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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Ceterum censeo gently caress the police

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

History Comes Inside! posted:

Is cash cab still on

I’d rather have a go in the cash cab



I think the faketaxi is also the cash cab you just have to do a bit of work for it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I don't care how much you pay me I'm not fuckin' that guy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Albinator posted:

I hope the thread will not mind me marking the passing of noted lefty historian - and also my dad - Willie Thompson. He wrote a book or two that some might be interested in (NB, if you see Google calling him a Northern Irish Unionist politician, that was some other fucker).

I am sorry to hear about your seemingly very cool da.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Pablo Bluth posted:

They almost certainly have arrested people who were generating the streams (fpr profit) and not those watching them,

The only time I can think of it coming up was a sort of hybrid example seen below.

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/joshua-boxing-facebook-sky-klitschko-14127413

(Basically the guy got an illegal stream of a boxing match. But his drunk mate started livestreaming the illegal stream.)

Now that is such a fringe case that it can be judged on it's own merits.

There is an interesting legal debate about if streaming actually meets the legal definition of theft.
My understanding is that under Irish law streaming (but not file downloading) doesn't meet the requirements as you can't be shown that you intended to deprive the (copyright) owner of their product.
But due to some change in English law (the exact change I'm not aware what it is), streaming would be considered theft.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Payndz posted:

None of this could possibly be a group of kids taking the piss out of their gullible dumb-as-poo poo reactionary teachers, of course.
https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1671491043181641728?t=HuTtCOFnsTeMrX0qjZpo6g&s=19

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah I think it says more about the brains of the adults that they hear a kid wanting to be a dinosaur and have an existential crisis about it.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

Yeah I think it says more about the brains of the adults that they hear a kid wanting to be a dinosaur and have an existential crisis about it.
This is just my own half-formed theory, but I'm starting to think it's similar to how a lot of the transphobes act. I think the transphobe can't understand or relate to the idea of someone's identity being different to what the transphobe has ingrained as 'normal' or 'acceptable' in their mind, and instead of accepting the new idea of identity they've been presented with, they see it as an attempt to trick them, and think it's big and clever to point out they will not be fooled.

I think there's a part of them that thinks if they do respect trans people's entities then they'll be mocked for having been 'tricked,' which is further reinforced by their endless tweets 'correcting' trans people's gender on twitter.

Like I think the existential crisis comes from that fear that they are being 'forced' to call the kid a cat/ dinosaur and other people will laugh at them for being weak and forced to do it; therefore anyone who does it is weak and being forced and so they must be laughed at. And then they get defensive and butthurt because mean trans activists made fun of them on twitter, and made them look like the bad guys.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
NORMAN! The school children are identifying as cormorants now Norman! One of them is identifying as Nibiru, the hypothetical planet that could destroy the housing market! No I know none of it's real Norman but what if it was, what if it was like when Milli Vanilli turned all the white children black. No it isn't racialist to say that Norman, David Starkey said it on the news, and he's a historian!

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


This is actually, genuinely, incredibly good news: https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1671901159269728256

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
LOL Miliband sucking up to Starmer not going well then. Banned from speaking at Glastonbury for something to do with Just Stop Oil.

https://twitter.com/revoltinghippie/status/1671881784789987328?s=20

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Turns out that no-one was identifying as a cat, when one student defended gender identity another student said "if you identify as a cat or a carrot you are insane".

https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1671844313607593985?t=C5wzUfX6ncE3et7yl9GdaQ&s=19

Transphobes are stupid lying dipshits, who knew.

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jun 22, 2023

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Keir Stalin strikes again.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
Maybe just do it anyway? (Speak at Glastonbury that is)

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Bobby Deluxe posted:

This is just my own half-formed theory, but I'm starting to think it's similar to how a lot of the transphobes act. I think the transphobe can't understand or relate to the idea of someone's identity being different to what the transphobe has ingrained as 'normal' or 'acceptable' in their mind, and instead of accepting the new idea of identity they've been presented with, they see it as an attempt to trick them, and think it's big and clever to point out they will not be fooled.

I think there's a part of them that thinks if they do respect trans people's entities then they'll be mocked for having been 'tricked,' which is further reinforced by their endless tweets 'correcting' trans people's gender on twitter.

Like I think the existential crisis comes from that fear that they are being 'forced' to call the kid a cat/ dinosaur and other people will laugh at them for being weak and forced to do it; therefore anyone who does it is weak and being forced and so they must be laughed at. And then they get defensive and butthurt because mean trans activists made fun of them on twitter, and made them look like the bad guys.

