing you can make one yourself: https://www.onetransistor.eu/2015/10/wideband-antenna-matching-transformer.html
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Porfiriato posted:The mid-80s equivalent of PassMark You know this is serious poo poo since it uses Crillee, the same font also used in the credits of Star Trek: The Next Generation.
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Porfiriato posted:The mid-80s equivalent of PassMark Spectrums are suprisingly low. It had a faster CPU than C64, so this benchmark measures more the quality of the built-in BASIC than computer performance.
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Maybe, but when your code runs on top of a basic interpreter that you're stuck with you may as well consider that part of the hardware performance
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Sentient Data posted:Maybe, but when your code runs on top of a basic interpreter that you're stuck with you may as well consider that part of the hardware performance Depends on how easy it is to write assembly for it, I guess?
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lobsterminator posted:Spectrums are suprisingly low. It had a faster CPU than C64, so this benchmark measures more the quality of the built-in BASIC than computer performance. The Spectrum's Basic interpreter was optimised for size rather than speed, which makes sense as it's descended from ZX80 Basic, which had to fit in a 4K ROM.
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Makes sense how so many game developers found creative ways to unload the built in BASIC from RAM to make the most of the hardware.
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Sentient Data posted:Maybe, but when your code runs on top of a basic interpreter that you're stuck with you may as well consider that part of the hardware performance But very few actual programs you'd use were BASIC. It was more just a loader that you used to load machine language programs and do some own programming, maybe. Pretty much all professional games and applications were machine language.
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Bargearse posted:Makes sense how so many game developers found creative ways to unload the built in BASIC from RAM to make the most of the hardware. Some systems required creative ways to do that? Must've sucked.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Some systems required creative ways to do that? Must've sucked. Yeah that would have sucked hard, if my family didn’t already have an Amiga 2000 with SCSI hard card and RAM expansion, which didn’t require such arcane rituals.
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Bargearse posted:Yeah that would have sucked hard, if my family didn’t already have an Amiga 2000 with SCSI hard card and RAM expansion, which didn’t require such arcane rituals. I mean, the Commodore 64 which was fairly popular, didn't require arcane rituals for it.
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Does anyone make a DOS/Win3.1/95/98 era disk wiping program that is appropriate for the hardware of vintage computers? ideally one that boots from floppy? My understanding is that things like DBAN are too new to boot from floppy, and I need something that will overwrite an entire disk.
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Is the objective to use the antique hardware to do the wiping as an exercise or do you actually just want to wipe the data? Just move the drive to a modern machine to wipe it using whatever cheap hardware adapters you need.
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Lowen SoDium posted:because that would require an RF tuner, but I doubt most modern TVs would have. Your UHF knob is no longer FFC compliant!
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EL BROMANCE posted:If anyone has a basic interpreter on a modern machine, please enter that in and run it because I want to see all the 0s. code:
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Beve Stuscemi posted:Does anyone make a DOS/Win3.1/95/98 era disk wiping program that is appropriate for the hardware of vintage computers? ideally one that boots from floppy? 98 overlaps with the first linux live-cds. They might have come with a copy of erase, which was the default att iirc. And with bootfloppies to chainload the cd from there.
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