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Watching James Cameron commenting and he's not being diplomatic. Points out that more time has passed between the first deep submergence vehicles of this type and today than between Kitty Hawk and the first 747 and yet there's never been a major incident or loss of life; it's a "mature art." He thinks the certification process is the gold standard. For those who might have missed it, the owner of the Titan blew off certification. My 12 year old is hilarious, I brought up that the, "World's greatest pioneer," had commented on the incident (see the James Cameron South Park episode for reference, it's brilliant) and he said he'd be thrilled to die knowing that James Cameron would be on national TV commenting on it.
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Am I understanding correctly that neither OceanGate nor the passengers' families are going to be stuck with a bill for this colossal waste of resources? That's maybe the most unamerican thing ever, if you cause a helicopter rescue here because you were a dumbass, you're loving paying for it, and this is ultracommunist Europe I'm talking about.
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Jun 23, 2023 10:15
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gschmidl posted:Am I understanding correctly that neither OceanGate nor the passengers' families are going to be stuck with a bill for this colossal waste of resources? That's maybe the most unamerican thing ever, if you cause a helicopter rescue here because you were a dumbass, you're loving paying for it, and this is ultracommunist Europe I'm talking about. Billionaires don't follow normal people rules.
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Jun 23, 2023 10:40
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Paladine_PSoT posted:Herein referred to as "a 'plosion". The submarine 'ploded. We're not sure which direction, but we definitely heard it 'plode. 
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Jun 23, 2023 10:45
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Potrzebie posted:Billionaires don't follow normal people rules. They're also not charging non-billionaires.
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Jun 23, 2023 11:06
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even if i die over the course of a 20 year wasting illness i want my last words recorded as "i have information leading to the arrest of hillary cl..."
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Jun 23, 2023 11:22
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gschmidl posted:Am I understanding correctly that neither OceanGate nor the passengers' families are going to be stuck with a bill for this colossal waste of resources? That's maybe the most unamerican thing ever, if you cause a helicopter rescue here because you were a dumbass, you're loving paying for it, and this is ultracommunist Europe I'm talking about. That’s where the tax payers come in, bud. We pay for the billionaires’ stupidity.
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gschmidl posted:Am I understanding correctly that neither OceanGate nor the passengers' families are going to be stuck with a bill for this colossal waste of resources? That's maybe the most unamerican thing ever, if you cause a helicopter rescue here because you were a dumbass, you're loving paying for it, and this is ultracommunist Europe I'm talking about. yeah funny thing, communist helleurope often thinks really stupid things about what does or doesn't happen in these united states because it's funner to be baffled online source: dual citizen, am from both SSR europe and murrkkka
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Jun 23, 2023 12:20
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Watching James Cameron commenting and he's not being diplomatic. Points out that more time has passed between the first deep submergence vehicles of this type and today than between Kitty Hawk and the first 747 and yet there's never been a major incident or loss of life; it's a "mature art." He thinks the certification process is the gold standard. For those who might have missed it, the owner of the Titan blew off certification. uhh you sure you want your 12 year old doomposting so early in the game
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Jun 23, 2023 12:23
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Alan Smithee posted:uhh you sure you want your 12 year old doomposting so early in the game Right? He might end up becoming a goon at this rate.
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Jun 23, 2023 12:35
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Sure, maybe your kid is going to be all manner of messed up but their shitpost game is on point.
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Jun 23, 2023 13:21
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we cannot allow a shitpost gap we need to ender game the kids into online mentats
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Jun 23, 2023 13:33
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Alan Smithee posted:uhh you sure you want your 12 year old doomposting so early in the game He wasn't making fun of the people who died, just saying it would be cool (and in seriousness, he's laughing as he said it) to have James Cameron talk about your death. So he's perfectly healthy and balanced. 
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Jun 23, 2023 13:43
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:yeah funny thing, communist helleurope often thinks really stupid things about what does or doesn't happen in these united states because it's funner to be baffled online What’s the really stupid thing in this instance?
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Jun 23, 2023 13:54
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Lodo posted:What’s the really stupid thing in this instance? If you charge for SAR, who is going to be most affected by that? 1) Dumbass rich people who get in trouble 2) A normal person who gets screwed over and has to call for help and is now on the hook for way too much money 3) The person who waited too long to call because they were worried about the bill and is now dead You could say charge it to the company, but now you have some commercial fishermen being trained to wait as long as possible because of 3) above, and now they're dead. SAR and healthcare should both be socialized for the common good.
