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Ok Comboomer posted:automatic Corollas have shipped with CVTs for like a decade at this point I didn't know or care exactly what kind of slushbox it had, all automatic transmission ICE cars feel like driving a Model T when coming from an EV.
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Indiana_Krom posted:This. Thats probably another reason why they make a lot more sense if you have garage parking - you can disable Sentry mode when the car detects you are home, but if you're parking on the street you may not want to do that and so have to live with the battery drain. Its not huge but over a few days or a week it adds up
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Nitrousoxide posted:It's possible to get an outlet or charger installed streetside, though it will probably be expensive. There is a tax credit you can get for 30% of the cost (up to $1,000) for the installation. Chevy is kicking in ~$1000 in EVSE installation plus $250 permit credit last I looked, too, with the purchase of a Bolt or EUV. They did a custom job that was slightly over in my case, but shrugged and approved the extra hundred or so. Electric companies, county air monitoring, etc also may have incentives people can take advantage of.
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Jun 22, 2023 02:41
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drhankmccoyphd posted:If I was going to consider stepping up beyond the mid-range price point of 40-50k, where I'm looking at Model 3, Polestar2, Id.4 etc, and into the 60-100k range what should I be looking at? I feel like specs wise the Model S is in the sweet spot given the inventory discounts right now around 85k-ish. The Lyriq looks ok in the 60-70k range but honestly it just strikes me as another boring crossover. I could also look at sportier stuff like the porsche Taycan but I'd be heavily sacrificing range... I would like to suggest the Kia EV6 GT because I bought one a few weeks ago and it's so good that I won't stop telling everyone. It does hurt you on range at ~250 (ignore epa) but you can get one for under 60k out the door plus the 800v architecture is a nice way to offset slightly shorter range with significantly shorter stops. It's a thoughtfully designed car inside and out strapped to an insane powertrain with some really aggressive programming. It's like if there was an electric R63 AMG successor, this would be it.
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Jun 22, 2023 02:53
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Elviscat posted:I didn't know or care exactly what kind of slushbox it had, all automatic transmission ICE cars feel like driving a Model T when coming from an EV. it matters because the effect you’re describing is pretty much totally due to the cvt’s rubber banding good torque converter automatics are DCT-fast without the jerkiness or gear hunting, tho I’m not going to pretend they’re close to EV torque
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Jun 22, 2023 03:51
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I wouldn’t wish EV ownership without reliable charging at home/work even against my enemies. EVs are supposed to be more convenient than ICE ones, IMO. In parts of SoCal you could get away without home/office charging.
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Jun 22, 2023 06:45
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The only way I’d do it is if I had free charging at work. There’s some free level two chargers around here but I do not want to go to the grocery store or the casino for 7 hours a week and fast charging all the time would be annoying and expensive and bad for the battery.
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Jymmybob posted:I would like to suggest the Kia EV6 GT because I bought one a few weeks ago and it's so good that I won't stop telling everyone. It does hurt you on range at ~250 (ignore epa) but you can get one for under 60k out the door plus the 800v architecture is a nice way to offset slightly shorter range with significantly shorter stops. It's a thoughtfully designed car inside and out strapped to an insane powertrain with some really aggressive programming. It's like if there was an electric R63 AMG successor, this would be it. There's an new EV6 GT at a dealer nearby for under 60K. I am tempted to throw caution to the wind. Or I could keep waiting for GM to make more than one Lyriq a month. Or Hyundai to make more than one GV60 a month. Or for the Fisker Ocean to... Exist.
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Failson posted:There's an new EV6 GT at a dealer nearby for under 60K. I am tempted to throw caution to the wind. Hnnngh if the EV6 GT had larger rear trunk space I would be all over that poo poo. I would go with that over the GV60 just on looks alone too as I imagine they are pretty similar to drive. GV60 probably has a slightly nicer interior though, and the Genesis service is a bonus too.