I can't say I really understand it at all to be honest. Like what difference does it make to me if a kid wants to be a cat? Other people's identities are like, a them thing. It's as irrelevant to me as what colour underpants they're wearing. The only way I need to interact with it at all is that we have a thing where we're sort of expected to guess what words to use to describe a person by what they're wearing which, like, the solution there is figuring out new social habits to make that work, and maybe that expectation is just kind of dumb anyway.

To have a complete loving meltdown like these people do over one particular social custom being shown to be kinda crap unless everyone dresses one of two ways which is just stupid even if everyone is the gender they were assigned at birth, I don't get it. There is obviously something so hosed with their brains that I don't have any credible explanation for why they're like that.

They definitely seem horribly insecure about some social thing, so yeah you might be onto something with the whole "everyone will laugh at me for going along with it" angle but just... how do you loving live like that for long enough to make it to fortysomething when you have your meltdown in the papers about it?

Unless you're literally a time travelling victorian aristocrat or something and spend three hours every morning tying your tie in the appropriate knot for that day in the social calendar lest you be snubbed in the gentleman's club... Like nobody IRL actually lives like that nowadays?

Or is this the bourgeois morality I have heard so much about? Rich people are just like that because they don't have the necessity of getting along with people.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Don't give him an excuse to purge another Jewish person from the Labour Party imo.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




domhal posted:

Maybe just do it anyway? (Speak at Glastonbury that is)

And risk the career MP gravy train for something as trivial as “having principles”?

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






When I was a kid I wanted to be Superman but unfortunately at that time Tony Blair's neo-Marxist far left pro-woke agenda ZaNu LieBore was in charge and I didn't receive the treatment I desperately needed.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Presumably it’s the “down” button they had installed in that sub

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Gorn Myson posted:

When I was a kid I wanted to be Superman but unfortunately at that time Tony Blair's neo-Marxist far left pro-woke agenda ZaNu LieBore was in charge and I didn't receive the treatment I desperately needed.

When I was in my 30s I wanted to be Xena Warrior Princess but sadly my knee was knackered from a motorcycle injury so I couldn't do the high-kicking moves.
Also didn't look particularly fetching in the leather corset outfit.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


"Debris" has been found in the search area, so yeah, they 100% imploded when their signal went dead. Hopefully it was quick, it's a horrible way to go.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/1671876256281903105?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

"Debris" has been found in the search area, so yeah, they 100% imploded when their signal went dead. Hopefully it was quick, it's a horrible way to go.

Crazy to find debris at the site of the biggest ocean-liner wreck in history

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Or is this the bourgeois morality I have heard so much about? Rich people are just like that because they don't have the necessity of getting along with people.
I think it's petty bourgeois morality, like the reason that so many small business tyrants in certain parts of the US went so hard for Trump and Qanon was because they were members of White Evangelical churches, which you have to be to be a successful small business tyrant in those places.

That involves by necessity focusing on the family (while donating to Focus on the Family) and believing in whatever dark forces are today's enemy, not because you necessarily internally believe them, but because they reify your status within the hierarchy of the community.

This kinda ties into the idea that under patriarchy, you're the property of everyone above you, in exchange for owning everyone below you, which is of course important also for small business tyranny.

People just being able to identify out of their place in the natural order is a horrorshow as far as these people are concerned, because it ruins the whole thing.

Honest to imply that they haven't been a bit clever for the past 13 years.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

"Debris" has been found in the search area, so yeah, they 100% imploded when their signal went dead. Hopefully it was quick, it's a horrible way to go.

My traffic accident wasn't terminal (obviously?) but i had enough time to think "oh bugger" and nothing else. :shrug:

Hope theirs was quicker at least.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

People just being able to identify out of their place in the natural order is a horrorshow as far as these people are concerned, because it ruins the whole thing.

I guess the rub here is that you can't do this, because the "natural order" will be imposed on you by society whether you want it or not. Although yes alternative identities usually come with accompanying "micro societies" I guess I'd call them, like LGBT groups who will pointedly not be a dickhead to you and probably also generally be a lot more open to anarchic ideas about interpersonal relationships overall. And you can, especially with the internet and age demographics/attitudes to lgbt rights, spend quite a lot of time socializing predominantly with people in these little utopian socities, rather than the older and more hegemonic ones that are hostile to them.

So the real threat is people wanting to make a better society that might supercede the old one that the shitheads are attached to, and the individual people pushing the boundaries of personal identity are just the easist targets.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

"Debris" has been found in the search area, so yeah, they 100% imploded when their signal went dead. Hopefully it was quick, it's a horrible way to go.

Yeah I was reading about different ways it could go if there was a breach in the vessel and it implodes apparently the pressure of the water at great depth will slice you in half. Apparently happened to a Russian submariner. Can't find link now.
Let alone that Byford Dolphin incident mentioned previously ITT.

