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Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Hobo Clown posted:

I'm stalling out in the mid-90s. I could either buy a pinned Thanos and try a new deck with him, or I could buy Spider-Ham and try to tech him into a few of my existing decks. Thoughts from the thread pros?

In my personal (aka trash) opinion, if you're trying to climb i don't think Thanos is doing much work in the current meta. I also don't think pig will help you that much there either unless you have found yourself surprised and/or losing a lot on t6.

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Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Quetzadilla posted:

In my personal (aka trash) opinion, if you're trying to climb i don't think Thanos is doing much work in the current meta. I also don't think pig will help you that much there either unless you have found yourself surprised and/or losing a lot on t6.

I went with Thanos and am currently 0-8 lol

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo

Red posted:

I had a Hulk in my hand and got HAM'd on a turn with Dark Dimension; Hulk's cost stayed at 7. Bug or intended?

Current behavior is that it just takes a snapshot of whatever the numbers are at the time and creates a pig with those numbers. Not a bug unless that's unintended behavior in the first place

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Red posted:

I had a Hulk in my hand and got HAM'd on a turn with Dark Dimension; Hulk's cost stayed at 7. Bug or intended?

Probably intended. You can see similar shenanigans if Elysium is active; since 6-costs now cost 5, their cost can be re-increased by Iceman. But if this happens and then Elysium is ruined, the card’s base cost will increase to 6, so the card will cost 7 in total!

Red
Apr 15, 2003

Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.
I'm an idiot, I meant Dream Dimension.

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New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

Hobo Clown posted:

I went with Thanos and am currently 0-8 lol

I bought Thanos as my first big bad back in the day when he was dominating, and while I got a few wins, I don't jive with the play style.

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Hobo Clown posted:

I went with Thanos and am currently 0-8 lol

Sorry bud. I don't have hit monkey or hevo for the control decks du jour but that seems like the actual way to climb these days.

I liked Thanos ongoing a lot while it worked so i don't regret that purchase but it gets absolutely dumpstered now.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




You can still get some milage out of Destory Thanos!

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?


Someone on Reddit suggested this deck and got their first infinite with it, so I thought I'd give it a spin. They used Silk rather than Jeff and I'm wondering if someone else would be preferable. I'm leaning towards Dazzler, Sentinel, or Mojo. Any suggestions?

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Aramoro posted:

You can still get some milage out of Destory Thanos!

Prove it. (please SD give me venom someday soon T_T)

E: hm i guess i COULD drop $20 on this variant bundle which would also give me enough gold to afford sand bae (ew) AND the BP bundle next month for maxxxx tokenssss.

Quetzadilla fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 22, 2023

Nikumatic
Feb 13, 2012

a fantastic machine made of meat

New Leaf posted:



Someone on Reddit suggested this deck and got their first infinite with it, so I thought I'd give it a spin. They used Silk rather than Jeff and I'm wondering if someone else would be preferable. I'm leaning towards Dazzler, Sentinel, or Mojo. Any suggestions?

Sentinel is still real solid for Sera and since this is a version not trying to drop priority (so you have a way to play dem Bones) is a decent enough tempo drop on two if you don’t have Medusa or Zabu. Mojo would also be good but does rely on your opponent filling lanes as well.

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

Nikumatic posted:

Sentinel is still real solid for Sera and since this is a version not trying to drop priority (so you have a way to play dem Bones) is a decent enough tempo drop on two if you don’t have Medusa or Zabu. Mojo would also be good but does rely on your opponent filling lanes as well.

I also considered Killmonger as a Kitty/Nebula defense, thoughts on that? You're right though, I'll slot Sentinel for now and see how it does!

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

New Leaf posted:

I also considered Killmonger as a Kitty/Nebula defense, thoughts on that? You're right though, I'll slot Sentinel for now and see how it does!

Km only works on kitty if you don't have priority so i don't think that fits well here. Would still work on nebula i guess but i don't see much of her.

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS
Best defense against Kitty is a turn 5 Wave, since most decks are trying to play as many cards as possible on turn 6. You can outright abandon your plan to play Wave, because it cripples their last turn.

Killmonger is way too hard to hit Kitty with. Since she leaves the board at the start of each turn, you have to not have priority for KM to hit her (hard to do when they often lose priority when Kitty returns to their hand), AND you have to guess correctly that they’re playing her that turn.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Quetzadilla posted:

Sorry bud. I don't have hit monkey or hevo for the control decks du jour but that seems like the actual way to climb these days.

