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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They're handles with built in LED strips designed for RVs. I was just trying to find this exact thing, thanks - so they are definitely not designed to be used as a single stabilizing point for up to three people to hang out of in rough ocean conditions.
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There. Whole loving tomb-sub in a nutshell.
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Pookah posted:I was just trying to find this exact thing, thanks - so they are definitely not designed to be used as a single stabilizing point for up to three people to hang out of in rough ocean conditions. You can't have too much stuff in the way of people rolling around, as rolling around in the sub to get it to swing is the sole way of controlling the release of ballast
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steinrokkan posted:You can't have too much stuff in the way of people rolling around, as rolling around in the sub to get it to swing is the sole way of controlling the release of ballast  I forgot about the ES-MRM (emergency scrap-metal release maneuver)
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Just under the surface No gps Spinning in a tumbling formation With the awkward hand holds and laptop mount in the way Whoa
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Skippy McPants posted:Dang, comparing Limiting Factor's pressure hull to the Titan's paints a pretty stark contrast. Heck with that, compare their dive weight release mechanisms:  a bunch of expensive precision gizmos, probably 2x redundant  not pictured: all the people in the sub leaning against one side, rocking back and forth to work that rusty hook off the rusty eyelet
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steinrokkan posted:You can't have too much stuff in the way of people rolling around, as rolling around in the sub to get it to swing is the sole way of controlling the release of ballast I can't get over that bit. A part of my brain still can't quite credit it. Like people had this explained to them and were still "Sounds fine, Titanic here we come!"
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They're handles with built in LED strips designed for RVs.  much more tasteful and cheaper too
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Black Sunshine posted:Is there a website up yet that has a countdown timer for when they run out of oxygen? I think some goon made this yesterday. https://countingdownto.com/?c=4831670 21 hours and 23 minutes left!
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frumpykvetchbot posted:is there a spare for the wireless controller? what is it connected to? It seems to me that their "philosophy" was to consider everything that wasn't the pressure hull, or weight release mechanisms, "not safety critical". Which is moronic, because while you might be right 90% of the time, the other 10% where you need thrust to get out of a sticky situation will kill you. But if that's their underlying philosophy, I see why they didn't bother with redundancy, hardening, testing etc. Of course, if your assumption of what should be considered safety critical is _wrong_, or you _also_ fail to properly assess the few components even you consider to be safety critical, well, it's the 100ms juicero for you, sport.
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William Bear posted:I think some goon made this yesterday. interesting write up, fantastic font formatting :whatthechrist: 
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William Bear posted:I think some goon made this yesterday. Does this include any variables, such as the oxygen depletion if one of them has spent the last 16 hours hysterically screaming?
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William Bear posted:I think some goon made this yesterday. Don't worry; they packed plenty of cans of Perriair to use if the oxygen supply starts to dwindle.
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frumpykvetchbot posted:is there a spare for the wireless controller? what is it connected to? Sounds like a lot of unnecessary liberal mumbo jumbo to me
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kalleth posted:It seems to me that their "philosophy" was to consider everything that wasn't the pressure hull, or weight release mechanisms, "not safety critical". I don't think they considered the pressure hull or the window or an emergency escape to be safety critical either.
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Oxygen Not Included is on sale this week https://store.steampowered.com/app/457140/Oxygen_Not_Included/
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kalleth posted:It seems to me that their "philosophy" was to consider everything that wasn't the pressure hull, or weight release mechanisms, "not safety critical". They directly said their design philosophy is "most accidents are caused by human error, so don't bother trying to accident-proof the hardware". Groversub posted:The vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure. As a result, simply focusing on classing the vessel does not address the operational risks. Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification. Dumbest loving thing I've ever seen.
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William Bear posted:I think some goon made this yesterday. Nice
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Klyith posted:They directly said their design philosophy is "most accidents are caused by human error, so don't bother trying to accident-proof the hardware". But their design team is recent college grads.... concerning
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Funky See Funky Do posted:It's designed to stand up to a 16yo throwing it. They forgot to pack extra batteries.
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Lampsacus posted:Just remembered the kid who was dared off his graduation party boat. Is this the year of ocean water terror? You forgot man who got chomped on by a giant tiger shark in Egpyt caught on camera.
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Ralph Crammed In posted:What is gonna happen to corpses in an oxygen less environment that is presumably free ish from the things that help to decompose bodies?
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Groversub posted: The vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure. As a result, simply focusing on classing the vessel does not address the operational risks. Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification. Apparently they could only maintain a constant, committed effort for 1 hr and 45 mins.
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Butterwagon posted:But their design team is recent college grads.... concerning Third party design reviews are a waste of time and money when you can just browbeat a 22 year old employee into signing off on the crayon blueprints.
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BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:Third party design reviews are a waste of time and money when you can just browbeat a 22 year old employee into signing off on the crayon blueprints. Fiverr-rear end submersible
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Death By SnuSnu posted:Groversub posted: Comet Airlines could not be reached for comment
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frumpykvetchbot posted:is there a spare for the wireless controller? what is it connected to? Unironically, I had all of these thoughts and a hundred more when I looked at their "design". There are low-tech solutions that can work, but everything here reeked of "how hard could it be?" It's the kind of deep sea submersible I would build in my back yard and maybe get a write-up on some pop sci website. There's been no concessions to safety or usability, it's all half-assed.
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William Bear posted:I think some goon made this yesterday. Well goddamn, thanks lol
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zedprime posted:The same thing that happens to all bodies. Carcinization comes for us all, some more directly than others. 
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