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bird with big dick posted:The only way I’d do it is if I had free charging at work. There’s some free level two chargers around here but I do not want to go to the grocery store or the casino for 7 hours a week and fast charging all the time would be annoying and expensive and bad for the battery. Just get a Chevy Bolt, where fast charging won't hurt the battery because it's way too slow to do so.
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Failson posted:There's an new EV6 GT at a dealer nearby for under 60K. I am tempted to throw caution to the wind. Is it a “GT” or a “GT-Line” because they’re not even remotely the same thing.
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priznat posted:Hnnngh if the EV6 GT had larger rear trunk space I would be all over that poo poo. I would go with that over the GV60 just on looks alone too as I imagine they are pretty similar to drive. GV60 probably has a slightly nicer interior though, and the Genesis service is a bonus too. EV6 has bigger motors and 100hp on the GV60 performance even in boost mode. It's a legit crazy machine. I originally compared it to my old SRT Jeep but after a couple weeks with it, it's much closer to our 700hp 911 in power delivery and attitude. Comfortable and fairly luxurious to cruise around in, angriest car on the road when pushed. My wife joked that if someone saw our 911 and wanted to race we'd show up in the EV6 instead. I feel that this article is the most accurate review after having spent some time with it. Also the interfaces/features are still really good. I tried lane centering and auto cruise for the first time today and didn't have to touch the wheel with more than a finger for 5 miles of winding country roads in the rain. Works great in tandem with the pretty big HUD.
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Jymmybob posted:EV6 has bigger motors and 100hp on the GV60 performance even in boost mode. It's a legit crazy machine. I originally compared it to my old SRT Jeep but after a couple weeks with it, it's much closer to our 700hp 911 in power delivery and attitude. Comfortable and fairly luxurious to cruise around in, angriest car on the road when pushed. My wife joked that if someone saw our 911 and wanted to race we'd show up in the EV6 instead. I feel that this article is the most accurate review after having spent some time with it. Yeah I really wish I could justify one, much like the Stinger before it! Looks like a lot of fun. I've really looked around and the only car that hits that combo of performance and practicality with some Ev economy as well is the Volvo v70 recharge, but I'd love to have something to cross shop it with while I wait for mine to be produced 
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Elviscat posted:Just get a Chevy Bolt, where fast charging won't hurt the battery because it's way too slow to do so. Let's talk about the Nissan LEAF, friend.
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Jun 23, 2023 02:04
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Has Tesla fixed the issues with the Model 3 for those that live in a place with weather? Does opening the truck lid still have rain/snow slide into the trunk? Does snow/slush still get routed into the undercarriage/rear valance?
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Jun 23, 2023 16:52
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MrLogan posted:Does opening the trunk lid still have rain/snow slide into the trunk? God drat this is annoying.
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Jun 23, 2023 17:03
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MrLogan posted:Has Tesla fixed the issues with the Model 3 for those that live in a place with weather? What does your heart tell you?
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MrLogan posted:Has Tesla fixed the issues with the Model 3 for those that live in a place with weather? I think this was fixed at some point, I recall reading something about a redesigned seal area for the trunk. I have a 2021 Model 3 and haven't had any major issues with it here in the Chicago area. Nota bene: I park in a garage, so I'm not opening the trunk in bad weather as often as someone parking in the open. In other Tesla news, the rumor mill seems abuzz with predictions that cybertruck production is starting, with a delivery event planned for the end of Q3. https://twitter.com/greggertruck/status/1672277272810909696?s=20
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I say this as a long time Tesla owner and liker: This is gonna be entertaining as gently caress.
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MrLogan posted:Has Tesla fixed the issues with the Model 3 for those that live in a place with weather? Is there a sedan out there where when you open the trunk with snow/slush on the back window it doesn't slide into the trunk? I've had that happen on basically every sedan I've ever seen or driven. At least with the Tesla 3/Y/S it is relatively easy to slide all the snow/slush off first because the slope from the window is preserved all the way down the trunk lid so it will slide off and on to the ground easily (as long as you don't have a spoiler anyway).