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ranbo das posted:If you charge for SAR, who is going to be most affected by that? How about SAR is free until you have a net worth above $1,000,000. At which point you don't get rescued and your assets are distributed to SAR and poverty reduction charities. But seriously, yeah agreed. I had an idea for people who get rescued because they're lost; no fee except making them buy a spot tracker/device and a years subscription so their dumb rear end doesn't need SAR again. But it wouldn't work because dumb gonna dumb. Outrail fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Jun 23, 2023 15:21
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Is it really a significant problem? There aren't a lot of billionaires getting lost in subs and I'd rather not mess up and overcomplicate things over something so rare. I don't actually know how much these operations cost though. I'm sure it's a ton if you bill by the hour for every person and piece of hardware involved, but in practice those people are being paid anyway, the hardware exists anyway and is not built for this one job, and they get to do some real-world exercise. I wonder what the additional costs over normal operations would look like.
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Jun 23, 2023 16:38
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Crap, not only did I not get it, I proved mr. Ho’s point by asking as well! I have been educated
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Jun 23, 2023 16:40
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Dark Off posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world...post_type=share oh my god     this poo poo is gold his son's fear of whales and giant squid loving saved him hahahahahahahaha "helicopters are safer" no non-military sub injuries *cough* kim wall *cough*
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Jun 23, 2023 16:49
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Alan Smithee posted:oh my god What kind of dad is that derisive of his own son and then shares it on social media? What an rear end in a top hat.
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Eric Cantonese posted:What kind of dad is that derisive of his own son and then shares it on social media? What an rear end in a top hat. one who was saved by his stupidity
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Jun 23, 2023 17:28
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Alan Smithee posted:one who was saved by his stupidity To be fair, those are some pretty stupid things to worry about when there were far more realistic safety threats to be terrified of.
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I've done some research and I have concerns about this expedition
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Jun 23, 2023 17:38
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Nope, it was, drumroll... ...of course, the Jews. *sigh* https://www.mediamatters.org/rumble/stew-peters-rothschilds-conspiracy-theory-oceangate-sub-was-sunk-hide-truth-it-wasnt-iceberg In case it needed to be said, I do not in fact think the Jews sank the Titanic or the Titan.
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Jun 23, 2023 17:42
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Alan Smithee posted:his son's fear of whales and giant squid loving saved him hahahahahahahaha As someone with a lifelong fear of squid and octopus, I'm glad to see a sensible phobia saving lives.
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Jun 23, 2023 19:37
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the ocean is perfectly safe 99.99% of all deaths occur on land dummies
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Jun 23, 2023 19:46
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Alan Smithee posted:oh my god I wonder if a squid knocked a gasket loose and triggered the implosion.
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Jun 23, 2023 19:59
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I feel like military sub casualties should count a little bit
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There Bias Two posted:I wonder if a squid knocked a gasket loose and triggered the implosion. Reporter: "If the Navy had arrived earlier, could they have defeated the squid before it triggered the implosion?"
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That expedition ended basically like the Sopranos finale.
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Alan Smithee posted:oh my god His kid's "stupid" concerns saved him from being turned into apple sauce.
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Zesty posted:His kid's "stupid" concerns saved him from being turned into apple sauce. Not even close to a lie. At that pressure and depth the implosion would happen literally faster than you would perceive it. You're not even biology at that point, you're physics.
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Goddamn, Rush was double wrong. No injuries in 35 years? Yeah, for all those other operators who follow safety standards and industry best practices and take them seriously. All that stuff he ignored. Safer than mundane stuff like helicopter flights or scuba diving? No, not even for those responsible operators. If you've got one activity that's been done for millions upon millions of times, against one that's done... I don't know how many deep sea dives have been done, but I know it's orders of magnitude fewer, the thing that's essentially still at an experimental stage will essentially always be more dangerous, simply due to a comparative lack of accumulated experience. This reminds me of Jared Isaacman, flying on the Dragon spacecraft, saying it's probably safer than the training flights they had on aircraft. That's just not understanding the risk. Dragon is no death trap submarine, it's probably as safe as the state of the art in spaceflight can get, which means... not very. Certainly nowhere near any kind of aircraft. Simply because we have mountains more flight experience with planes than with spacecraft and we have found way more problems and the state of the art in safety is immensely further along. Elukka fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jun 24, 2023 |
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tbh even if it was true I'm not sure that "as safe as flying in a helicopter" is a ringing endorsement they're basically the submarines of the air except they plode the other way
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"Imploded Ross Kemp" would be a pretty good username.
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drat someone at the BBC hates him, that is not a flattering picture lol
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is that a before or after implosion pic
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HopperUK posted:drat someone at the BBC hates him, that is not a flattering picture lol rude that's just his face
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hemale in pain posted:rude that's just his face one of those "removed the stocking post bank robbery and face stayed that way" visages
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