I liked Thanos ongoing a lot while it worked so i don't regret that purchase but it gets absolutely dumpstered now.

I have Monkey & HE but those stopped working once I hit 94-95. I think I've lost about 20-25 in a row, dropping from 98 to 90 in 2 days. Completely tatters

This game bums me out more than pretty much anything else I play. Was hoping to hit Infinite at least once just to get over the need to climb but I'm probably just gonna delete it instead lol

Cattail Prophet
Apr 12, 2014

Hit infinite for the first time last night. :toot: Used Electro ramp for most of the climb past the 70s or so, with a bit of HE mixed in along the way.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

New Leaf posted:

I also considered Killmonger as a Kitty/Nebula defense, thoughts on that? You're right though, I'll slot Sentinel for now and see how it does!

I don't know how good a defense it is because of the aforementioned reasons, but Nova/Killmonger is a good addition to Sera flood decks either way. Your Nova would be getting you 8-10 stats consistently. You'd cut the Iceman to fit in the Nova.

Dekk
Aug 31, 2001
I went from 93 to 100 in an hour or so after adding Spider Ham to the sweaty High Evo Lockjaw deck. There are just too many good Ham targets that totally heck your opponent over, along with being great Lockjaw food. It's really tough to lose with this thing if you retreat when you don't draw.

Concurred
Apr 23, 2003

My team got swept out of the playoffs, and all I got was this avatar and red text

Dekk posted:

I went from 93 to 100 in an hour or so after adding Spider Ham to the sweaty High Evo Lockjaw deck. There are just too many good Ham targets that totally heck your opponent over, along with being great Lockjaw food. It's really tough to lose with this thing if you retreat when you don't draw.



Sera Control starting with Sera in your hand only to get immediately pigged

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?

Concurred posted:

Sera Control starting with Sera in your hand only to get immediately pigged

Yeah I'm sadly starting to run into that haha.. Maybe the pig is a little more destructive than I gave it credit for.

Dekk
Aug 31, 2001

Concurred posted:

Sera Control starting with Sera in your hand only to get immediately pigged

Literally what happened to me that inspired me to buy him, hah.

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Dekk posted:

I went from 93 to 100 in an hour or so after adding Spider Ham to the sweaty High Evo Lockjaw deck. There are just too many good Ham targets that totally heck your opponent over, along with being great Lockjaw food. It's really tough to lose with this thing if you retreat when you don't draw.



Haha okay i might buy pig for this. Nerfs incoming tomorrow if i do.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Quetzadilla posted:

Haha okay i might buy pig for this. Nerfs incoming tomorrow if i do.

iirc OTA is today

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

Sandwolf posted:

iirc OTA is today

Oh right it's Thursday. Well i bought it and it's sufficiently stupid even though I don't have hevo so it's mbakus time to shine.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
I just want my gold and credits from the weekend missions mishap

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
OTA day, AKA the day I move cards around my various Cerebro decks.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




New Leaf posted:

Yeah I'm sadly starting to run into that haha.. Maybe the pig is a little more destructive than I gave it credit for.

In a lot of situations Spider-Ham is as good as leech. Part of the power of Leech was stopping a good turn 6 play. Like Doom, Zola, Ultron, Galactus etc. He hits all of those for 4 less energy and scouts your opponents deck.

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

quote:

June 22nd - Balance Updates
Hope everyone has been enjoying the new Conquest mode! We’ve got a suite of balance
updates for you this week before the first Infinite Conquest starts next week: one nerf affecting a
wide range of decks, and three buffs. Let’s get right to it!

Doctor Doom
● [Old] 6/5 - On Reveal: Add a 5-Power DoomBot to each other location.
● [New] 6/5 - On Reveal: Add a 4-Power DoomBot to each other location.
Doctor Doom is our most played 6-Cost card by a large margin, and for good reason. His ability
to spread power and bypass restrictive locations makes him an excellent card in many past and
current top decks like Lockdown, Electro Ramp, and Lockjaw. In fact, he's so good at contesting
"closed" locations that he actually encourages decks to be built around doing so more often. By
taking 1 Power off his DoomBots, we’re looking to tone down his overall strength and improve
the diversity among our 6-Cost cards in top decks. While we’re sad to lose the symmetry
between Doctor Doom and his DoomBots, we hope this will bring his decks more in line with the
rest of the competition–besides, Doom's tougher than a Doombot.

