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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days  Did the Navy know about this? Holy poo poo what was the point of not telling anyone for 3 days?
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days how many layers of  are we into now?
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days lmao how loving deep does the rabbit hole go? actually n/m I know how deep it's roughly 4km below sea level.
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Again I don't think it's necessary to link to Oil London's Twitter, where he's also advertising his upcoming book about how transitioning is child abuse. Like I get that it's a very concise explanation of how an implosion would kill someone so fast they'd never even notice it, but maybe just copy and paraphrase it like you're copying someone's homework? edit: I'm a dumbass who couldn't read his name right but I don't have enough respect to fix it MiracleFlare fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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can we use those rescue boats to save some refugees and poo poo it's what the billionaires would have wanted and i know this because i am a psychic who can speak with the dead
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days there were no audio comms with the sub, how would they hear the implosion? highly doubt that sound would propagate (audibly to somebody on a ship or something) to the surface from 13k ft if they mean they were just listening from a boat
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zedprime posted:It's hitting temperatures and pressures that it's probably not worth talking about chemical reactions as trivial as oxygen that's reacting with people as much as the contents of the sub hitting temperatures liberating them of all of their chemical bonds and condensing their plasma into ocean salts and simple aminos moments later. goddamn
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Instantaneous  Typical dynamic pressure history for an underwater implosion event. "crump"
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holefoods posted:even if it did work, how much advance warning could it feasibly give? Aren't these alarms just meant to give enough of a warning in larger vessels for one last desperate scramble to try and seal off the ruptured compartments with bulkhead hatches, so that there's enough unflooded breathing space while you wait for the rescue? What good are they when you're occupying the only space between two welded bathtubs with no way to escape?
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yeah stop posting olli london twitters thanks
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TulliusCicero posted:
Lol just wasted the time of all those rescue teams.
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Blitter posted:
I... I.. don't know how to read this. 
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zedprime posted:It's hitting temperatures and pressures that it's probably not worth talking about chemical reactions as trivial as oxygen that's reacting with people as much as the contents of the sub hitting temperatures liberating them of all of their chemical bonds and condensing their plasma into ocean salts and simple aminos moments later. I really don't think that's the case. The air is super-hot, but it takes time for heat to conduct from the air into a solid object. You can put your hand into a hot oven and your hand isn't instantly cooked. Wave your hand through an open flame, the fire is even hotter than the oven but in the shorter time you're still fine. Get compressed in an imploding sub... even hotter, but it's over in microseconds. Like, do that compression cylinder demo video youtube above with a bit of beef fat instead of cotton fluff and I very much doubt it lights on fire. The physical impact and rupture is gonna leave everything very trashed, so still no recoverable bodies. But they weren't vaporized.
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Splorange posted:how many layers of - $250,000 a ticket - A cheap Bluetooth Logitech controller prone to disconnects and failures. - Tiny bolts holding the hatch in place. - Using carbon fiber for the hull and not titanium. - The acrylic porthole was only rated for 1,500 meters. - Firing (and suing!) the safety engineer for refusing to certify the sub. - Refusing to x-ray the carbon fiber after pressure testing. - On one of the excursions, one of the impellors was installed backward. They "fixed" it by using the controller at a 90-degree angle. - The CEO refused to hire industry experts and wanted "new innovative blood." - The CEO removed audio contact with the support vessel because it was too noisy. - The support vessel knew they imploded for three days without telling anyone. - PPP loan forgiveness. FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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 BREAKING NEWS the coastguard has sent pictures confirming body recovery
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smellmycheese posted:So the crew on the boat heard the noise of an implosion when they lost contact with groversub, but they’ve just let the media run with an oxygen countdown story for 3 days Yup. Of course they did
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Pretty sure the Navy knew. Wasn't there a ship capable of a theoretical rescue being held up in Europe?
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Klyith posted:I really don't think that's the case. I think it’s more the shell of the thing slamming into them at the speed of sound vaporized them more than the air
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Stubear St. Pierre posted:I really want to play an underwater Kerbal Space Program now https://store.steampowered.com/app/573090/Stormworks_Build_and_Rescue/
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ethanol posted:there were no audio comms with the sub, how would they hear the implosion? highly doubt that sound would propagate (audibly to somebody on a ship or something) to the surface from 13k ft if they mean they were just listening from a boat They imploded at 1,300 feet and that sound wave would absolutely be heard at those depths.
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:Aren't these alarms just meant to give enough of a warning in larger vessels for one last desperate scramble to try and seal off the ruptured compartments with bulkhead hatches, so that there's enough unflooded breathing space while you wait for the rescue? What good are they when you're occupying the only space between two welded bathtubs with no way to escape? there are no alarms like that on a normal sub. it's a complete joke to think you can monitor hull integrity like that. because everything important happens in milliseconds as explained. highly loaded up composite frames such as a aircraft are extensively tested and analyzed every 3 years using stuff like ultrasonics to find stress fractures, subsurface hairline cracks.. extremely small deformations a stress strain sensor would not pick up. This is very expensive and requires very knowledgeable people to do the work. I like to think of as paving a road, throwing down a single hair, paving over it, and then trying to detect it later. edit: don't quote me on the 3 years interval FlapYoJacks posted:They imploded at 1,300 feet and that sound wave would absolutely be heard at those depths. ethanol fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Exiro posted:Pretty sure the Navy knew. Wasn't there a ship capable of a theoretical rescue being held up in Europe? The rescue ship with the experienced crew and barometric chamber arrived on site this morning.
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I want to know if OceanGate is offering refunds for the death voyage or if they’re going to be like “lol buyer beware”
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SalTheBard posted:That probably would've been a nice thing to tell everyone you know...4 loving days ago. That would of put a lid on 4 days of content tho.
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TulliusCicero posted:
If true somebody is about to lose a lot of money. E: it's possible they knew but since it needed to be confirmed over hearsay the running story was they're just looking for them.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The rescue ship with the experienced crew and barometric chamber arrived on site this morning. Then we're back to this being even more stupid and wasteful then it already was. Thanks I must have missed that catching up.
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it's a great day to celebrate the start of summer and that you didn't pay $250,000 to get smooshed to death
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Klyith posted:I really don't think that's the case.
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OMFG FURRY posted:oh lol oceangate gonna get sued into oblivion you can't sue a dead man!
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Grey Cat posted:SIR SIR, will you be sending microscopes down to recover the individual point in space they were crammed into? given that they briefly experienced the temperature and pressure of the sun, just bring up some more of titanic’s coal and label each lump a person
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Witeldram posted:Lol @ the person in the press conference asking if they were gonna try recovering their bodies You could bargain with the crabs to give the indigestible parts back.
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Grey Cat posted:If true somebody is about to lose a lot of money. Again, I will reiterate that Oceangate's primary financial asset is in pieces at the bottom of the sea and their CEO has been forcibly disintegrated into the tides. Outside of the fees for this trip and the three or so others (which the funds from may not even exist since they apparently had to rebuild the hull due to it breaking at one point) that have been mentioned what can they even get out of suing? Also, the knowledge that the boat knew it imploded puts that tweet by the Oceangate exec in a new light. "I'm going to take a nap and I expect results from the government to bail us out of this or names will be named." comes off a lot more conniving in light of that knowledge, assuming they knew.
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