Re the debris field. I assume they have detail on the preexisting field? I visited the Titanic expo in Belfast a couple of years ago and seemed well mapped.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jun 22, 2023

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I guess the rub here is that you can't do this, because the "natural order" will be imposed on you by society whether you want it or not. Although yes alternative identities usually come with accompanying "micro societies" I guess I'd call them, like LGBT groups who will pointedly not be a dickhead to you and probably also generally be a lot more open to anarchic ideas about interpersonal relationships overall. And you can, especially with the internet and age demographics/attitudes to lgbt rights, spend quite a lot of time socializing predominantly with people in these little utopian socities, rather than the older and more hegemonic ones that are hostile to them.

So the real threat is people wanting to make a better society that might supercede the old one that the shitheads are attached to, and the individual people pushing the boundaries of personal identity are just the easist targets.
You can if you become a significant enough minority and can convince wider society to accept that. Which is part and parcel of why groups who think that there is some naturally occurring order (whether from gods or basic biology or whatever) are constantly terrified of the secret Georges Soros changing that, or the government providing any protections, or the media showing a picture of a wrong flag.)

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

TRANSGENDERS ARE PERVERTING YOUR CHILDREN BY TELLING THEM TO BE GIRL T REXES
NEW "T REGINA" FAD SPREADING THROUGH TICK TOCK ENCOURAGING BELIEF THAT KING OF THE DINOSAURS COULD BE FEMALE

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Tesseraction posted:

Don't give him an excuse to purge another Jewish person from the Labour Party imo.

After he aided and abetted the anti-Semitic smear campaign against Corbyn?

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


OwlFancier posted:

I can't say I really understand it at all to be honest. Like what difference does it make to me if a kid wants to be a cat? Other people's identities are like, a them thing. It's as irrelevant to me as what colour underpants they're wearing. The only way I need to interact with it at all is that we have a thing where we're sort of expected to guess what words to use to describe a person by what they're wearing which, like, the solution there is figuring out new social habits to make that work, and maybe that expectation is just kind of dumb anyway.

To have a complete loving meltdown like these people do over one particular social custom being shown to be kinda crap unless everyone dresses one of two ways which is just stupid even if everyone is the gender they were assigned at birth, I don't get it. There is obviously something so hosed with their brains that I don't have any credible explanation for why they're like that.

They definitely seem horribly insecure about some social thing, so yeah you might be onto something with the whole "everyone will laugh at me for going along with it" angle but just... how do you loving live like that for long enough to make it to fortysomething when you have your meltdown in the papers about it?

Unless you're literally a time travelling victorian aristocrat or something and spend three hours every morning tying your tie in the appropriate knot for that day in the social calendar lest you be snubbed in the gentleman's club... Like nobody IRL actually lives like that nowadays?

Or is this the bourgeois morality I have heard so much about? Rich people are just like that because they don't have the necessity of getting along with people.

You know how kids in school take the piss out of anyone who's not like them? Like how at least 50% of kids are like this at that age?

Imagine those kid's brains never actually progressed intellectually and now they have a platform. That's really all there is to it.

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
Lol my in-laws told me they talked to an English woman who mentioned the “indentifying as a cat” thing on our current vacation. My wife and I assumed it was some dumb fb boomer bait, so colour me surprised it turned out to be a mainstream news story.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

MeinPanzer posted:

Lol my in-laws told me they talked to an English woman who mentioned the “indentifying as a cat” thing on our current vacation. My wife and I assumed it was some dumb fb boomer bait, so colour me surprised it turned out to be a mainstream news story.

The difference between things on facebook to rile up your elderly tory relatives and mainstream news is vanishingly slim.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jedit posted:

After he aided and abetted the anti-Semitic smear campaign against Corbyn?

Did he? I thought he was relatively pro-Corbyn without necessarily hugging the fella?

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yeah I was reading about different ways it could go if there was a breach in the vessel and it implodes apparently the pressure of the water at great depth will slice you in half. Apparently happened to a Russian submariner. Can't find link now.
Let alone that Byford Dolphin incident mentioned previously ITT.

Re the debris field. I assume they have detail on the preexisting field? I visited the Titanic expo in Belfast a couple of years ago and seemed well mapped.

You more or less get an implosion and an explosion due to pressure at the same time, don't think "sliced in half"... think "blender". :yikes:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Good ol' polytron.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




smellmycheese posted:

Presumably it’s the “down” button they had installed in that sub



Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Is this more of a button or a lever?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you do that the cleric shuts down.

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Tesseraction posted:

Did he? I thought he was relatively pro-Corbyn without necessarily hugging the fella?

Let us know how question time goes tonight from an audience members perspective.

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