Red Skull
● [Old] 5/12 - Ongoing: Enemy cards at this location have +1 Power.
● [New] 5/14 - Ongoing: Enemy cards at this location have +2 Power.
Red Skull terrorized our meta for a while in a strong partnership with Shuri. Now that Shuri has
been nerfed, we felt it was a good time to restore Red Skull to a higher value. Red Skull is a
more interesting card with more base Power and a more detrimental Ongoing effect. This has
helped him perform well in decks with cards like Enchantress, Sauron, and of course Shuri. We
hope powering up Red Skull will give these decks a boost and create more meta diversity. Sorry,
Cerebro.

Nimrod
● [Old] 5/5 - When this is destroyed, add a copy to each other location.
● [New] 5/6 - When this is destroyed, add a copy to each other location.
This one’s been on our wishlist for a while, but we’d been wary of it for fear of making Galactus
more popular as a consequence, since that was the most popular Nimrod deck. Now that we’ve
shipped our Galactus nerf, we’re confident in giving Nimrod a small boost that will hopefully
make him more promising fodder for Forge, Shuri, and Venom. We've also got some upcoming
cards we expect to reward destroying cards even more, so stay tuned for those synergies!.

Nick Fury
● [Old] 5/7 - On Reveal: Add 3 random 6-Cost cards to your hand.
● [New] 4/5 - On Reveal: Add 3 random 6-Cost cards to your hand.
Nick Fury has never quite found a place to shine. As a 5-Cost that grants 6-Cost cards, there’s
not much time to take advantage of the cards he spawns. By bumping him down to a 4-Cost,
effects like Titan and Quinjet give players the opportunity to play two of his reinforcements on
turns 5 and 6. Plus, it gives Agent Coulson the ability to give Nick a call when he's in a jam and
could use some avenging. We’re excited to see what you’ll assemble with Nick Fury’s new stats!

Bonus OTA: KrakoNAH
With this update, we’re also taking Krakoa out of the game to be redesigned at a future date.
Turn 5s everywhere rejoice!

Thanks for stopping by! Please note that we will not have our regular biweekly OTA on July 6th
in observance of our studio’s summer shutdown, so our next update will be our full-sized patch
currently scheduled for July 11th. Happy Snapping, and good luck in your Infinite Conquests!

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?
Nooo, my boy Dooom... :doom:

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
post-script

quote:

Pig
● [Old] 4/0 – “oink!”
● [New] 0/0 – “oink!”
Spider-Ham’s token wasn’t meant to consider its own base cost to be 4, and that has some interactions with cards and locations like Zabu and Asteroid M that just aren’t intuitive to play with. We’re adjusting it to 0-Cost to avoid those interactions.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!
DOOM nerf sucks so bad. I don’t know if I want to do this anymore.

Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
...did red skull need tuning? Now he basically requires additional cards to be useful

E: yeah doom i mean, i guess they have the data but maybe if people use him to win restrictive locations you shouldn't have so loving many? At least it's a 6-drop that can slot into other shells so it's more versatile than an move deck or something where you just luck into having the advantage when those locations show up.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

flatluigi posted:

post-script

Dang, Magneto can't grab them anymore. Guess it makes sense he can't touch pork.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

Quetzadilla posted:

...did red skull need tuning? Now he basically requires additional cards to be useful

They basically took him back to his original state, which was fine and interesting before Shuri hosed it all up.

My C5 deck weeps.

Devo
Jul 9, 2001

:siren:Caught Cubs Posting:siren:

Devo posted:

I want Casino SHIELD decks to be a thing. They're just way too slow for not enough payoff. Let my Nick Fury breathe some air!

Also, Second Dinner reads this thread

give me more credits SD

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Oh God, Invisible Woman, Nick Cage, MODOK, Hela...

victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."
Huh that's almost the exact nerf I expected when I thought about what might be coming. I thought they might buff Doom himself to 6/6 to compensate though.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
Sweet so you get to play two of nick furys 6 costs with quinjet

New Leaf
Jul 24, 2013

Dragon Balls? Are they tasty?


I feel kinda bad for doing this..

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Quetzadilla
Jun 6, 2005

A PARTICULARLY GHOULISH SHITPOSTER FOR NEOLIBERLISM AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
It makes me so happy when mbaku jumps out. Someday he'll even win!

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