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Jun 23, 2023 22:46
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At this point is it even newsworthy when another manufacturer says they're flirting with NACS? Anyway, Hyundai is. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor-day-ima-ev-platform-tesla-nacs-port
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Honestly, I think my advice at this point is hold off if you can on buying a non-Tesla EV until 2025 when most manufacturers are going to be on NACS. You're gonna feel real silly with Chademo v2 in 2027.
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There is also this: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/washington-state-plans-mandate-teslas-charging-plug-official-2023-06-23/
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Wizard of the Deep posted:Honestly, I think my advice at this point is hold off if you can on buying a non-Tesla EV until 2025 when most manufacturers are going to be on NACS. Don't they all have adapters?
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Lowness 72 posted:Don't they all have adapters? Yea, but that's annoying.
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Lowness 72 posted:Don't they all have adapters? That might not work with all existing cars at all future chargers. CCS is a documented standard, but that doesn't mean everyone has implemented it the same way. It may be that some charger yet to be made will up and refuse to work with some model of 2023 CCS1 car. Hopefully this won't actually happen, but it's for sure a possibility, and one reason why folks might want to hold off.
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I can still DCFC my Leaf at like 6 chargers in driving distance of it. ChaDeMo has been dead for awhile now, not buying an EV because it has a CCS charger would be loving silly, it would be at least a decade for them to be phased out, and so far cross-compatibility between NACS and CCS is increasing, not decreasing. CCS and Chademo have been wholly incompatible forever AFAIK. Except for you, guy who's going to tell me they  only buy 1 brand new car every 25 years, you go ahead and wait to buy a car with CCS and NACS.
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Someone telling to not buy cars due to a lack of a specific plug which only requires a mechanical connector to work is fun when where are still J1773 chargers around that have no compatible cars in existence.
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CYBRTRK is going to revolutionize the light and medium duty truck landscape. Ford and GM will probably be on the verge of declaring bankruptcy within a few years because of it.
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Elviscat posted:Except for you, guy who's going to tell me they That guy would be my father. E: to be clear, I'm not advising anyone wait for the adapter thing to settle. I'm explaining my dad's thought process about it. cruft fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jun 24, 2023 |
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If you are going to be keeping a CCS equipped vehicle for 25 years there will probably be kits for retrofitting it with a NACS port at some point in the near future. It will probably cost 4-6 times as much as just using an adapter though.
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We’re all buying EVs here buying the more expensive option is what we already do.
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Make sure you keep the adapter and sell it on ebay when you sell your car.
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That does beg the question for people in the market for home chargers. Do you just hedge bets and get something with NACS at this point?
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drhankmccoyphd posted:That does beg the question for people in the market for home chargers. Do you just hedge bets and get something with NACS at this point? When I looked at options a few months ago, a Tesla wall charger plus TeslaTap was the cheapest way to get J1772. So, yeah, that would be my advice.
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drhankmccoyphd posted:That does beg the question for people in the market for home chargers. Do you just hedge bets and get something with NACS at this point? Does your car have a NACS port? Then get a NACS charger. Does it have something else? Then get that other thing.
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QuarkJets posted:Does your car have a NACS port? Then get a NACS charger. Does it have something else? Then get that other thing. The only reason why you would get NACS EVSE when you have a J1772 vehicle is this: cruft posted:When I looked at options a few months ago, a Tesla wall charger plus TeslaTap was the cheapest way to get J1772.
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The Phinney Ridge Classic Car show is today in Seattle, and they have a bunch of cool electric cars and conversions along with lots of other cars. Along with a bunch of tricked out Teslas, and other productions stuff they had some very cool conversions and unique electrics:           This one is my favorite - I know nothing about it other than it looks cool, and must have cost like... a lot to fix up and convert   
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cruft posted:That guy would be my father. I really don't think it'll be practical to keep any EV for 25 years - something expensive is going to fail well before that point
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Mechanically they should age about the same as any other vehicle, maybe a little better just because they have less heat to deal with. Like no hot exhaust that rusts out or head gaskets/seals and other stuff like that. But the battery is definitely not going to be the same at 25 years even if EV packs are more well cared for than pretty much any lithium battery in small electronics ever could be.
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